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Firing of gay [BSA Eagle Scout] staffer leads 10 to quit in support
Sacramento Bee ^ | July 25, 2012 | Ed Fletcher

Posted on 07/25/2012 7:58:45 PM PDT by kevcol



Tension over the Boy Scouts of America's anti-gay policy reached the Sacramento region this week after 10 members of an area summer camp staff walked out in response to the firing of a gay staff member.

Local BSA officials said the young man was fired not because he is gay, but because he failed to heed repeated requests to dress appropriately for camp. Specifically at issue were his painted fingernails and earring, although one senior official said there were also complaints about his mannerisms and behavior.
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On the other side, Randy Thomasson, president of the website SaveCalifornia.com, which bills itself as an advocate for traditional family values, said the Scouts had every right to dismiss Griffin.

"The Scout policy is well known," Thomasson said. "The Boy Scouts have high standards for behavior. The Boy Scouts ought to be commended for maintaining their high standards.

"This guy should not have been working there once he decided he was against their stance on sexuality," he said.

Still, the firing came as a shock to Griffin, a Vacaville native who grew up in a Scouting family.

"As I grew up in the Boy Scouts, I realized I was queer at a young age," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; fired; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; workplace
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To: kevcol

Here’s an idea. Put all the gay scoutmasters with all the gay scouts. There shouldn’t be anything to worry about since the gay experts assure us the gay men are not looking for gay boys.

And do the same thing for the military. If all the lesbos are together and all the gay men are together, will the experts be concerned about them having sex all the time? After all, they’re not there for sex.

Hell, create a batallion of She-men-haters and turn’em lose. And create a batallion of light in the loafers gay soldiers and put them it the VERY light infantry foot brigaid.


51 posted on 07/25/2012 11:40:28 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: kevcol

We had this happen in the Scouts when I was a kid. Don’t know if the scoutmaster knew what was going on or just oblivious. 2 asst scout masters were molesting kids. We knew what was going on but had no idea of what to say to anyone. This was back in the 60s and the subject was never addressed as it is today. Different time. Woulda been easier to hide their bodies then, at any rate.


52 posted on 07/25/2012 11:51:00 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Terry Mross

Good post. There is no reason why this weirdo can’t start his own “Gay Scout” group. This is America. I’m sure that thousands of parents would be willing to turn their blossoming young rangers into the hands of this misunderstood fellow.


53 posted on 07/25/2012 11:59:41 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("Bedroom eyes and boardroom faces, Oh where will it lead?" from "Red Toupee by Al Stewart)
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To: kevcol
"As I grew up in the Boy Scouts, I realized I was queer at a young age," he said."

This is very odd. And just how does that happen? When most boys in the scouts at a young age are interested in camping and exploring the woods this "it's all about me" guy is exploring his "sexuality"?

We now know that virtually all male homosexuals were molested as children by an older male. Is that what happened? And he wants to keep the cycle going? That is how it works.

54 posted on 07/26/2012 12:10:43 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: kevcol

Perverts on parade.


55 posted on 07/26/2012 12:25:00 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: CitizenUSA

The Sandusky’s are tempting fate just after Penn state got clobbered because of homo pedophilia. the fags know that homo scouts for America will fail.

These leftist America haters only want to destroy a conservative institution.


56 posted on 07/26/2012 12:53:34 AM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: formosa

Excuse me, but as a naturist (nudist to those of you in Rio Linda) I have to disagree about your statement. We live in a clothing optional subdivision (a nice family neighborhood) and we (dads) don’t have sex with girls.


57 posted on 07/26/2012 12:55:35 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: kevcol

Jerry Sandusky for scout leader.!! /s


58 posted on 07/26/2012 2:13:08 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: kevcol

AMEN....GOOD RIDDANCE!! Hey GAYS....start your OWN GAY BOT SCOUT GROUP!!


59 posted on 07/26/2012 2:14:44 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: kevcol

AMEN....GOOD RIDDANCE!! Hey GAYS....start your OWN GAY BOT SCOUT GROUP!!


60 posted on 07/26/2012 2:14:58 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: kevcol

BSA should tell folks they are avoiding Sanduskys.


61 posted on 07/26/2012 2:23:23 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia. 2016 starts today! Walker, Issa, Rubio,)
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To: kevcol

What could go wrong with a flamboyant gay transvestite . . . at a camp . . . with young boys . . . and relatively few parents?


62 posted on 07/26/2012 3:33:06 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: CitizenUSA
Any leftist who doesn’t like the Boy Scouts of America is free to create the Queer Scouts of America (QSA) and see how far that gets them.

Would love to see that! The QSA.... I won't be supporting any of their fundraisers!

63 posted on 07/26/2012 4:16:32 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: 2banana
Why don’t the gays start the “Gay Boy Scouts” or the “Man-Boy Love Scouts” instead of trying to destroy this very successful PRIVATE organization? Why? Because NO ONE would join it and it would be a miserable failure. So instead the gays have to destroy what they can not ever hope to build.

INDEED!!!!

64 posted on 07/26/2012 4:18:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: kevcol

The Boy Scouts demonstrate more maturity and common sense than the entire Democratic Party.


65 posted on 07/26/2012 4:26:35 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: manc

The Real Homosexual Agenda

A Self-Styled ‘Gay Revolutionary’ Offers a Challenge to Straight America:
“We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, ...wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us. All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our holy gods are handsome young men. ...We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed...”
Michael Swift - Boston Gay Community News - February 15-21, 1987
(From the Traditional Values Coalition Special Report, Vol. 18., No. 10)

Find out about the homosexual movement and its link to pedophilia.

http://www.truenews.org/Homosexuality/real_agenda.html


66 posted on 07/26/2012 5:32:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: skeeter
The media are in an uproar about Penn State, yet are outraged when an organization takes steps to prevent molestation. They had better figure out which side they're on here.

They don't have to. They are doing just fine, being "outraged" at homosexual behavior "here," while being "outraged" at efforts to prevent homosexual behavior "there." Nobody that makes any difference is calling them on it.

67 posted on 07/26/2012 6:30:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You have all been given written notice of my mid-life crisis. You have, understand?)
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To: CitizenUSA

Any leftist who doesn’t like the Boy Scouts of America is free to create the Queer Scouts of America (QSA) and see how far that gets them. Seriously. This is supposedly a free country. Don’t like the BSA? Create your own scouts or shut up!!!


Camp Jerry Sandusky?


68 posted on 07/26/2012 6:56:53 AM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: Eagles6

When I was a Boyscout a group of fathers on the campout cornrered one of the assistant scout masters and quietly told him that if they ever saw him alone again with a kid in his tent they would beat the living he!! Out of him. He quit after the campout.


69 posted on 07/26/2012 7:40:06 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: ExCTCitizen

First of all a boys camp IS NOT a nudist colony. Secondly, no insult intended, but the vast majority of parents would not allow under any circumstances their kids to attend a naturist camp. You might not want to touch naked children but there are plenty of freaks who do. No reason to take an unnecessary chance.


70 posted on 07/26/2012 8:56:54 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: ExCTCitizen

What the HELL are you doing on this forum??? Why don’t you lay down in the grass and search for some Hanta Virus this fine summer.


71 posted on 07/26/2012 9:06:42 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All

Why do you think they call it “camp”? ;)


72 posted on 07/26/2012 11:08:01 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: steve86

What am I doing on this forum? 90% of naturists are conservative. We are freedom loving individuals that don’t like to wear clothes when it is not needed.


73 posted on 07/26/2012 1:36:42 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: buffaloguy

That’s parental involvement.


74 posted on 07/26/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Eagles6

Yup.

My grandfather apparently was involved in the beating of a man in his neighborhood who had molested one of the little girls who lived nearby. Five guys grabbed the perp when he answered the knock at the door at 2AM and left him barely breathing on the lawn. The cops were sitting down a block or so in a car watching to make sure that they didn’t kill him.

The beating was never officially solved by the police. The guy went into the hospital for two months and then sold his home and left the area.

Although a bit unusual, it may explain why there were fewer examples of child molestation in the 1930s. It truly was a different world in those days.


75 posted on 07/27/2012 6:26:12 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: ExCTCitizen

This might not be the forum for you.


76 posted on 07/27/2012 6:37:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
realized I liked men at a young age,too. (Well,not THAT young. Around 14,perhaps)

YOU ARE GAY!!!


77 posted on 07/27/2012 6:42:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz
Yes, it is. I am a conservative, who believes in personal freedom. If my wife, my kids and my lifestyle offends you, maybe this forum is not for you.

Indidival freedoms, unless YOU don't like the freedom the person is doing.

78 posted on 07/27/2012 11:54:57 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Yer naked. That makes you offensive, liberal, and a possible pedophile.


79 posted on 07/27/2012 12:05:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz
You are nuts! Drive down my street and you'll see signs for the GOP, my county (Pasco) is very CONSERVATIVE, and it is the home of 12 naturist resorts, including the biggist resort, PARADISE LAKES.

Don't ASSUME that naturists are LIBERAL. We are defending the rights of freedom.

80 posted on 07/27/2012 12:34:25 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen; Lazamataz

So, how ‘bout it Laz? Up for a field trip? Don’t forget your camera....


81 posted on 07/27/2012 12:40:47 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

:-) You can’t drive down the street, since it is gated.


82 posted on 07/27/2012 12:48:32 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

How’s Laz supposed to drive down your street and see how conservative you are? (I am glad to hear it’s gated)

;^)


83 posted on 07/27/2012 12:51:29 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I am a small government conservative with a bit of libertarian in raising of our kids. We are dependent on the family unit, not the government!


84 posted on 07/27/2012 1:13:45 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen
Freedom to have your snake swingin'?

Freedom to have mom's funbags danglin'?

Somehow, I dont believe the Founding Fathers primary concern was the public display of pubes.

85 posted on 07/27/2012 1:18:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz

Ben Franklin was a nudist. Now, it is my and my wife’s choice to raise our kids as naturists. Of course, it is your choice to raise your kids fearing the human body, the one GOD created.


86 posted on 07/27/2012 1:51:21 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

People who are naked are INHERENTLY EVIL.


87 posted on 07/27/2012 2:43:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz

That includes newborn babies. If you don’t clothe them they do all kinds of vile things. :)


88 posted on 07/27/2012 3:05:55 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: Lazamataz
I'm EVIL? Jeez, I didn't know that you were the judge of what is EVIL. Sorry, but GOD will JUDGE us, not YOU!

I'm not sure where you came from, but on EARTH we are born nude.

89 posted on 07/27/2012 3:09:42 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Laz has been here since 1999. You may want to find a more convincing argument.


90 posted on 07/27/2012 3:12:06 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ExCTCitizen
Pure, wretched spawn of SATAN HIMSELF, why must you go nude? For is it not written that once eating from the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE that they realized they were naked, AND THEN THEY WERE ASHAMED???!?

When will you SATAN WORSHIPERS ever learn?

91 posted on 07/27/2012 3:25:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: trisham

SATAN WALKS AMONGST US!!!!! He’s that poster, ExCTCitizen.


92 posted on 07/27/2012 3:27:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Lazamataz

Nice to see you, FRiend. :)


93 posted on 07/27/2012 3:30:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Okay, so Laz been here since 1999. I am not trying to fight with him. If we want to associate ourself with like minded naturists, we have the freedom that is in the CONSTITUTION. I guess Laz is for the freedom to associate with groups he thinks acceptable to his values.

If one group is banned, is that FREEDOM?

94 posted on 07/27/2012 4:32:26 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen
Okay, so Laz been here since 1999. I am not trying to fight with him. If we want to associate ourself with like minded naturists, we have the freedom that is in the CONSTITUTION. I guess Laz is for the freedom to associate with groups he thinks acceptable to his values. If one group is banned, is that FREEDOM?

Yes. You are naked. Naked is EVIL. Read the BIBLE. It says that NAKED is EVIL. NO MORE NAKED ALLOWED!

95 posted on 07/29/2012 5:33:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: ExCTCitizen

I have only one question: Are you Satan?


96 posted on 07/29/2012 6:01:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Not so easy to recruit suitable replacements mid-way in the summer. I have no idea who the people who walked out were, but if they were program staff - the kids who are actually teaching merit badges, etc. - this kind of move really screws over the Scouts that these people pledged to serve.

And it’s entirely appropriate to fire a staffer who will not follow camp directives on the dress code.


97 posted on 08/07/2012 10:57:27 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Lancey Howard

I doubt the Girl Scouts will take him. The GSUSA is far more discriminatory than the BSA is. The BSA discriminates against the 3% of the population that is gay and the (whatever it is)% of the population that is atheist. The GSUSA discriminates against the 50% of the population that is male. They can’t join at all as youth and they limit them as adults. In the BSA young women ages 13 to 20 can join as youth and there are no limitations on the positions that female adults can hold.


98 posted on 08/07/2012 11:02:39 AM PDT by RonF
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ph


99 posted on 08/07/2012 11:23:50 AM PDT by xone
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