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Obama: On Second Thought, I Will Push For More Gun Control
Townhall.com ^ | July 26, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 07/26/2012 3:57:11 PM PDT by Kaslin

It was just last week when White House Press Secretary Jay Carney stood in front of America and said President Obama would only work to curtail violent crime with "existing" gun laws. This was a response to reporters asking whether the President would pursue new gun control measures after a mad man killed 12 and wounded 58 people sitting unarmed in a gun-free zone theater.

The shooting has thrust the issue of gun control into the national spotlight with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg calling on both presidential candidates to better enforce gun laws on the books and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) calling for a renewal of the assault weapons ban.

In a gaggle aboard Air Force One, en route to Colorado Carney struck a cautious tone, saying the president “believes we need to take steps that protect Second Amendment rights of the American people but that ensure that we are not allowing weapons into the hands of individuals who should not, by existing law, obtain those weapons," according to a White House transcript.

But now, President Obama seems to be taking a different tone. From the Washington Times:

“A lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals,” Mr. Obama said at the annual National Urban League convention in New Orleans. “They belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities.”

“Every day, the number of young people we lose to violence is about the same as the number of people we lost in that movie theater,” Mr. Obama said. “For every Columbine or Virginia Tech, there are dozens gunned down on the streets of Chicago or Atlanta, here in New Orleans.

“We’ve been able to take some actions on our own, recognizing that it’s not always easy to get things through Congress these days,” Mr. Obama said. “The background checks on those looking to purchase firearms are now more thorough and more complete. Instead of just throwing more money at the problem of violence, the federal government is now in the trenches with communities and schools and law enforcement … we’re partnering with local officials to reduce crime using best practices.”

From Reuters:

"We recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation, that hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage," Obama said.
 

First of all, alleged Colorado theater killer James Holmes wasn't using an AK-47. Second, the U.S. military does not use AK-47s either, so I'm not exactly sure which soldiers President Obama was referring to. Third, all law abiding gun owners believe AK-47s shouldn't be in the hands of criminals. Fourth, Obama mentioned Columbine and Virginia Tech, both gun-free campuses where students were left as sitting ducks before they were mowed down. Fifth, the Second Amendment isn't about the American hunting and shooting heritage, it's about the people protecting themselves from the government. Sixth, Obama spoke of pushing gun control without the help of that pesky thing called Congress. On this point he is correct. Last summer the Department of Justice, the same department responsible for funneling 2500 AK-47s and .50 caliber rifles to the Mexican drug cartels (criminals) through Operation Fast and Furious, pushed through a new long gun reporting measure for Southwest border gun dealers in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

Deputy Attorney General James Cole issued the following statement today regarding information requests for multiple sales of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines in select states along the Southwest Border:

“The international expansion and increased violence of transnational criminal networks pose a significant threat to the United States.  Federal, state and foreign law enforcement agencies have determined that certain types of semi-automatic rifles – greater than .22 caliber and with the ability to accept a detachable magazine – are highly sought after by dangerous drug trafficking organizations and frequently recovered at violent crime scenes near the Southwest Border.  This new reporting measure -- tailored to focus only on multiple sales of these types of rifles to the same person within a five-day period -- will improve the ability of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to detect and disrupt the illegal weapons trafficking networks responsible for diverting firearms from lawful commerce to criminals and criminal organizations.  These targeted information requests will occur in Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to help confront the problem of illegal gun trafficking into Mexico and along the Southwest Border.”

If President Obama is serious about reducing "gun" violence, he would embrace concealed carry. Concealed carry has been passed in some form in 49 states, the only state without concealed carry is Illinois where of course seven were killed and 38 were wounded just last weekend in its violence capitol of Chicago (secret: Chicago has very strict gun laws). Not to mention, more people have been killed in Chicago in the past year than in Afghanistan. Ironically, Obama used Chicago as an example of a "gun" violence hot spot during his remarks. Washington D.C. another city with high "gun" crime, also has strict gun laws. The states with concealed carry have seen their crime rates drop.

Nobody wants to see guns in the hands of criminals or the mentally ill. For President Obama to imply those who don't want more restrictions on the right to bear arms do is laughable.

 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2012election; 2ndamendment; ak47; aurora; banglist; batman; election2012; guncontrol; gungrabber; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney
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1 posted on 07/26/2012 3:57:21 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you. *eye roll*


2 posted on 07/26/2012 4:00:56 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Kaslin

This *MIGHT* be okay, as we desperately need more gun control law.

However, to be okay, it would have to be a along the lines of “Every law-abiding non-incarcerated non-gang-member taxpaying citizen shall carry a weapon.”

If zer0 is okay with that, then let’s pass it!


3 posted on 07/26/2012 4:01:18 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: Kaslin
Does anyone remeber I want to say it was in 2010 when the Department of Education bought a bunch of shotguns?
4 posted on 07/26/2012 4:01:30 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Kaslin
Nothing will galvanize and motivate the conservative base more than the specter of Ubama signing an executive order on gun control.

Please, God, make him that stupid and arrogant.

5 posted on 07/26/2012 4:02:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Kaslin

Bammy goes Full Libtard! Go Bammy, GO!

This should be encouraged, as most of America is out buying guns and getting training. Colorado citizens went to the gun stores in droves after the Batman shooting.


6 posted on 07/26/2012 4:02:38 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Kaslin

I see Obama and the Dims losing a few more points if they push this. Deja vu like 1994.


7 posted on 07/26/2012 4:02:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Kaslin

I’m actually glad to hear this. It can only alienate MORE formerly Obama supporters.


8 posted on 07/26/2012 4:02:53 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Kaslin

This is great! This is the best news I have heard in ages. If anything can beat this phoney, this issue can. If he starts talking about gun control, he takes from the other issues. Gun control is hard to lie about without getting caught. If the Republicans are smart, they will tie him up with this issue for the next couple of months and let him make a fool of himself. The Second Amendment is crystle clear about intent. When he tries to attack it, he will show who he really is before the election, not after, and that is just great.


9 posted on 07/26/2012 4:03:56 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Kaslin

Wasn’t ol’ Serpent Head just on the Sunday shows saying precisely NOT to do that? I personally can not STAND CarVile, but he is a pretty right-on when it comes to politics.


10 posted on 07/26/2012 4:05:10 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: fwdude

Agreed. There are many leftists that will not willingly give up their guns. They know their fellow leftards will not hesitate to take them out if the moment happens to call for it.


11 posted on 07/26/2012 4:06:15 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Nothing will galvanize and motivate the conservative base more than the specter of Ubama signing an executive order on gun control.”

A young, male urban black friend who is hard core Liberal/Demoicrap did admit that if his guns (including his favorite FAL he made up custom) were ever outlawed, he would “becomm an outlaw”.

Seems nobody is going to allow themselves to be disarmed.


12 posted on 07/26/2012 4:06:41 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Kaslin

Liberalism is a mental disease.


13 posted on 07/26/2012 4:06:53 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Kaslin

“Obama: On Second Thought, I Will Push For More Gun Control”

You mean like you have with the ATF, DOJ, etc? That’s just what you want—a disarmed public while you and you’re pals are armed.


14 posted on 07/26/2012 4:08:30 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: formosa

Gun control is the admission by the left that human life is worthless. As long as their agenda moves ahead, any number of lives, rights etc are fine to lose. 1+1=2. The numbers are there to back it up. More guns = fewer innocent deaths... and so that would take away a talking point. In fact, the left has reduced innocent life itself to a talking point.

That is the ‘point’ that ‘name’ conservatives with mics and podiums need to get out and harp on. That they will not is their own admission in complicity. Bottom line, they know this and still refuse to say it out of PC fear. Period.


15 posted on 07/26/2012 4:11:47 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kaslin

Here it comes, people.


16 posted on 07/26/2012 4:12:47 PM PDT by Noumenon (I will not pay the Obama jizya.)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
"If the Republicans are smart, they will tie him up with this issue for the next couple of months and let him make a fool of himself. The Second Amendment is crystle clear about intent."

Article II presidential eligibility and the 4 supreme court decisions defining natural born Citizen are also crystal clear. That doesn't stop the republican party from ignoring it.

17 posted on 07/26/2012 4:13:59 PM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Kaslin

Go for it, Obbie! Clinton said that going for gun control was THE issue that brought him down. I’d love to see Obama follow suit.


18 posted on 07/26/2012 4:16:12 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Kaslin

Go for it, Obbie! Clinton said that going for gun control was THE issue that brought him down. I’d love to see Obama follow suit.


19 posted on 07/26/2012 4:16:31 PM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Kaslin

Molon Labe


20 posted on 07/26/2012 4:17:20 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Kaslin
Federal, state and foreign law enforcement agencies have determined that certain types of semi-automatic rifles – greater than .22 caliber and with the ability to accept a detachable magazine – are highly sought after by dangerous drug trafficking organizations and frequently recovered at violent crime scenes near the Southwest Border.

That sure narrows it down for us. Way to go out on a limb, guys.

"We've isolated it to guns that go bang." Great police work there.

21 posted on 07/26/2012 4:18:53 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Kaslin

All Democrats should show their solidarity with Obama, and give up their AK-47s, AR-15s and semi auto pistols, not to mention shotguns. Let the government take them from your limp-wristed hands. That’s the ticket. Don’t forget that revolvers count as repeating fire arms. Pull the trigger, and they go boom. We can’t have leftnuts shooting people or defending themselves. After all, the left created our cultural and criminal problems. The left should face them bravely, unarmed.


22 posted on 07/26/2012 4:19:58 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Kaslin

Great! That will really get a lot of votes. Next, why don’t you make an executive order legalizing child sexual abuse? You can call it the NAMBLA Act. That will be another winner! Go Barack, go!!


23 posted on 07/26/2012 4:20:43 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Kaslin

What a goof! He stumbles all over the place trying to please his fans.


24 posted on 07/26/2012 4:21:00 PM PDT by madison10
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To: FrdmLvr
Wasn’t ol’ Serpent Head just on the Sunday shows saying precisely NOT to do that?

Carville was thinking small - gun control is a bad issue if you're trying to win an election. Obama (or, more likely, Jarrett) is thinking big - this is just the issue to provoke a hot crisis that requires martial law to be imposed before the election.

25 posted on 07/26/2012 4:22:11 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Kaslin
0bama: No No No, I didn't say that, it's the right wing misinterpreting my comments again.
26 posted on 07/26/2012 4:22:45 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Kaslin

Obama can talk to us when he fixes Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, etc.


27 posted on 07/26/2012 4:27:11 PM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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To: funfan

“Does anyone remember I want to say it was in 2010 when the Department of Education bought a bunch of shotguns?”

I Do. I was expecting truancy laws to be federalized and enforced by Dept. of Education SWAT teams.

I don’t recall anybody from the regime ever really explaining those purchases...


28 posted on 07/26/2012 4:28:16 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Paine in the Neck

My powder is dry. Your’s?


29 posted on 07/26/2012 4:30:28 PM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: Kaslin

Then again, maybe not

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2911076/posts


30 posted on 07/26/2012 4:32:05 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Kaslin

Lets start with indicting Holder and Obama et al for passing guns to Mexico resulting in hundreds of deaths...


31 posted on 07/26/2012 4:32:39 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

32 posted on 07/26/2012 4:38:04 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.twitter.com/cafenetamerica)
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To: Kaslin
Y'all making a mistake. Ask Nebuchadnezzar. We have Obama because The LORD has decided that we deserve him. When God figures That he has a mess of very sorrowful and repentant people who will clean up the USA, then He will take these other criminals away. (IMHO)

Time to really pray and cry out to God for His people and their effectiveness.

Don't talk about gun control, call for self-control! seek to be Spirit-controlled! Time to put the heathen in the back of the bus.

33 posted on 07/26/2012 4:39:02 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what He has done for my soul. Ps 66:16)
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To: Kaslin

Katie, When Mitt returns from overseas, could you please spend a few minutes with him, and familiarize him with a few basics about guns and current gun laws?

It would be helpful if he quit sounding ignorant in these areas!


34 posted on 07/26/2012 4:39:15 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My thoughts exactly: no one knows how to whip up the Republican base better than Commandante Zero.


35 posted on 07/26/2012 4:42:03 PM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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36 posted on 07/26/2012 4:48:43 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: imardmd1

Close but no cigar....

America has abused it’s gifts and freedoms and we will now endure the loss of both.

There will be no “clean up” from within.
There will be no repentance.

The faithful will have to endure, but they will not prevail in this life.
“Time to Pray”?
Certainly, but do not expect to be rewarded with Heaven on Earth.


37 posted on 07/26/2012 4:48:59 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: Kaslin
A lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals...

Just what kind of soldiers is he referring to? Our military doesn't use these, only his muslim brothers do!
38 posted on 07/26/2012 4:50:50 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Guilty but not prosecuted? Sounds like a liberal to me.)
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To: Kaslin

That’ll make him much easier to defeat.
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39 posted on 07/26/2012 4:55:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Kaslin

Doesn’t Hillary appear before the U.N. tomorrow to present the Small Arms Treaty?


40 posted on 07/26/2012 4:56:51 PM PDT by Humal
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To: Kaslin
(Art., quoting Obama)...the federal government is now in the trenches with communities and schools and law enforcement … we’re partnering with local officials to reduce crime using best practices.”

Actually, this practice violates the federal models. There is no role for the federal government in funding, leading, driving, or otherwise directing municipal government.

Municipalities are subdivisions of the State, and the State is supreme within its sphere. This practice of using federal tax grants to "buy in" to local policymaking and policy execution is actually a total violation of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Lyndon Johnson was the principal offender here. He began using the U.S. Treasury the way that liberal foundation board members had been using targeted, renewable, conditional, marginal grants of foundation money to get the attention, and then the obedience, of local politicians under the noses of their (unacceptably conservative/whatever) States.

It is actually subornation, and ultra vires the federal government.

41 posted on 07/26/2012 5:05:00 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Humal

I can’t find anything on it


42 posted on 07/26/2012 5:13:07 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Humal

Two people who espouse gun control right down the line:

Hillary Clinton
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Gun_Control.htm

“[Global Weapons Ban] Drop Your Weapon: Hillary Clinton Jumpstarts UN Arms Ban, Treaty Back On Track “
May 20, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzPohbDAu00

Obama
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm

“FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban

Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, “No, my writing wasn’t on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns.”

“Actually, Obama’s writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:

35. Do you support state legislation to:
a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.

Obama’s campaign said, “Sen. Obama didn’t fill out these state Senate questionnaires—a staffer did—and there are several answers that didn’t reflect his views then or now. He may have jotted some notes on the front page of the questionnaire, but some answers didn’t reflect his views.”

Source: FactCheck.org analysis of 2008 Philadelphia primary debate Apr 16, 2008


43 posted on 07/26/2012 5:17:13 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Kaslin
do I really have to say it???

44 posted on 07/26/2012 5:18:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: freebird5850
A lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals...

Just what kind of soldiers is he referring to? Our military doesn't use these, only his muslim brothers do!

And of course Communists, terrorists, tyrants and drug lords worldwide.

Isn't it interesting how President Obama thinks it is better for AK-47s to be in the hands of the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, the NVA, the Somalians, Hezbollah, Hamas, and assorted other groups all of whom have or are using them to try to kill Americans, than in the hands of criminals, who in large part just use their AK-47s to fight each other.

45 posted on 07/26/2012 5:20:23 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: C210N

The only gun control we need involves more range time.


46 posted on 07/26/2012 5:25:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Please, God, make him that stupid and arrogant."

He is that arrogant, but what scares me is he really isn't THAT stupid - maybe he "knows" something about this upcoming election, like maybe it doesn't happen at all.
He is pulling out all of the loony-lefty stops, and doesn't seem to care if it drives his poll numbers down.....

47 posted on 07/26/2012 5:50:34 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Kaslin

What would you do if you woke up one morning and turned on the news and heard that the President signed a UN treaty outlawing the private ownership of firearms in the United States. What would you do if you had a brother,sister or father or grandfather that was an avid gun owner and the UN or local police took them away for the fact that they owned fire arms and refused to give them up? Well when you wake up tomorrow morning the 27th of July 2012 The President will have most likely signed that treaty. And we are one step closer to being a dictatorship.
Let us all not forget history. Germany first act of Adolph Hitler ban gun ownership, 6 millions jews killed, 50 million people killed in WW2. Stalin no one was armed in the Soviet Union, 20 million Ukrainians dead. Mao 100 million Chinese killed. Ect ect. (Those that forget the Past are bound to repeat it). Molon Labe (come and take it)!


48 posted on 07/26/2012 5:55:37 PM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: Norm Lenhart
As long as their agenda moves ahead, any number of lives, rights etc are fine to lose.

Ayers postulated that a significant portion of the U.S. population would have to be offed for his socialist utopia to take root. Can’t remember if it was 25,000,000 or 25%. Either way, a boatload or two. Consider that most of his targeted population probably have some riflecraft background and equipment on hand, the final number might be a bit higher.

49 posted on 07/26/2012 6:38:21 PM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned is better than the alternative.)
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To: Billthedrill

No mention that the greatest supplier of these weapons is our own DOJ ala Fast & Furious.


50 posted on 07/26/2012 7:30:21 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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