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Jason Alexander’s amazing gun rant ("ban assault weapons")
Salon.com ^ | Jason Alexander

Posted on 07/23/2012 9:57:19 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed

What purpose does an AR-15 serve to a sportsman that a more standard hunting rifle does not serve? Let’s see – does it fire more rounds without reload? Yes. Does it fire farther and more accurately? Yes. Does it accommodate a more lethal payload? Yes. So basically, the purpose of an assault style weapon is to kill more stuff, more fully, faster and from further away. To achieve maximum lethality....

These people believe that the US government is eventually going to go street by street and enslave our citizens. Now as long as that is only happening to liberals, homosexuals and democrats – no problem. But if they try it with anyone else – it’s going to be arms-ageddon and these committed, God-fearing, brave souls will then use their military-esque arsenal to show the forces of our corrupt government whats-what. These people think they meet the definition of a “militia”. They don’t. At least not the constitutional one. And, if it should actually come to such an unthinkable reality, these people believe they would win. That’s why they have to “take our country back”. From who? From anyone who doesn’t think like them or see the world like them. They hold the only truth, everyone else is dangerous. Ever meet a terrorist that doesn’t believe that? Just asking.

Then there are the folks who write that if everyone in Colorado had a weapon, this maniac would have been stopped. Perhaps. But I do believe that the element of surprise, tear gas and head to toe kevlar protection might have given him a distinct edge. Not only that, but a crowd of people firing away in a chaotic arena without training or planning – I tend to think that scenario could produce even more victims....

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1 posted on 07/23/2012 9:57:28 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba
What purpose does an AR-15 serve to a sportsman that a more standard hunting rifle does not serve? Let’s see – does it fire more rounds without reload? Yes. Does it fire farther and more accurately? Yes. Does it accommodate a more lethal payload? Yes. So basically, the purpose of an assault style weapon is to kill more stuff, more fully, faster and from further away. To achieve maximum lethality....

Not one correct assertion.

2 posted on 07/23/2012 10:03:20 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Beelzebubba

They all need to shut up and act.


3 posted on 07/23/2012 10:04:42 AM PDT by Internet Walnut
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To: Beelzebubba

Of the twenty something murders in Chicago this month, I wonder how many we’re done with “assault” weapons? These idiots think every AR15 is an automatic machine gun.

And the stabbings in Chcago this year have exceeded all of last year already. Are they banning knifes?

Simply ignorant and just stupid.

Why can’t we all just get along?


4 posted on 07/23/2012 10:06:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: MileHi

Ugh! Where do you start? I mean Jason Alexander is completely ignorant as to firearms and the Constitution’s 2nd Ammendment. Can’t even parse the English language correctly.


5 posted on 07/23/2012 10:06:08 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Beelzebubba

So when did Jason Alexander become a firearms expert?

He obviously doesn’t understand the constitution and the bill of rights.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 10:06:17 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: MileHi

Correct, not one right assertion. An AR15 is a low powered weapon, does not hold more rounds than any other magazine fed rifle has half the range and stopping power of a classic 30-06.


7 posted on 07/23/2012 10:06:44 AM PDT by jimbobfoster
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To: smokingfrog

It is of no use to argue with ideologues and oppressors. I’m done trying to reason with people like this. Come and take them.


8 posted on 07/23/2012 10:08:44 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Beelzebubba
Does it fire farther and more accurately? Yes.

Not necessarily.

Does it accommodate a more lethal payload? Yes.

No. In some states it's not even legal for deer hunting.

9 posted on 07/23/2012 10:08:49 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Beelzebubba
What purpose does an AR-15 serve to a sportsman that a more standard hunting rifle does not serve?

There is no sporting purpose requirement to the Second Amendment, which was first and foremost written to deter tyranny in government.

Let’s see – does it fire more rounds without reload? Yes. Does it fire farther and more accurately? Yes.

False, hunting rifles are more powerful and typically more accurate. It isn't even legal to hunt deer with a .223 in many states. (Including Colorado, for example.)

Does it accommodate a more lethal payload? Yes.

False again, the intermediate-power .223 was designed to maim more than to kill, while hunting bullets were designed to kill. Maiming soldiers of enemy armies take more of them out of action than killing them does, because of all the personnel needed to accomplish the rescue, evac, give medical treatment, etc.

This is just anti-gun disinformation. (As is typical.)

10 posted on 07/23/2012 10:08:51 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: MileHi

You didn’t know our military snipers use AR-15’s?


11 posted on 07/23/2012 10:09:09 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Beelzebubba

its funny listening to all these hollywood morons scream about gun control over the Colorado shooting without taking any responsibility themselves....the shooter did refer to himself as “the Joker” and reportedly died his hair to look like the “Joker”...

so how about Alexander- where’s the blame on Hollywood for this???


12 posted on 07/23/2012 10:10:27 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: jimbobfoster

I have a magazine I got a while back that isn’t much larger than a regular 30 rounder and holds 60 rounds (Surefire Mag)...not a drum canister, just a thicker regular mag. You won’t get this in a deer rifle model.


13 posted on 07/23/2012 10:10:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Internet Walnut
They all need to shut up and act

Actually, they need to shut up and shut up.

HEY JASON: how about this, Porky.

Let's ban EVERY SINGLE GUN IN AMERICA.

So, instead, this guy blocks one emergency exit with his car, blocks the other with something else heavy, then uses gasoline at the two entrances.

Everyone's dead from fire. Instead of 13 dead and 50 something injured, now we have 120 DEAD.

What progress that would be.

Unless your next idea is to ban gasoline, you freakin MORON???

14 posted on 07/23/2012 10:11:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Vermont Lt

15 posted on 07/23/2012 10:11:19 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Beelzebubba

“What purpose does an AR-15 serve to a sportsman that a more standard hunting rifle does not serve? Let’s see – does it fire more rounds without reload? Yes. Does it fire farther and more accurately? Yes. Does it accommodate a more lethal payload? Yes. So basically, the purpose of an assault style weapon is to kill more stuff, more fully, faster and from further away. To achieve maximum lethality.... “

It does not fire more loads without reloading.
It does not fire farther and more accurately. Many rifles, including black powder rifles, shoot farther with accuracy.
It is a utilitysprot rifle good for small vermin. Although some use it for deer hunting that is a bit of a stretch.

Everything he says here is garbage.


16 posted on 07/23/2012 10:13:06 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Beelzebubba
These people believe that the US government is eventually going to go street by street and enslave our citizens.

Hey there looser, Obama promised it when he said he wanted a civil army as strong and as well equipped as the regular army. Get back on your meds buddy. Hitler did it in Germany, Mussolini in Italy, Mao in China Stalin in the USSR etc. etc etc. People are free only when the government fears them not the other way around.

17 posted on 07/23/2012 10:13:18 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Beelzebubba
ALL weapons are assault weapons. That's why they are called 'weapons'....................
18 posted on 07/23/2012 10:15:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Beelzebubba

“they”-the liberals..are all seething angry about these weapons.

Those guns...and the Second Amendment..are all that stands between us and their perverted egos....striving to “perfect” socialism/communism


19 posted on 07/23/2012 10:17:43 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: smokingfrog
So when did Jason Alexander become a firearms expert?

When he lost relevance as an actor.

LOOK AT ME!!!!!! LOOK AT ME!!!!!!! HEY, WHY AREN'T YOU LOOKING AT ME ANYMORE???????

20 posted on 07/23/2012 10:17:50 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Beelzebubba

Shrinkage


21 posted on 07/23/2012 10:17:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Beelzebubba

Hey Costanza! When did you stop doing the opposite of what your instincts tell you to do? Go back to doing it.


22 posted on 07/23/2012 10:19:02 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once a land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: buffaloguy

The M-16, military half-brother to the civilian AR-15, was not designed to kill. It’s design is to injure and maim. The theory is that an injured enemy will take out the effectiveness of two others to care for him..................


23 posted on 07/23/2012 10:19:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Beelzebubba

So much for his Guest spot on Sons of Guns.

Hey Jason, if you want my AR-15, come on over and try to take it.

Oh that’s right, you just Support and Vote for people that will use the power of the State to take them. Of course that is the real reason we own the Guns in the first place.


24 posted on 07/23/2012 10:22:52 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: Beelzebubba

The gun control crowd has latched on to the AR-15....because it sounds so ‘machine gunesque’.

They seem to have forgotten the use of a shotgun...and by Alexander’s own false litmus test (use for hunting and sport), I can think of no other weapon that meets this criteria more. And, quite frankly, most hardened gun control advocates will ‘allow’ a shotgun.

Alexander also seems to forget that this maniac made bombs and put them in his apartment...despite federal laws against making bombs. No matter what the laws are, nuts like this will find a way.


25 posted on 07/23/2012 10:22:59 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Beelzebubba
An AR-15 fires farther and more accurately than a hunting rifle?

How stupid IS this guy? Or maybe I should say, ignorant.

26 posted on 07/23/2012 10:24:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Beelzebubba

Jason:
2010 homicides: 12,272

Not 100,000 you moron.


27 posted on 07/23/2012 10:24:35 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: jimbobfoster
does not hold more rounds than any other magazine fed rifle

I fully support 2nd Amendment rights. But playing Devil's Advocate for a moment, critics will seize on the perp's 100-round magazine for the AR to support their gun-grab argument. I own a shotgun and several rifles but have been away from active shooting sports for some years. Are magazines of that capacity available for magazine-fed semi-auto sporting rifles? I simply don't know but rather doubt it.

28 posted on 07/23/2012 10:27:11 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Beelzebubba

Jason Alexander was born in New Jersey and has an estimated net worth of $75 million dollars

29 posted on 07/23/2012 10:28:16 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Beelzebubba
That’s why they have to “take our country back”. From who?

From libtard tyrants who want to establish a system of statism and socialism.

30 posted on 07/23/2012 10:30:02 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Lazamataz

Not gasoline, they would just make “fire” illegal.

Problem solved.


31 posted on 07/23/2012 10:32:13 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: Red Badger

“The M-16, military half-brother to the civilian AR-15, was not designed to kill. It’s design is to injure and maim. The theory is that an injured enemy will take out the effectiveness of two others to care for him..................”

I would rather face a guy with a an AR-15 than a guy with a Remington 700 chambered in .308. Or any other caliber for that matter.

The number I have heard is that a wounded soldier requires 7 people, a dead soldier none.


32 posted on 07/23/2012 10:32:32 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
So when did Jason Alexander become a firearms expert?

Jason Alexander - Still stuck on stupid after all these years.

33 posted on 07/23/2012 10:33:39 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Beelzebubba

Slip back into obscurity Jason, when we want any crap out of you we’ll squeeze your head.


34 posted on 07/23/2012 10:34:21 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: MileHi
What purpose does an AR-15 serve to a sportsman that a more standard hunting rifle does not serve?

We don't need to justify constitutional rights.

Most especially not to poorly informed, half crazy, hypocritical left wingers.

And Not All Of Them Work For The Government


35 posted on 07/23/2012 10:34:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Bernard Marx
100 round "drum magazines" are available, but they're expensive, often not very reliable, and hanging all that extra weight from your rifle is going to make it less maneuverable. In this case, it's probably a good thing the shooter used one.
36 posted on 07/23/2012 10:35:08 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Beelzebubba
Mr. Alexander, in addition to your exposition on the 2nd Amenedment....
I would respectfully refer you to the following [recent] SCOTUS decisions:

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District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)
Was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that:

The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes in federal enclaves, such as self-defense within the home.

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McDonald v. Chicago, 130 S. Ct. 3020 (2010)
Was a landmark decision of the Supreme Court of the United States that determined whether the Second Amendment applies to the individual states.

The Court held that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms" protected by the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and applies to the states.

The decision cleared up the uncertainty left in the wake of District of Columbia v. Heller as to the scope of gun rights in regard to the states.

***********

Soooo...... Mr. A....

Take all the immediate emotion and sorrow surrounding the Aurora "Batman massacre" out of the larger construct of legal argument...

Let's talk it over.

37 posted on 07/23/2012 10:40:41 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: buffaloguy

I was counting the two immediate enemy that would have to carry him. If you include medics and other medical and support personnel, yeah, I can see 7 or more........either way, the enemy is diminished in effectiveness.......


38 posted on 07/23/2012 10:43:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Beelzebubba

Mr. Alexander has good reason for anxiety about his “gun.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cUNNKzj_Nc


39 posted on 07/23/2012 10:43:53 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Red Badger

“ALL weapons are assault weapons. That’s why they are called ‘weapons’”

Anything can be considered a weapon, an SUV, stick, rock, frying pan, screwdriver, hammer, pencil or the common blunt
object. If used as weapon to “assault”, then yes any thing becomes an assault weapon.

So tired of morons classifying certain guns as assault weapon, a gun is an inanimate object and does not think or perform actions.

The thing I still do not understand, how did the media get all the info on the alleged shooter so fast? We have a POTUS and we still question his background, yet crickets! No guns are not the problem, the media, stupid celebrities and evil people are the problem.


40 posted on 07/23/2012 10:47:52 AM PDT by Fully Awake DAV (Navy Vet when homosexuality was not tolerated)
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To: Beelzebubba
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41 posted on 07/23/2012 10:48:50 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Bernard Marx
I fully support 2nd Amendment rights. But playing Devil's Advocate for a moment, critics will seize on the perp's 100-round magazine for the AR to support their gun-grab argument

A Marksman doesn't need a 100 round spray and pray magazine.

But there is no reason a citizen shouldn't be able to buy one.

Remember: "shall not be infringed".


42 posted on 07/23/2012 10:49:32 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Beelzebubba

Ban Jason Alexander.


43 posted on 07/23/2012 10:49:32 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Fully Awake DAV

Dude needs to be slapped upside the head with an assault carp.


44 posted on 07/23/2012 10:51:54 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Vermont Lt

You may have forgotten that we need to eliminate automobiles as that would eliminate Drive-by shootings! :^}


45 posted on 07/23/2012 10:51:59 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: Iron Munro
And Not All Of Them Work For The Government

But a good number of them do.

46 posted on 07/23/2012 10:52:19 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: smokingfrog

I saw a picture of the AR he used posted here earlier.

It didn’t have a drum magazine. Looked like a typical 30 round to me. I think some Lib “Journalist” not using the brains God gave him, made it up for dramatic effect.


47 posted on 07/23/2012 10:53:09 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: Beelzebubba
If the patrons of the theater had been armed, the most likely scenario is not a hail of gunfire from them. The most likely scenario is that the shooter wouldn't have tried this in the first place.
48 posted on 07/23/2012 10:54:52 AM PDT by RonF
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To: smokingfrog

There are 100 round magazines available for rifles other than the AR15, but I would personally not use a magazine over 30 rounds. If I wanted dependability probably 20 rounds or less. Because of the weight, 10 rounds is good in a .308.


49 posted on 07/23/2012 10:55:03 AM PDT by jimbobfoster
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To: Red Badger

“I was counting the two immediate enemy that would have to carry him. If you include medics and other medical and support personnel, yeah, I can see 7 or more........either way, the enemy is diminished in effectiveness.......”

One of the defenses we have developed quite well is that we have made it extremely expensive to go to war against us. It is out of reach of most countries GDPs. This is a good example.


50 posted on 07/23/2012 10:56:15 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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