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If I'm not mistaken, Targets was Karloff's last US picture.

Anyway, this is not news to most of us, just surprising to hear it from one of Hollywood's own.

1 posted on 07/25/2012 6:41:17 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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Of course movies are a problem...reality itself is a problem.

Life is a problem. It is difficult to adapt to...not pretty...but there it is!

Get a life...and adapt!

2 posted on 07/25/2012 6:46:54 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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I don’t think he really cares. He just doesn’t want to be sued.


3 posted on 07/25/2012 6:49:56 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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We mustn’t dare say that! They’ll accuse us of wanting censorship. I would call it common sense. Movies to affect people, especially young people. I can remember acting out movies as kids. But I haven’t seen any of the Batman movies (though I used to love the TV show), so I can’t comment on them.


4 posted on 07/25/2012 6:50:13 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: P.O.E.

Peter Bogdanovich as Captain Obvious. Yes, I thought of “Targets” hearing of this recent incident. In the film the perp shoots into the audience from behind the screen at a drive-in theater, a highly symbolic and deeply thoughtful from the point of view of film history, scene.


5 posted on 07/25/2012 6:50:58 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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At the same time, he takes the standard potshots at guns and the NRA.


6 posted on 07/25/2012 6:53:01 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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IBDOEVHT - (In Before Defenders OF Entertainment Vehicle Product Hollywood Trash!)


7 posted on 07/25/2012 6:53:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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In other words: What if Water really is Wet??


9 posted on 07/25/2012 6:56:24 PM PDT by eyeamok
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As a fan of movies, heavy metal music and a video gamer since the Atari 2600 days, it seems obvious that what we view/play will effect our views/perceptions. In today’s culture where actions are free from consequense, it’s also unsurprising that people feel free to act on impuls in a morality free way.

So what changed and why didn’t kids from the 40s-80s go psycho every week after all the ultraviolent gangster movies, loony tunes cartoons etc?

Well, first and foremost, PARENTS taught the concept of right and wrong...and they weren’t arrested or recipients of CPS ‘love’ for doing so. Kids went to church. Kids could act out their fantasies playing cops and robbers/cowboys and indians/army et all, without CPS and a team of teachers, psychologists-psychiatrists and the rest ‘reeducating’ them for simply playing childhood games.

Why are kids in front of the TV watching R movies and playing M rated games all day? Could it be that every time they go outside they have to navigate a PC world they have no clue of understanding (as it changes by the second), the EPA and ‘safety’ groups outlawed anything resembling ‘fun’ on public lands...

EVERY BIT of this issue is 100% the responsibility of liberalism. ALL OF IT. It all goes back to the same source.


10 posted on 07/25/2012 6:57:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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I think we all realize that ‘whatever a man sows, that he also reaps.’ Or what goes around, comes around.
The year after Bambi came out hunting licenses dropped by 60% across America. (If my memory recall is accurate.) Movies do make an impact. It is ‘nice’ to know that some acknowledge that.


11 posted on 07/25/2012 6:58:51 PM PDT by PastorJimCM (truth matters)
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it’s about time


12 posted on 07/25/2012 6:59:50 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Karloff’s last picture was “Plan Nine from Outer Space” by Ed Wood. He died before it was completed.


13 posted on 07/25/2012 7:00:31 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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He must listen to Michael Savage , who said as much last Friday on his show .


21 posted on 07/25/2012 7:18:24 PM PDT by sushiman
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You guys are missing the fact that Holmes is a nut job and he was going to hurt people regardless if Hollywood churned out violent movies.


25 posted on 07/25/2012 7:24:51 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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This just reflects the breakdown of our society; the reign of those who consider that there is no such things as right and wrong or that good and evil are archaic superstitions at best and non-existent as even better.

And I wonder if the breakdown of the much maligned studio system may also play a part.


28 posted on 07/25/2012 7:31:01 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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If the shooter had seen Bogdanovich’s, “At Long Last Love” he probably would have shot himself.


30 posted on 07/25/2012 7:38:12 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Movies certainly do influence people for good or bad.

I watched a Roy Rogers half hour show this afternoon. It had Roy, Dale and all the rest. There was a little girl whose Father was in trouble.

They found his Bible and noticed he had been reading a verse about forgiveness. Also toward the end, Roy, Dale, The Girl and even Pat Buttram all sang the song “the Bible Tells Me So”’

I immediately realized they would never show that in a modern TV show.


35 posted on 07/25/2012 8:27:54 PM PDT by yarddog
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I think it is safe to say that horrific murder, rape, & mayhem is as old as man himself. Today's mass murderers have nothing on the Vandals, Huns, Mongols, the Inquisition, & most despots up until the modern era. “Hatchet Man” long predates the movies & TV.

While violent films may encourage violence in some viewers, for other viewers it is a reminder that evil exists & vigilance must be maintained.

Recall that scary movie you attended as a child. Did you leave the movie thinking you were invincible, or highly vulnerable?

I don't much care for highly violent films. The daily news is violent enough. But I do enjoy a good action pic, & if the bad guys get hot lead, so much the better.

The problem is not the movies. The problem is watching Mom & Dad at home getting drunk & beating the crap out of each other, or parents too busy to bother with the kids. The problem is schools/churches that teach relativist crap rather than moral imperatives. The problem is a gov’t that encourages promiscuity, sloth, & corruption. The problem is a society that doesn't know what is right or wrong.

36 posted on 07/25/2012 8:59:24 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Bogdanovich mentioned the murder/suicide of Dorothy Stratten. Did he ever stop and think it may have turned out differently, if Stratten had her own gun.

It was her soon to be ex-husband that murdered her. How many women are beaten to death, strangled, or stabbed to death as a result of such domestic situations?!

I'd bet most do not involve a gun. He is trying to tie one thing to another and not very successfully.

37 posted on 07/25/2012 9:39:17 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane (What happened to checks and balances?!)
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The other point I would make: Even with all the murders in the United States since the Kennedys were killed, very few people have experienced murder directly. Generally speaking, the average person hasn't experienced it, and the average director hasn't experienced it.

50 million dead by abortion, plus those killed by legal botched abortions.

But nobody knows anyone who has experienced/perpetrated such violence. < /sarc >

"How did Nixon win? Nobody I know voted for him!" - Pauline Kael.

38 posted on 07/25/2012 11:13:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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"... Guns don't kill people. People kill people" and all that bullsh!t from the NRA. Politicians are afraid to touch it because of the right wing. And nothing ever changes. We're living in the Wild West.

In the Wild West, you had a fighting chance. The audience in Aurora was told to leave the guns at home. The LAW ABIDING members of the audience were unarmed. Not so the villain.

39 posted on 07/25/2012 11:16:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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