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Moore: 'Doesn't Trayvon Martin Have the Right to Kill Zimmerman If Zimmerman Is Stalking Him?'
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Posted on 07/25/2012 8:17:38 AM PDT by chessplayer

"Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?"

This question was actually asked Tuesday on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight by schlockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore during a discussion about gun laws in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colorado (video follows with transcript and commentary):

MICHAEL MOORE: Can I say something about that? About the Trayvon Martin thing? Let me put it this way. Let's say George Zimmerman’s right when he says Trayvon Martin tried to kill him. Alright. But it was George Zimmerman who was told by the police to quit stalking this boy. And he was the one who was committing the infraction against the law by disobeying the police and going after Trayvon Martin. Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?


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To: chessplayer

I kill everyone who watches or follows me.

What’s the big deal?


21 posted on 07/25/2012 8:45:35 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: chessplayer

The left is dissolving into a vicious freak show.
They should charge admission.


22 posted on 07/25/2012 8:47:24 AM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: chessplayer

Hey Moore, you @sshat! Trayvon TRIED to kill him but Zimmerman was armed!

Is the fat starting to smother your arteries AND your pea brain!?


23 posted on 07/25/2012 8:48:51 AM PDT by poobear (Socialism, in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: chessplayer

I’d be surprised if Moore approves of the death penalty. That’s a penalty imposed by a judge or jury after twelve jurors have heard all the evidence, given it consideration, and come to a unanimous conclusion.

And yet here he actually approves of the death penalty if the guy that is the target of investigation, is merely watched from a distance, or asked what he is up to. He’s actually saying that this guy should be able to kill the person watching or asking a simple easy question.

Some times you just have to shut up and quit proving how stupid you are. Of course that would imply you had the mental faculties to realize you needed to.


24 posted on 07/25/2012 8:49:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: rarestia
An even better question is, Does Trayvon Martin have the right to attack George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is/was following him and the police have told him not to follow him so George is returning to his truck?
25 posted on 07/25/2012 8:49:29 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: chessplayer
According to testimony, Travon was trying to get Zimmerman's gun so he could kill him. That's a far cry from someone following you around.

Of course, Michael Moore is a complete idiot, so we can't really expect him to know the difference.

26 posted on 07/25/2012 8:49:54 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: CaptainKrunch; chessplayer

Poor chessplayer siding with Michael Moore’s big dumb ass now.


27 posted on 07/25/2012 8:51:57 AM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: 2001convSVT

Understood. It’s obvious from the testimony that GZ broke off the search and even stated something to the effect, “They always get away.” So he’s walking back to his truck and is jumped and he’s just supposed to lay down and take a beating?

In my opinion, GZ did the public a service. Had the tables been turned, Martin would’ve pulled the trigger, killing or injuring GZ, and we the taxpayer would be paying to keep him fed, clothed, and given access to medical care, free cable, and workout facilities.

Our justice system is becoming a joke.


28 posted on 07/25/2012 8:53:05 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: chessplayer; All

You know, we use the word “predator” a bit too liberally these days. More often than not most of the the “wolves” we are faced with anymore aren’t predators at all, they’re scavengers. They won’t mess with anything that’ll fight back. There are some true predatory animals out there, and they truly hunt, but for the most part I think that most of these idiots are looking for the path of least resistance. They don’t want to get dirty. “We’ll rob the old lady”, “Let’s abduct a kid”. A defensless target is an easy target, right? The solution for that is simple, refuse to be food. For the other, the true predator, the solution isn’t so simple. They are hunters. They stalk, they lay in wait. They kill. Those are the ones that will let you know that you’ve got a fight on your hands. Not fighting to get away, but fighting to get to you. All the posturing in the world won’t change their mind. You have to understand going into it that there will only be one left standing. Who will it be? You, or them? Maybe it is as simple as it seems...Victory, or nothing.


29 posted on 07/25/2012 8:53:52 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: rarestia
Our justice system is becoming a joke.

What do you expect, it's part of government...

They want your assets and money like everyone else in government.

Courts nowadays have more cash registers than Super Walmarts.

30 posted on 07/25/2012 8:58:30 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The ‘woman on the phone’ advised Zimmerman. She had no authority to order him to do anything. He broke no laws.


31 posted on 07/25/2012 8:59:01 AM PDT by Tomato lover ( 'My soul, wait thou only upon God!')
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To: cripplecreek
I get the feeling Michael Moore is stalking me.

He's a comin after you cc!!!!! Hint: He may be a bit slow.........

32 posted on 07/25/2012 8:59:33 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt, the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: 2001convSVT

Actually, that was my first question. If I were walking down the street at night and a man was stalking me, I’d feel within my rights to defend myself.

And the cops did tell Z. to back off.

IMHO, that’s where he messed up.


33 posted on 07/25/2012 9:02:00 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: chessplayer

No wonder that idiot hates guns. He is too stupid to ever touch one.


34 posted on 07/25/2012 9:02:29 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Tomato lover
She had also asked GZ to report what the individual was doing, which would be hard to do when TM went behind the buildings and out of sight. I guess GZ could have driven his truck up on the grass between the units and kept reporting from there.

At best he was given conflicting instructions from someone who wasn't at the scene.

35 posted on 07/25/2012 9:02:46 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: chessplayer
Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?

No. Next.

36 posted on 07/25/2012 9:03:06 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: chessplayer

It’s hard to believe after all of the foolishness that’s come out of Michael Moore’s mouth that he can still surprise anyone with such ignorant drivel.


37 posted on 07/25/2012 9:03:53 AM PDT by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Moore should be asked if he thinks the executives of General Motors should have the right to kill him, for stalking them?

Excellent point.

38 posted on 07/25/2012 9:04:23 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: chessplayer

Piers Morgan and Michael Moore
A pair of idiots having a conversation. What could go wrong?
“Doesn’t Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?”

Ah stupidity..
One. Stalking is not a capital offense and therefore not punishable by death and so if you kill someone for “stalking you would be guilty of murder.
Two. Zimmerman was not stalking Martin He was following a suspicious person.
Three. A citizen is under no obligation to follow police “suggestion” when the citizen is not breaking the law. Should you? Maybe, maybe not..


39 posted on 07/25/2012 9:05:55 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: chessplayer

Does the subject of a Michael Moore smear documentary have the right to kill Michael Moore for stalking them?


40 posted on 07/25/2012 9:06:18 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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