Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

James Holmes makes first court appearance after Colorado shooting [Video]
LA Times ^

Posted on 07/23/2012 12:44:06 PM PDT by scottjewell

James Holmes makes court appearance in Colorado theater shooting

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS:
Appears very odd in his first court appearance, but then what can you expect?
1 posted on 07/23/2012 12:44:12 PM PDT by scottjewell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

People say he has a mental illness. I think he’s on drugs.


2 posted on 07/23/2012 12:51:18 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

Looks like he’ll go for the insanity defense. I wonder if that was part of his plan all along......


3 posted on 07/23/2012 12:53:35 PM PDT by jeffc (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell
He will suffer severe punishment. A trial in a year or two. If convicted likely sentenced will be 'Death by Old Age', consisting of 3 squares, medical and legal services, numerous appeals. All of which will be paid for in part by his victims and relatives for the next 75 years.

That should discourage others!

4 posted on 07/23/2012 12:57:05 PM PDT by Voltage
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jeffc

Wonder what he thinks he has accomplished.


5 posted on 07/23/2012 12:57:58 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

6 posted on 07/23/2012 1:07:23 PM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Voltage

Execcute the piece of crap.


7 posted on 07/23/2012 1:10:07 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (It's hurricane season! Yay!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: fatnotlazy

He seems like he is close to passing out. I wonder if they have him on heavy psychotropic drugs? Well, I hope it was worth if for him; certainly was not for his innocent victims.


8 posted on 07/23/2012 1:12:47 PM PDT by scottjewell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Jyotishi

Not a hell of a lot. And he will have decades to ponder it...


9 posted on 07/23/2012 1:14:52 PM PDT by scottjewell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
How about turn him into a live organ donor.
10 posted on 07/23/2012 1:17:17 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Wizdum

The orange hair must have given him some kind of altered identity boost. Short lived though; he looks like he has come back to reality with a jolt.


11 posted on 07/23/2012 1:17:23 PM PDT by scottjewell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

He mailed a suspicious package to the University of Colorado, admissions office. It was/is being handled by authorities this morning. (according to people on the scene)

This little parasite just keeps on...It will be a big deal if he did not alert authorities to this after his capture.


12 posted on 07/23/2012 1:19:39 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jeffc

Good luck with that insanity defense. He showed a clear thought pattern in planning intricate details, compiling his arsenal and protective gear and executing it. He also trip wired his apartment with lethal explosives.

He demonstrates a clear pattern of rational thought and intent. His mind is clearly wrong, but the records clearly demonstrates that he did not act in a manner consistent with a diagnosis of insanity.

I’m curious to see what the blood toxicology reports show.


13 posted on 07/23/2012 1:21:17 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (GHWB gave us Souter. W gave us Roberts. Can we risk Jeb in the White House?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Jyotishi
Wonder what he thinks he has accomplished.

He's probably thinking "My handlers said it would never come to this."

14 posted on 07/23/2012 1:21:43 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Triple

Yes, just as with his booby-trapped apartment. He wanted to make a big statement. I wonder what his point is, though?


15 posted on 07/23/2012 1:22:49 PM PDT by scottjewell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

Makes you sort of wonder about the guys who make it through the program, get their PhDs and MDs, and now practice, until they get short changed by ObamaCare. Something to think about while in that waiting room all alone....


16 posted on 07/23/2012 1:27:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: fatnotlazy

...”People say he has a mental illness. I think he’s on drugs.”...

I think he was highly sedated.


17 posted on 07/23/2012 1:29:11 PM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

They will keep him doped up throughout the trial. They do not want this guy to appear normal.

Guilty by insanity.


18 posted on 07/23/2012 1:31:55 PM PDT by crz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

Acute schizophrenia is when a previously healthy person, generally a young adult, shows increasingly odd behavior over a fairly short period of time of perhaps a few weeks.

Holmes may fit into the diagnostic pattern of rapid onset.

A noticeable symptom is that cognitive abilities suddenly and severely drop. He was doing very well in school and suddenly his grades plummeted.

Often there is a stress related “trigger” to a violent outburst. Holmes had just broken up with his girlfriend, and was about to be evicted from his university provided apartment, at the end of a 30 day grace period after dropping out of the graduate program.

He was also deeply involved in MMORPG role playing games, like World of Warcraft. While it is unlikely this caused his condition or made it worse, it might have been much easier for his mind to grasp “that reality” in a schizophrenic state. Simpler rules than real life.


19 posted on 07/23/2012 1:33:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Excellent analysis. I think you are probably right on all counts. He had a rapid onset of schizophrenic symptoms and triggers caused a complete psychotic break. If only he had had a period of hospitalization and medication before acting out. It is sad all the way around. He was young and talented and his life is over, and so are the lives of innocent people and children who were in the wrong place at the wrong time.


20 posted on 07/23/2012 1:43:40 PM PDT by scottjewell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

IMO, it’s a ploy similar to mob guy Vincent ‘The Chin’ Gigante.


21 posted on 07/23/2012 1:53:50 PM PDT by duckman (Dr Ben Carlson: Vision Not Division.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Voltage
***That should discourage others! ***

Just like the sentence Charlie Manson got 40 years ago has made California a safe place to live. Sarc/off

22 posted on 07/23/2012 1:54:40 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Drill Thrawl

Wonder if they have found a copy of The Catcher in the Rye in his apartment?


23 posted on 07/23/2012 1:54:40 PM PDT by Deepest South
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Deepest South
Wonder if they have found a copy of The Catcher in the Rye in his apartment?

Hmmm, interesting. I would bet you that he does have a copy of "[Composite] Dreams From My Father"

24 posted on 07/23/2012 1:57:16 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: jazzlite

Perhaps. But to me he looks like he’s been ingesting controlled substances for some time.


25 posted on 07/23/2012 2:09:49 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: jeffc

>>Looks like he’ll go for the insanity defense. I wonder if that was part of his plan all along......<<

I believe you are exactly correct.


26 posted on 07/23/2012 2:23:35 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

Crazy, is a person who thinks he is a frog.

Not crazy, is a person who kills 12 people.


27 posted on 07/23/2012 2:27:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Just curious; what would you say is the difference in a person who enjoys murdering in cold blood in virtual reality and one who carries through with the actual act?


28 posted on 07/23/2012 2:47:39 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell
I watched the hearing, he was NOT there. He is off in his own world and whatever happened to him looks devastatingly apparent.

I predict he will not do one day of prison time, but spend the rest of his life in a mental ward.

29 posted on 07/23/2012 3:08:53 PM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr
“Makes you sort of wonder about the guys who make it through the program, get their PhDs and MDs, and now practice, until they get short changed by ObamaCare. Something to think about while in that waiting room all alone....”

This guy was not a medical student. He was a neuroscience graduate student. Very different. That's not to say that there are no ‘out there’ M.D.s, but he was not studying medicine.

30 posted on 07/23/2012 3:09:45 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Voltage

He could be put in a cell with Charles Manson - the two of them together for the rest of their lives... (or until one of them kills the other) would save a bundle of taxpayer money...


31 posted on 07/23/2012 3:55:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: scottjewell

I was watching him on TV a little while ago and it looks to me like he hasn’t had much, if any, sleep since Fri. Something tells me that boy hasn’t been allowed a lot of rest.

It’s possible they’ve sedated him since he was being an arse, spitting on the cops and such.


32 posted on 07/23/2012 3:56:22 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr
...guys who make it through the program, get their PhDs and MDs, and now practice, until they get short changed by ObamaCare. Something to think about while in that waiting room all alone....

If everyone in Hollywood wasn't a liberal, I'd say you had a nice little movie there...

33 posted on 07/23/2012 4:06:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

He appears to be open to demonic possession: barely in control of his person after 36 chemical-free hours. At his age he should be energetic, something. He’s just a curtain in a window.


34 posted on 07/23/2012 4:11:58 PM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Aleya2Fairlie

Lots of differences.

I’m reminded of a legal argument about pornography, in which someone drew a simple stick figure, with a line for a body, four more lines for arms and legs, and a circle for a head.

As such, quite legal. But then, if you say that the same stick figure is of an underage girl who is naked, it is technically illegal, because it is a “depiction” of a child.

In the case of a violent video game, depictions of murder are just that. Nobody and nothing is murdered, just electrons are rearranged in different patterns on a computer screen, maybe with sound effects.

Take the old computer game of Pac-Man. Would it become violent and grotesque if someone describes the dots the Pac-Man was eating as “babies”, and the “ghosts” as “rapists”?

While a connection has been drawn between a psychopath or sociopath harming real animals when they are young, there has never been any serious evidence that EC comic books, rock and roll music, Warner Brothers cartoons, or video games have any ability to make someone dangerous who was not originally dangerous.


35 posted on 07/23/2012 5:33:51 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Deepest South

How many copies?


36 posted on 07/23/2012 8:43:06 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I would have tended to agree with you a decade or so ago. However, the desensitization of society to all manner of violence and perversion seems to have taken its toll on our country and our youth.I’m wondering how far it will go.

The appetite for such fare always demands more and better ( or in this case, worse.


37 posted on 07/24/2012 4:32:11 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Aleya2Fairlie

This can lead to some pretty surprising conclusions.

For example, just one thing may be effectively exterminating slave-descended black Americans in the US. It strongly inhibits reproduction during the best years for having children, as well as causing horrifically high abortion rates after pregnancy. Those children that are born it likewise inclines strongly to criminal behavior. And black homicide rates are very high. Added up, it is demographically devastating.

All caused by just one thing: having sex outside of marriage. That’s all it takes to precipitate a disaster.

No need for pornography or violent entertainment. Just forsaking the morality of monogamous marriage. For most people it is amazing how something not just approved of and endorsed in our culture, but actively encouraged, could be so terribly destructive.

To have sex out of marriage, minimal wisdom suggests that birth control should be used. For black women, long term birth control is preferred, slashing six month long blocks from the (effectively) only 20 year window for reproduction.

Those women who do get pregnant commonly get abortions. 38,000 black women each year in NYC alone. Planned Parenthood specifically targets them to kill their children.

70% of those children allowed to be born are illegitimate. And statistics show that illegitimate children are 60% more likely to become criminal offenders. A child of a married couple, raised by both, is on a “success” track in life. Those raised by one parent are by default, in a “survival” track. Criminality is survival.

And such children are often homicidal of other blacks, and often victims of homicide by their black peers.

National demographics conceal the decline of slave descended blacks by adding ever increasing numbers of immigrant blacks. Even the immigrants are aware of the bad culture of s-d blacks and avoid it. One such immigrant black referred to s-d blacks as “living as animals”.

But my point is that, in all of this, pornography and violent entertainment are not needed. If they deserve credit, it is for further encouraging self destructive behavior. Making a bad situation worse.


38 posted on 07/24/2012 5:25:16 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I must agee with what you have said. But with the increasing promiscuity in the American White population, how long can it be before ancestry will be untraceable and unknowable, leading to the gross effects of inbreeding.

God’s laws are indeed for our benefit. We, as a nation have probably fast tracked our downfall by allowing them to be ignored. That is the fatal flaw in this “Great Experiment.”


39 posted on 07/24/2012 5:42:02 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson