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Moore: 'Doesn't Trayvon Martin Have the Right to Kill Zimmerman If Zimmerman Is Stalking Him?'
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Posted on 07/25/2012 8:17:38 AM PDT by chessplayer

"Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?"

This question was actually asked Tuesday on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight by schlockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore during a discussion about gun laws in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colorado (video follows with transcript and commentary):

MICHAEL MOORE: Can I say something about that? About the Trayvon Martin thing? Let me put it this way. Let's say George Zimmerman’s right when he says Trayvon Martin tried to kill him. Alright. But it was George Zimmerman who was told by the police to quit stalking this boy. And he was the one who was committing the infraction against the law by disobeying the police and going after Trayvon Martin. Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?


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1 posted on 07/25/2012 8:17:45 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

We can question all day long, but the only ones who will make that determination are the jury. The rest of us can discuss it until the end of time but it does not matter. All that matters is what the jury ends up saying.


2 posted on 07/25/2012 8:22:07 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: chessplayer

This is why libs are against gun ownership. They would be killing everyone for everything (as they have throughout history).


3 posted on 07/25/2012 8:22:17 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: chessplayer

Moore should be asked if he thinks the executives of General Motors should have the right to kill him, for stalking them?

Granted, had they done this, it would have saved our nation much bad taste from “Jabba the Filmmaker.”


4 posted on 07/25/2012 8:24:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Hmmm, the fat must be clogging Moore's ear's. I listened to the 911 call and never heard the term “stalk” or “stalking” used or the police tell Zimmerman that he was breaking the law or ordering him not to follow Martin. The only thing I remember hearing was a 911 operator, NOT the police, tell Zimmerman “You don't need to do that.” When he said he was following Martin. That's not exactly an order, If I tell my boss I'm going to work late on a project and he says “You don't need to do that.” It certainly sounds to me like he is telling me that I can if I want, but I don't have to, not ordering me under no certain terms not to.
5 posted on 07/25/2012 8:26:20 AM PDT by apillar
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To: chessplayer

The guy’s a complete and utter dingelheimer. He would have had a right to use lethal force to protect himself had Zimmerman attacked him, but that obviously wasn’t the case.


6 posted on 07/25/2012 8:27:38 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

But think how many bullets those GM executives would have needed.

Do they even make magazines that size?


7 posted on 07/25/2012 8:30:18 AM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. Don’t choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: chessplayer
“Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?”

Good question, so many of the defenders of Trayvon Martin say YES, that's street law.

8 posted on 07/25/2012 8:30:38 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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Mr. Gun Control is against private gun ownership, but not people killing people. Wonderful.


9 posted on 07/25/2012 8:33:36 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: chessplayer

PM is CNN’s BOR


10 posted on 07/25/2012 8:33:39 AM PDT by tiger-one
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To: chessplayer

Maybe its just me, but I get the feeling Michael Moore is stalking me.

Just sayin.


11 posted on 07/25/2012 8:33:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: chessplayer

I listened to him about 5 seconds last night. That was all I could take without throwing something through my TV.


12 posted on 07/25/2012 8:34:19 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: chessplayer

Mr. Moron, stalking is a crime that occurs over an extended period of time, and it is not equivalent to following a suspicious person at all.

Furthermore, the act of stalking someone does not directly place their life in imminent danger, as bashing a person head into concrete repeatedly DOES.

So, no, the thug Martin would not have had the right to shoot Zimmerman.


13 posted on 07/25/2012 8:34:26 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2001convSVT

NO! The police dispatcher’s SUGGESTION is merely that. Zimmerman had absolutely no legal obligation to follow the dispatcher’s suggestion.

Dispatchers are not deputized law enforcers, and that’s likely to come up in the trial when it gets under way.


14 posted on 07/25/2012 8:35:11 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: napscoordinator

Actually, I think we can fully accept that a neighborhood watchman who is looking out for the neighborhood is not a fair target to be killed. I would consider that concept to be settled.


15 posted on 07/25/2012 8:36:24 AM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: chessplayer

Just more evidence that liberals are all stoopid imbeciles.


16 posted on 07/25/2012 8:37:12 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: apillar
I listened to the 911 call and never heard the term “stalk” or “stalking” used or the police tell Zimmerman that...

911 operators are not police, so it doesn't matter what they tell you.

17 posted on 07/25/2012 8:37:49 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rarestia
I worked 911 trbls for Bell and visited many 911 call centers over many years.I used to listen to some of the calls and the questions these "console operators" asked were pretty lame and wasted valuble minutes.Many of the “console operators” weren't to swift.
18 posted on 07/25/2012 8:41:31 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: chessplayer

Libreal mindset:

Black can murder whites for the most minor reason.

Whites should never defend themselves.


20 posted on 07/25/2012 8:42:37 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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