Skip to comments.Moore: 'Doesn't Trayvon Martin Have the Right to Kill Zimmerman If Zimmerman Is Stalking Him?'
Posted on 07/25/2012 8:17:38 AM PDT by chessplayer
"Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?"
This question was actually asked Tuesday on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight by schlockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore during a discussion about gun laws in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colorado (video follows with transcript and commentary):
MICHAEL MOORE: Can I say something about that? About the Trayvon Martin thing? Let me put it this way. Let's say George Zimmermans right when he says Trayvon Martin tried to kill him. Alright. But it was George Zimmerman who was told by the police to quit stalking this boy. And he was the one who was committing the infraction against the law by disobeying the police and going after Trayvon Martin. Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?
We can question all day long, but the only ones who will make that determination are the jury. The rest of us can discuss it until the end of time but it does not matter. All that matters is what the jury ends up saying.
This is why libs are against gun ownership. They would be killing everyone for everything (as they have throughout history).
Moore should be asked if he thinks the executives of General Motors should have the right to kill him, for stalking them?
Granted, had they done this, it would have saved our nation much bad taste from “Jabba the Filmmaker.”
The guy’s a complete and utter dingelheimer. He would have had a right to use lethal force to protect himself had Zimmerman attacked him, but that obviously wasn’t the case.
But think how many bullets those GM executives would have needed.
Do they even make magazines that size?
Good question, so many of the defenders of Trayvon Martin say YES, that's street law.
Mr. Gun Control is against private gun ownership, but not people killing people. Wonderful.
PM is CNN’s BOR
Maybe its just me, but I get the feeling Michael Moore is stalking me.
I listened to him about 5 seconds last night. That was all I could take without throwing something through my TV.
Mr. Moron, stalking is a crime that occurs over an extended period of time, and it is not equivalent to following a suspicious person at all.
Furthermore, the act of stalking someone does not directly place their life in imminent danger, as bashing a person head into concrete repeatedly DOES.
So, no, the thug Martin would not have had the right to shoot Zimmerman.
NO! The police dispatcher’s SUGGESTION is merely that. Zimmerman had absolutely no legal obligation to follow the dispatcher’s suggestion.
Dispatchers are not deputized law enforcers, and that’s likely to come up in the trial when it gets under way.
Actually, I think we can fully accept that a neighborhood watchman who is looking out for the neighborhood is not a fair target to be killed. I would consider that concept to be settled.
Just more evidence that liberals are all stoopid imbeciles.
911 operators are not police, so it doesn't matter what they tell you.
Black can murder whites for the most minor reason.
Whites should never defend themselves.
I kill everyone who watches or follows me.
What’s the big deal?
The left is dissolving into a vicious freak show.
They should charge admission.
Hey Moore, you @sshat! Trayvon TRIED to kill him but Zimmerman was armed!
Is the fat starting to smother your arteries AND your pea brain!?
I’d be surprised if Moore approves of the death penalty. That’s a penalty imposed by a judge or jury after twelve jurors have heard all the evidence, given it consideration, and come to a unanimous conclusion.
And yet here he actually approves of the death penalty if the guy that is the target of investigation, is merely watched from a distance, or asked what he is up to. He’s actually saying that this guy should be able to kill the person watching or asking a simple easy question.
Some times you just have to shut up and quit proving how stupid you are. Of course that would imply you had the mental faculties to realize you needed to.
Of course, Michael Moore is a complete idiot, so we can't really expect him to know the difference.
Poor chessplayer siding with Michael Moore’s big dumb ass now.
Understood. It’s obvious from the testimony that GZ broke off the search and even stated something to the effect, “They always get away.” So he’s walking back to his truck and is jumped and he’s just supposed to lay down and take a beating?
In my opinion, GZ did the public a service. Had the tables been turned, Martin would’ve pulled the trigger, killing or injuring GZ, and we the taxpayer would be paying to keep him fed, clothed, and given access to medical care, free cable, and workout facilities.
Our justice system is becoming a joke.
You know, we use the word “predator” a bit too liberally these days. More often than not most of the the “wolves” we are faced with anymore aren’t predators at all, they’re scavengers. They won’t mess with anything that’ll fight back. There are some true predatory animals out there, and they truly hunt, but for the most part I think that most of these idiots are looking for the path of least resistance. They don’t want to get dirty. “We’ll rob the old lady”, “Let’s abduct a kid”. A defensless target is an easy target, right? The solution for that is simple, refuse to be food. For the other, the true predator, the solution isn’t so simple. They are hunters. They stalk, they lay in wait. They kill. Those are the ones that will let you know that you’ve got a fight on your hands. Not fighting to get away, but fighting to get to you. All the posturing in the world won’t change their mind. You have to understand going into it that there will only be one left standing. Who will it be? You, or them? Maybe it is as simple as it seems...Victory, or nothing.
What do you expect, it's part of government...
They want your assets and money like everyone else in government.
Courts nowadays have more cash registers than Super Walmarts.
The ‘woman on the phone’ advised Zimmerman. She had no authority to order him to do anything. He broke no laws.
He's a comin after you cc!!!!! Hint: He may be a bit slow.........
Actually, that was my first question. If I were walking down the street at night and a man was stalking me, I’d feel within my rights to defend myself.
And the cops did tell Z. to back off.
IMHO, that’s where he messed up.
No wonder that idiot hates guns. He is too stupid to ever touch one.
At best he was given conflicting instructions from someone who wasn't at the scene.
It’s hard to believe after all of the foolishness that’s come out of Michael Moore’s mouth that he can still surprise anyone with such ignorant drivel.
Piers Morgan and Michael Moore
A pair of idiots having a conversation. What could go wrong?
“Doesn’t Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?”
One. Stalking is not a capital offense and therefore not punishable by death and so if you kill someone for “stalking you would be guilty of murder.
Two. Zimmerman was not stalking Martin He was following a suspicious person.
Three. A citizen is under no obligation to follow police “suggestion” when the citizen is not breaking the law. Should you? Maybe, maybe not..
Does the subject of a Michael Moore smear documentary have the right to kill Michael Moore for stalking them?
All the evidence indicates that Martin had created a distance of separation between them, but then came back to Zimmerman to confront him.
Exactly what happened at that point may not be entirely provable one way or another, but I think it seems pretty likely that at some point Martin had the easy opportunity to get back to his home, but chose not to.
He is confusing the condition of being physically attacked with an acute need for self defense with the condition of being stalked with no acute need for self defense.
Ok. So Martin took you up on your advice and decided to defend himself against someone following him.
His attack on Zimmerman then allowed Zimmerman to defend himself.
Imagine how Michael Moore would label you if you stated that a white 17 year old football player from Iowa should be allowed to beat to death a black father who he thinks may be following him.
It’s socialist frauds like this PATHETIC HAMBURGER MUNCHER that jumped to the wrong conclusion from the getgo to try and score political points for the left by making this into a race thing when race was not what it was about. As the evidence comes out, the PATHETIC LEFT once again shows what a bunch of miserable lying scumbags they are, as always.
No they didn't.
But does Trayvon Martin have the right to attack George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is/was following him and the police have told him not to follow him so George is returning to his truck? This is the main reason I have heard as to why George is gulity, once you follow someone on the street you have the right (by street law) to attack and kill them.
Stay far away from both Michael Moore’s mouth as well as his hindquarters. Both expel some of the most foul and smelly corruption in America.
If Trayvon has the right to kill Zimmerman, why doesn’t Zimmerman have the right to defend himself, to include killing Trayvon?