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Two Bexar County K-9s dead after night left inside hot cruiser
kens5 ^ | Posted on July 26, 2012 | by Brian New & Kens5.com staff

Posted on 07/27/2012 5:41:17 AM PDT by chessplayer

SAN ANTONIO -- The Bexar County Sheriff's Department says two of its K-9s have died after they were left inside a patrol vehicle overnight.

According to a statement from the Sheriff's Office, the dogs were "inadvertently" left inside the vehicle overnight and died from apparent heat exposure.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: k9; sanantonio
How the hell does someone "inadvertently" forget about 2 large dogs like that? Didn't they notice the dogs kennel was empty? Crap like this really pisses me off. Every summer idiots leave their dogs in their sweltering vehicles. What a horrible, torturous death for those poor dogs. That cop needs a baseball bat up side his head.
1 posted on 07/27/2012 5:41:22 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

The guy responsible for the dogs probably had been drinking or got into the evidence room or both...


2 posted on 07/27/2012 5:46:56 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: chessplayer

No, He needs to be Arrested and Charged with 2nd Degree Murder of a Peace Officer, just like ANYONE ELSE WOULD BE if they KILLED A POLICE DOG regardless of the circumstances.


3 posted on 07/27/2012 5:47:37 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: chessplayer

A couple badges need to be surrendered, along with their pensions.


4 posted on 07/27/2012 5:48:14 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: maine yankee

So sad and so senseless. How stupid do you have to be to allow this to happen?


5 posted on 07/27/2012 5:51:16 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: chessplayer

Those responsible need a Felony conviction and loss of gun “rights”.


6 posted on 07/27/2012 5:53:14 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: chessplayer
The Division of Professional Standards and Integrity is headed by Chief Roger Dovalina.

rdovalina@Bexar.org

The Kenyan must go.

7 posted on 07/27/2012 5:53:24 AM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

According to the statement, Benoy is “completely devastated by the tragic accident.”


Devastated my butt. When something like this happens it shows the dogs owner actually doesn’t much care for the dog. Otherwise they wouldn’t “forget” about them.


8 posted on 07/27/2012 5:55:05 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Hopefully, his wife won’t allow him to transport their children anywhere in the summer.


9 posted on 07/27/2012 5:57:36 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: eyeamok

Yup. Haven’t we been told all along that a police dog is an “officer” and the consequences for harming one are the same as harming a patrolman or trooper?

What consequence would result from an officer locking a partner in a cruiser in summer heat until he died? Manslaughter at least.

But, they’re cops. Killing dogs is in their DNA, apparently.


10 posted on 07/27/2012 6:05:13 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: chessplayer

Gosh, sounds like involuntary manslaughter of a police officer to me. So...will the morons who left their PARTNERS in the car be fired, arrested and charged with their killings??

Time to prove that the cops are not above the law.


11 posted on 07/27/2012 6:17:23 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: chessplayer; FLAMING DEATH; eyeamok; txrefugee
No, He needs to be Arrested and Charged with 2nd Degree Murder of a Peace Officer, just like ANYONE ELSE WOULD BE if they KILLED A POLICE DOG regardless of the circumstances.

A couple badges need to be surrendered, along with their pensions.

Haven’t we been told all along that a police dog is an “officer” and the consequences for harming one are the same as harming a patrolman or trooper?


As a police officer who works at a department with a K-9 officer I agree on all those assessments.
The officer(s) responsible need to be given the harshest punishments.....experience the harshest consequences. I truly hope that happens......but unfortunately I doubt it will.
I find it incredulous that a department could afford 2 K-9's yet couldn't afford the automatic thermometer system that should should be installed in all K-9 cruisers. Our K-9 cruiser has it, it constantly monitors the temperature and if it gets too hot it sends an alarm to the police officer, if the officer doesn't respond it pops the door.
Nonetheless, what a tragic unnecessary pair of deaths that are truly nothing short of murder, due to criminal negligence.
12 posted on 07/27/2012 6:20:07 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: chessplayer

This criminal should die from lead poisoning.


13 posted on 07/27/2012 6:38:38 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: mosaicwolf

On top of the obvious ethical problems, trained dogs cost the department $6000 apiece.


14 posted on 07/27/2012 6:42:56 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: chessplayer

If the dogs had barked, one of the deputies might have at least shot them. /s


15 posted on 07/27/2012 6:48:03 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Paladin2

Seems like he considered the dogs as nothing more than a piece of equipment,,,like his badge or nightstick. And at the end, those poor dogs were probably calling out to their “friend” for help.


16 posted on 07/27/2012 6:54:02 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: brent13a
Nonetheless, what a tragic unnecessary pair of deaths that are truly nothing short of murder, due to criminal negligence.

You have expressed your opinion. Allow me to express mine.

It's a dog. NOT a human. Therefore it is NOT murder. It is perhaps animal negligence, maybe even animal cruelty. But it is NOT murder.

Haven’t we been told all along that a police dog is an “officer” and the consequences for harming one are the same as harming a patrolman or trooper?

Hmm, never heard that put in quite the same language. I understand your particular feelings for the animals, and I appreciate the bond that forms between the officer and his dog. But that doesn't change the fact that this is a dog, not a human.
The definition of murder:
Unlawful
killing
of a human
by another human
with malice aforethought.

I think it is dangerous to use terms that inflame or incite those in an attempt to manipulate the act and the punishment that may be meted out.

It is a shame when two valuable resources of law enforcement are lost. I am saddened when a expensive police helicopter is lost or damaged in a crash. But murder? IMHO, this is not a murder. It is a loss of a valuable resource, and should be addressed and punished appropriately.

17 posted on 07/27/2012 7:01:47 AM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: chessplayer

Apparently no dog is safe from the police- not even their own....


18 posted on 07/27/2012 7:08:25 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: China Clipper
It's a dog. NOT a human. Therefore it is NOT murder. It is perhaps animal negligence, maybe even animal cruelty. But it is NOT murder.

It is a shame when two valuable resources of law enforcement are lost. I am saddened when a expensive police helicopter is lost or damaged in a crash. But murder? IMHO, this is not a murder. It is a loss of a valuable resource, and should be addressed and punished appropriately.


So you've never heard of the laws that charge a criminal with battery/murder should they shoot or stab or otherwise kill a k-9 police dog?
I guess you need to start making some phone calls to your legislators to get those laws repealed.

It's a dog. NOT a human. Therefore it is NOT murder.

You're opinion would probably impress most "pro-choice" people and make them happy to hear you utilize one of their memes.

The last time I checked a "police helicopter" doesn't learn, think, feel pain, breath, eat, drink.....etc. So you're equation of one "tool" to the other is most definitley your "opinion". But then again, those are the traits that pro-choice people like to say babies in the womb don't have either.
19 posted on 07/27/2012 7:21:23 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: China Clipper
"Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!"

When did you stop eating dogs?

20 posted on 07/27/2012 7:28:01 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: China Clipper
Based on your "opinion" as well as your tag line, I'd say you may want to go ahead and start working on getting all animal cruelty laws repealed so you and Michael Vick and open up a nice little dogfighting ring and make some good money with your "tools and resources".
21 posted on 07/27/2012 7:30:48 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: chessplayer
This is very sad. Those dogs rely on their owners for food and protection and were
sitting there dying, panting, and waiting for their master to come and save
them from the heat.

Dogs and pets are at our mercy which deserves special attention for their safety.
Will the officer be brought up on murder charges for killing two fellow police officers?

22 posted on 07/27/2012 7:36:35 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: chessplayer

“... he considered the dogs as nothing more than a piece of equipment”.

Makes me think what type of person would do this. The dogs were trained to protect him... give their life for him if necessary. Their death was nothing short of agony. IMHO, the cop should lose his job. If he was this irresponsible... why does he deserve a badge? The cop was given the opportunity to be a K9 officer and cost the taxpayers a lot of money (added to pain and suffering the dogs went through). Just my two cents...


23 posted on 07/27/2012 7:41:02 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: brent13a
So you've never heard of the laws that charge a criminal with battery/murder should they shoot or stab or otherwise kill a k-9 police dog?
I guess you need to start making some phone calls to your legislators to get those laws repealed.

Nope. Never have. And I do NOT support them. Battery maybe. But sorry, NOT murder. JMHO though.

You're opinion would probably impress most "pro-choice" people and make them happy to hear you utilize one of their memes.

Wow! Attack! It's OK, I expected it. Nope, not "pro-choice" at all. In fact, I am very much "pro-life". For PEOPLE!!! I don't anthropomorphise animals, or trains, or helicopters. OK, maybe a little bit with some machines, but never animals. Read my tagline.

The last time I checked a "police helicopter" doesn't learn, think, feel pain, breath, eat, drink.....etc. So you're equation of one "tool" to the other is most definitley your "opinion". But then again, those are the traits that pro-choice people like to say babies in the womb don't have either.

Hmm; Touche. But it (a helicopter) is a valuable resource, and incredibly fascinating to me. And infinitely more harder to replace from a financial standpoint. But a dog is a living being, I understand that. I just don't share your incredible defense of an animal. That's OK! We just have different opinions on what is important to us.

BTW, I have very specific ideas about people and especially babies in the womb, etc. I would defend their rights the same way I would (and do) defend any helpless HUMAN.

I know many people have strong feelings about dogs. (and cats, horses, chickens etc.) I do not wish or cause any undo harm or abuse to animals. I just don't share your feelings. That's OK too!

24 posted on 07/27/2012 7:51:16 AM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: China Clipper; brent13a
So you've never heard of the laws that charge a criminal with battery/murder should they shoot or stab or otherwise kill a k-9 police dog?
I guess you need to start making some phone calls to your legislators to get those laws repealed.


Nope. Never have. And I do NOT support them. Battery maybe. But sorry, NOT murder. JMHO though.


I'm gonna have to agree/disagree with both of you here. Dogs aren't humans. They shouldn't rise to the same level of crime when committed against a canine versus a human.

That being said, the issue arises where you have a double standard between police and the citizenry. If you happen to kill a K9, you will most likely be charged with murder, manslaughter, etc. of a police officer. They charge you the same as if you killed an actual cop. Therefore, the officer responsible for two tortuous deaths here should be held to the same standard, and charged with, at the least, negligent manslaughter of an officer. Just because an officer committed it doesn't mean the dogs should be considered mere tools when they're given a much higher status for the same situation for the rest of us.
25 posted on 07/27/2012 8:14:03 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: chessplayer

Aside from the dogs cruel deaths that is 20-30 thousand dollars flushed down the toilet by some idiot cop. It costs that much to buy and properly train these breeds


26 posted on 07/27/2012 8:36:56 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: China Clipper

It’s a dog. NOT a human. Therefore it is NOT murder. It is perhaps animal negligence, maybe even animal cruelty.


PERHAPS negligence? Wow.


27 posted on 07/27/2012 8:40:17 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: eyeamok

+1


28 posted on 07/27/2012 8:43:48 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: brent13a

I find it incredulous that a department could afford 2 K-9’s yet couldn’t afford the automatic thermometer system that should should be installed in all K-9 cruisers. Our K-9 cruiser has it, it constantly monitors the temperature and if it gets too hot it sends an alarm to the police officer, if the officer doesn’t respond it pops the door.
Nonetheless, what a tragic unnecessary pair of deaths that are truly nothing short of murder, due to criminal negligence.


Thanks. I didn’t know K-9 cruisers could have those installed. And you are right. If a dept. can afford a K-9 unit, they should certainly been able to afford a thermometer. It would have saved these two dogs lives. It should be a requirement that all departments with K-9 units have those type of thermometers installed. Happy to hear your department has them.


29 posted on 07/27/2012 8:54:45 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: MaxMax

Here is what those poor dogs went through.

“A matter of minutes, five or 10 minutes” is all it takes on a hot day for a dog to wind up organ-damaged or dead, Messonnier says.

“Here’s how it progresses: First, the dog pants hard, trying the only way it can to cool off. As the temperature rises and the dog realizes it’s in trouble, it becomes frantic, tries to get out, scratching at windows or digging at the seat or floor. It’s an awful moment, the dog’s moment of realization. “If you want to compare it to humans,” says Messonnier, “it would be this: The person is too hot, stifling, feeling trapped. But a person knows things can be done,” like smashing a window or blowing the horn for help. Dogs, of course, panic, since they can devise no strategies other than digging desperately. They often bloody themselves in this effort to survive. Some have heart attacks.”

“The panic doesn’t last long. Very quickly the dog goes prostrate, begins vomiting, having diarrhea and lapsing into unconsciousness. Organs are disintegrating. “All organs function properly within a certain temperature range, and when body temperature reaches a certain level, organ cells begin dying. There’s inflammation, white blood cells rush in … a cascade of things happens in minutes,” he says. Liver, brain, kidneys are dying.”

“When you do an autopsy on a dog that died this way, the organs are soupy.”

http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/pettalk/2009-07-14-dogs-in-hot-cars_N.htm

Even if caught “in time,” the dog may have permanent kidney and liver damage. Hard to think of a more horrible way to die.


30 posted on 07/27/2012 9:18:25 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: brent13a

Unlike fetuses, dogs never become human. So the argument that dogs aren’t human and therefore shouldn’t be allotted the same level of legal protection stands to reason. Otherwise we risk abusing the rights of humans where crimes against animals occur.


31 posted on 07/27/2012 9:37:15 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: eyeamok

That is how I see it also.


32 posted on 07/27/2012 10:13:08 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Svartalfiar

Well put. If anything, a trained dog handler should probably be held to an even higher standard than your average thug who kills a K9.


33 posted on 07/27/2012 10:20:47 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: chessplayer
Unlike the Bexar County deputy, around here the police have ways of covering it up so the negligence is not so obvious. An officer here has done this not once, but twice. The first time the incident was unreported but the second time he brought the unconscious dog by my clinic at noon and I was at lunch so he ran it over to another in town where the vet hadn't left for lunch. The dog died from the heat exhaustion but the official cause of death pronounced by the vet was heart failure. The vet is a political and social friend of many of the officers. Yes, after a dog is cooked thoroughly in a hot car the heart does fail...ya' think? The police officer has since ran for chief and other offices and is now a police chief in an adjacent township.
34 posted on 07/27/2012 10:52:50 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: chessplayer

The average cop has 2 guns and 80 IQ points.


35 posted on 07/27/2012 10:55:41 AM PDT by Reeses (Sustainable energy? Let's first have sustainable government.)
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To: Crucial

Otherwise we risk abusing the rights of humans where crimes against animals occur.


How would punishing a Michael Vick for what he did be an abuse of human rights?


36 posted on 07/27/2012 4:46:24 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: MaxMax

Well, I hope those dogs are safe in Heaven, now. Yes, I’m one of those that believes God takes animals into Heaven.


37 posted on 07/27/2012 4:54:40 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

As always the severity of the crime plays a role. The severity must be weighed against the worth of the one accused. If Vick as a human being was worth the same a any dog he may have executed, he would have surely been executed himself. As much as I despise Vick as a human being, that would have been a miscarriage of justice.


38 posted on 07/28/2012 12:06:52 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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