Skip to comments.Virgil Goode submits 14,000 signatures for ballot, with help from Independent Greens
Posted on 07/25/2012 6:30:17 PM PDT by mnehring
With a little help from his friends, former congressman Virgil Goode has taken a key step toward getting his name on Novembers presidential ballot in Virginia, submitting more than 14,000 signatures to the State Board of Elections....
..Goode was a Democrat for much of his career, then became an Independent and finally a Republican for his last six years on Capitol Hill. Now Goode is getting assistance from yet another party, the Independent Greens, whose members have collected thousands of signatures for him....
...Virgil supports rail, and thats our big issue and hes with us on that, said Carey Campbell, a member of the Independent Greens executive committee. Weve had for many years a good relationship with the Constitution Party folks....
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I just don’t see value in replacing one Obamney with another. I could care less.
So why side with Romney now? He can’t get us where we want to go.
“So basically you are following the wishes of Obama and splitting the Republican vote. Obama is depending on people like you.”
It’s the RINOs who gave us no choice.
You are mistaking republicans for conservatives. Not the same thing by a long shot.
“Its the RINOs who gave us no choice.”
So those with your train of thought which there are many in this thread equate Mitt and Obama. IMHO Mitt is way better than Obama. I hate to see where the country will be with four more years of Obama. I’am not all that supportive of Mitt and preferred a number of candidates over him. However given the choice I will vote for Mitt. I am now concentrating on races such as Cruz defeating Dewhurst. That is where my money is going.
I forgot to say that I see Goode as nothing but a “red herring” running to draw votes from Mitt and giving Virginia to Obama.
“The logic is solid.”
You have no logic, that’s what’s solid.
“If you run someone you know will be rejected by a large share of your supporters, then it is reasonable to assume you dont want to win.”
You assume way to much with that statement. You assume that a large number of Republicans are going to vote against Romney. So far all I see are a small number of people who are determined to vote third party and by extension, a vote for Obama. It’s a fringe element that thinks itself more than it is...enough people with, with sufficient intelligence, are voting against Obama, but hey, we’re only doing it for the good of the country.
“So, MC, are you a member of the GOP-E?”
Oh of course I am. I just got back from a recent meeting of the Illuminati and Build-A-Burger (different group dedicated to taking over hamburgers). By your logic I would have to be huh? You like stupid assumptions don’t you? You’re like the single issue voter...if I’m not for you, I’m against you huh? I thought by your posts you were narrow minded but didn’t realize your post-it-notes were as thin as a blade of grass.
Because Obama will destroy America and there will be nothing to save in 2016.
So, those 15,000 new voters that the new Democrat organizing group has registered by sending registration forms to dogs, cats and illegals will be meaningless when it comes time to vote.
I think that they are telling them to vote by mail, absentee ballot.
Oh, have they endorsed Willard, too ?
You didn’t answer my question, which is a chronic problem with you. Tell me, do you just keep re-typing the Willardbot talking points off your script or do you think them up all by your lonesome ?
It could happen if the base didn’t act like sheep. It’s time to raise hell in Tampa.
We gotta support Willard so we can get rid of the Communist in the White House and replace him with a Socialist and then Conservatism wins !!!
As an old-school Willardbot like yourself knows, you make the presumption that if Goode isn’t on the ballot that the sheep will mindlessly vote for Willard instead. As usual, you’d be very wrong. If Conservatives have no alternative choice of someone who doesn’t insult their values and beliefs as Willard has done throughout his adult life, they simply will either seek out another candidate or NOT vote.
I find it curious how some posters on FR with "Conservative" in their handle do their damndest to pimp the candidacy of the biggest Socialist the GOP has ever put up for President. You ain't foolin' anybody.
Just last week his gun-control tendencies came to the fore when he stated after Aurora he wouldn't change his gun grabbing in Massachusetts, and that he LIKES that kind of legislation.
July 23 - Romney: "....our challenge is not the laws but the people who obviously are distracted from reality and do unthinkable, unimaginable, inexplicable things. "
Kudlow: "As the governor of massachusetts you did sign legislation restricting or banning a assault weapons. did that work in massachusetts to your satisfaction?"
Romney: "Well, actually the law that we signed in massachusetts was a combination of efforts both on the part of those that were for additional gun rights and those that opposed gun rights. They came together and made some changes that provided, i think, a better environment for both. That's why both sides came to celebrate the signing of the bill. Were there opportunities for people of reasonable minds to come together and find common ground? That's the legislation i like."
I will NEVER ever vote for that. He is a pro-abortion, pro-homosexualism, pro-gun control, social corporatist liberal. IOW, a radical liberal.
Republican, you act as if there were no media bias, no lying campaign, no dirty tricks, and no enormous money advantage.
We can go on and on about each candidate having an equal chance, but we know it isn't true.
Also, I remind you that the Republican Party is a private organization and not a governmental one. They have no reason to keep a hands off policy, and they did not do so...they were clearly in the tank for Mitt from the beginning.
Again, MC, the above is entirely rational. You even know it is. And, I'll bet you'll tell me that you did NOT support Romney. You'll tell me that you don't support his anti-life, pro-gay agenda, anti-gun, pro-cronyist, liberal positions.
Those turn off conservatives. They deflate them. They demoralize them. They discourage them.
They certainly don't fire them up so they get out there and work for the liberal who mouths liberal policies.
So, my conclusion is that you want Obama to win. By knowingly supporting a liberal candidate, by knowingly pushing a guy who is worse than McCain redux, you are pushing for a Republican loss.
The only conclusion is that you are in favor of an Obama victory.
“I think that they are telling them to vote by mail, absentee ballot.”
No can do. Under Virginia law you cannot vote absentee until you have voted in person at least once and shown ID. Again, while I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some low level of voter fraud going on, I doubt it rises to the level seen in other states.
Chavez, Castro, PolPot, Ho, Mao, and all the other destroyers that he emulates and wants to be like, I mean, what could possible go wrong?
And yes, you just keep fighting on about "purity of principle", even the ones you claim to agree with would laugh in your face. Invoking their names doesn't help your
Don’t you Romney(bots) ever get tired of saying if you don’t vote for Romney you are voting for BHO? It is bogus.
A non vote for Romney is a non vote for Romney, it is not an additional vote for BHO or whoever.
A non vote for BHO is a non vote for BHO, it is not an additional vote for Romney or whoever.
A non vote for whoever is a non vote for whoever, it is not additional vote for Romney or BHO.
...and Obama gets elected to another four years. I hate to see what this country will look like with another 4 years of Obama.
Oh, it’s gonna suck. Although the bright side will be the GOP maintaining and increasing control of Congress, Governorships, etc., and the likely win in 2016 of the Presidency (presuming another Socialist isn’t nominated, like Bloomberg).
If Willard the Socialist gets elected, we can likely look forward to a repeat of the 4 horrible years during the time he served as Governor. He won’t repeal ZeroCare (indeed, he’ll try to “improve” it, and I don’t say that in a positive sense), he’ll go wishy-washy on virtually every issue of concern to Conservatives, left-wing judges, gay marriage, no drastic spending cuts (at least in MA, Governors are FORCED to submit a balanced budget - he won’t have to in DC). In the end, he’ll split the party (well, already has), he’ll cost the GOP Congress by 2014, scores of Governorships and legislatures. The Democrats will get to blame everything on the GOP (even though it’s their policies, unchanged under Willard) and will easily reclaim the Presidency in 2016 (either with Hillary or Andrew Cuomo, etc.), and they’ll have carte blanche again, just like Zero did. In other words, virtually no policies will change, the GOP gets the blame (and hence Conservatives, despite nothing “Conservative” having been done under Willard).
Just take a good look at those states that had leftist RINO Governance, once swept from office, replaced with hardcore ultraleft regimes. California after Ah-nold (to Jerry Brown !), Connecticut (after Jodi Rell), Hawaii (after Lingle), Illinois (after George Ryan), Massachusetts (after you-know-who), New York, Ohio (after Taft)...
Point being, if you’re not going to elect a Conservative Republican leader (Governor or President), what’s the point ? Elect a RINO Socialist or a fraud lying to your face about not being one (when their record demonstrates that they are) and it only causes OUR side harm, and the Democrats get everything (not only their agenda enacted by a fake Republican, but they clean up at the next election). Let the Democrats own it and let them take the full blame for ultraleftism.
I already know why you and I didn’t support Romney in the primary. That doesn’t change the fact that conservatives on the whole supported him. You also continue to omit the simultaneous ousting and rejection of other establishment figures which completely undoes your entire argument.
Your solution is no more helpful to the future of the Republic than the most militant member of the CPUSA. Marveling at the “creativity” of aligning with leftist groups using Goode (longtime Democrat turned Independent, turned Republican, turned Constitution Party) to try to help Obama get re-elected...apparently Goode supports the wasteful rail projects as one of his claims to fame.
fieldmarshaldj, it doesn’t matter WHO your candidate was, that’s the point. Mitt Romney is the republican nominee for President of the United States of America. You are not voting for him, your candidate had to be someone else. Maybe it’s Obama, Roseanne Barr, who knows. Maybe you’re one of those fence sitters who just can’t make decisions. The fact remains the same, you didn’t work hard enough for your candidate to receive the republican nomination.
The same goes for everyone. Conservative candidates were routinely and regularly trashed here. Roseanne Barr is associated with the Green Party. Virgil Goode was helped by the Green Party. Does Virgil Goode share the same warped thoughts as Roseanne Barr? Of course not, right?
There’s a few core people who post here all the time, and it seems like it’s the same on every thread.
Me too! and for the very same reason (Isn't that a coincidence?)!
Actually, while I am largely a Reagan Conservative (embracing the principles of all three factions), I hail out of social conservatism, and still wear the Pro-Life hat as firmly as ever: Pro-Life is a prerequisite I will always insist upon... And Romney, on the question of Life alone, is left wanting, to say the least. Without any other consideration, Life alone would stop me from voting for this SOB. But as it turns out, even if one could convince me to overlook Life, the list of irreconcilable differences is longer than my arm. And there is nary a single positive aspect to vote *FOR*... with the possible exception that he seems to keep Brylcreme and Dentu-Grip in business, all by himself.
But more importantly than my vote, I will predict that the Christian Right will *not* turn out for Romney for the same reason (The Life thing, not the Brylcreme thing). Our FRiends here don't seem to understand that the die is already cast. If the Christians won't vote for him, he ain't gonna win. It is as simple as that.
Republican, you act as if there were no media bias, no lying campaign, no dirty tricks, and no enormous money advantage. We can go on and on about each candidate having an equal chance, but we know it isn't true. Also, I remind you that the Republican Party is a private organization and not a governmental one. They have no reason to keep a hands off policy, and they did not do so...they were clearly in the tank for Mitt from the beginning.
Which is exactly why I am a Republican no longer... and why 60% of Conservatives now stand outside of the GOP. I no longer have any obligation to vote for anything they throw up (pun intended), and I am fine with that. I will probably vote for Hoefling, unless Goode catches fire, but I see no reason why I couldn't vote for Goode if it turns out that way.
I am puzzled with your failure to understand that I will only vote for credible, Conservative candidates for high office with the record to back up the rhetoric. Virgil Goode’s Conservative record speaks for itself, and so does Willard’s Socialist one (nevermind Zero’s).
Will you openly admit here that you’ll vote for whatever the Republican establishment foists on the public, no matter how leftist ? Tell the truth. What are YOUR core values ?
You didn’t work hard enough for your candidate, that is a fact.
Do you also support Roseanne Barr who’s a member of the Green Party that helped Virgil Goode?
I am voting for Mitt Romney. It’s ABO. Period.
You voted for McCain in 2008, you’ve seen the damage Obama has done, but this year, you’re willing to give him 4 more years. Gotcha.
Due to your continual misrepresentations, failure to answer direct questions and general nonsense, I surmise you are either on Willard’s payroll or you are a troll (not as though there is a difference).
You’re almost there, almost to the personal stuff.
You voted for John McCain in 2008. You couldn’t bring yourself to vote for Obama. Now, you’ve seen the damage Obama has done. You’re not voting for the candidate with a chance of defeating him. You’re backing Virgil Goode who was backed by vile Roseanne Barr’s green party?
There is no misrepresentation. If you want to keep going around and around, by all means do so. I really don’t have the need to continue. It’s always the same here and it’s sad. The same core group of posters on almost every single thread and that group takes it just to the point of personal attacks. Just as liberals do.
While I am on a payroll, it is not that of a political candidate, instead, I am employed by an evil rich corporation.
Have a good day.
The only reasons that the Greens would help Goode is help Obama win.
The Independent Greens of Virginia, (also known as the Indy Greens), is the state affiliate of the Independence Party of America in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
It became a state party around 2003 when a faction of the Arlington local chapter of the Green Party of Virginia (GPVA) split from the main party.
As of 2011, it bills itself as a "fiscally conservative, socially responsible green party", with an emphasis on rail transportation and "more candidates". In support of wider ballot participation, it endorses many independent candidates who are not affiliated with the party.
The party, separate from the national Green Party, affiliated itself with the Independence Party of America on January 10, 2008.
Without "major party" status for automatic ballot access in Virginia, the party has had to gather petition signatures to get on the ballot. The requirement for statewide elections is 10,000 signatures, including at least 400 from each of Virginia's 11 congressional districts. In order for the party to gain automatic ballot access as a major party, one of its nominated candidates must receive 10% of the vote in a statewide race.
Philosophy and Positions
The platform of the Independent Greens focuses on fiscal conservatism, calling for balanced budgets at local, state, and federal levels, and paying off the national debt. The party supports term limits as well as transportation issues.
It is perhaps best known for its advocacy of "More Trains, Less Traffic" building high speed rail nationwide, new rail subways in every major American city, and light rail. On July 7, 2008, the Indy Greens endorsed the Pickens Plan, a proposal by financier T. Boone Pickens, to build wind and solar power, and cut dependence on foreign oil. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Green_Party_of_Virginia
So, to be clear about what Virgil Goode has done. It boils down to this: He and another new party in Viginia have combined their efforts in gathering signatures to get on the Virginia ballot, given VA's extremely strict requirements that Perry/Gingrich/Santorum considered unconstitutional.
I consider Goode's move to be very creative.
Clever question -
and rather silly -
Jim is as entitled to like/dislike whomever he wishes.
Doesn’t mean I have to agree.
Kick me off, it really is so far beyond that at this point.
There is NOTHING conservative about any part of the environmental movement, nothing at all. Environmentalism is a political philosophy that eschews private property, and the individual. Conservative environmentalism is an oxymoron.
Oh, they might advocate a tight fiscal agenda, but that hardly makes them conservative. You cannot have a conservative, small government environmental movement.
More trolling, more falsehoods. You talk like a telemarketer, another Willardbot employee.
BTW, you claim to have been a Palin supporter. The irony that you would become a Willardbot after what he did to her is truly something. Pretty disgusting and shameful, actually... But hey, when you’re in the bag for Willard, selling your ethics, morals and principles is the cost. Your soul, too. Mine’s not for sale.
Absurd. You can be an environmentalist and a Conservative (where the hell do you think “conservation” came from ?). What you are confusing are the wackjob loonies who hide behind the environmentalist label who are essentially Communists and the Zero Growth types, the Global Warming zealots. I get more than a little sick of folks that say you cannot be “pro-environment” (responsibly so) and Conservative. You give ammo to the leftist kooks with that rhetoric by making it look like only they own that issue.
Sooo.... voting *for* the globalist Romney is how to defeat globalism?
I'd like to understand how you can think that... Or mebbe not.
No, you can be a conservationist and a conservative. Environmentalism is a political movement that has not so much to do with the environment as it does with control of the people and government interference in every part of our lives.
if you want to understand the environmental movement, you should read Stanley Kurtz, new book, The Radical in Chief, the untold story of Obama’s war on the suburbs. It’s about the real agenda behind the environmental movement, to spread the costs of the inner cities to the suburbs, for the water, the sewage and trash disposal as well as for the First Responders.
I just detest the left’s having hijacked those phrases (conservationism and environmentalism) and perverted them. Same goes for the term, “(classic) liberal”, which is what “Conservatism” is today. They hijack and ruin everything they touch.
It is not part of the environmental movement; it is what I posted:
In fact, it sounds like a place that Romney supporters would love: fiscally conservative and they want to ignore social issues.
Tortured “logic” at its best by an Obamabot. Own up to it. You’re a wasted vote. A narrow minded narcissist who can’t see beyond their own nose. But hey, you’ll show those evil GOP-e types. You’ll help give them 4 more years of Obama.
Then, after Obama is re-elected, you will b*tch and complain about it but what you need to do is keep your trap shut because it’s what you wanted. Now go throw your temper tantrum on other threads. Puke up your self righteousness for all to see. Lay bare your narrow minded, single issue voter mentality for all to admire.
“I find it curious how some posters on FR with “Conservative” in their handle do their damndest to pimp the candidacy of the biggest Socialist the GOP has ever put up for President. You ain’t foolin’ anybody.”
I find it curious how some posters on FR who claim to be Conservative can throw away a vote and give the election to the biggest Marxist that the US has ever seen in the White House. You can try and fool yourself but a spade is a spade.
Left speechless by a stupid illogical post? You’re dreaming...lol
Oh no...you called me a Romneybot...how will I ever survive, not sure I can go on...ugh.
Seriously, it’s simple. You can go ahead and vote 3rd party, it is your right to do so. But that is a wasted vote guaranteed to be a vote for Obama. So go ahead, do what you feel is best for you and your conscience but when Obama is re-elected and you b *tch and complain about what he does for the next four years, I will be there to remind you that this is what you wanted, guaranteed.
I’m not throwing away a vote. I’m voting for the Conservative. You’re voting for a Socialist fraud. If you think by voting for a fake-R Socialist that you’ll get Conservatism, you’re lying to yourself.
“Im not throwing away a vote. Im voting for the Conservative. Youre voting for a Socialist fraud. If you think by voting for a fake-R Socialist that youll get Conservatism, youre lying to yourself.”
If you think that voting for a third party will get you Conservatism, then you’re not as smart as you pretend. Keep the blinders on, it’s your right. Keep living the pipe dream, it’s your right. Go ahead, “teach” the GOP a lesson.
What great magical Conservative things will Willard do ? Name them.
Oh I have no illusion that Romney is a Conservative. I know he’s not. But what I do know is that he is all we have this time around. The alternative is far worse. I am a realist as well as a Conservative. I would rather have a man in that position that has been in business and will help the economy, not destroy it. Four more years of Obama will finish us off. I understand this and refuse to throw a temper tantrum like a child because my candidate didn’t win. I’m not throwing a temper tantrum like some around her because my candidate DIDN’T EVEN RUN.
I live in the real world where no one is perfect but you make do with the hand you’re dealt.