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Romney Comments on Palestinians Draw Criticism
New York Times ^ | July 30, 2012 | ASHLEY PARKER

Posted on 07/30/2012 9:39:50 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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Speaking to roughly four dozen donors at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, Mr. Romney suggested that cultural differences between the Israelis and the Palestinians were the reason the Israelis were so much more economically successful than the Palestinians. He also vastly understated the income disparities between the two groups.

In his speech, Mr. Romney mentioned two books that had influenced his thinking about nations — “Guns, Germs and Steel,” by Jared Diamond, and “The Wealth and Poverty of Nations,” by David S. Landes. Mr. Diamond’s book, Mr. Romney said, argues that the physical characteristics of the land account for the success of the people living there, while Mr. Landes’s book, he continued, argues that culture is the defining factor.

“Culture makes all the difference,” Mr. Romney said. “And as I come here and I look out over this city and consider the accomplishments of the people of this nation, I recognize the power of at least culture and a few other things.”

“As you come here and you see the G.D.P. per capita, for instance, in Israel which is about $21,000, and compare that with the G.D.P. per capita just across the areas managed by the Palestinian Authority, which is more like $10,000 per capita, you notice such a dramatically stark difference in economic vitality,” he said.

In an interview with the Associated Press, Saeb Erekat, a senior aide to President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, called Mr. Romney’s remarks “racist.”

“It is a racist statement and this man doesn’t realize that the Palestinian economy cannot reach its potential because there is an Israeli occupation,” Mr. Erekat said. “It seems to me this man lacks information, knowledge, vision and understanding of this region and its people.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: israel; palestinians; romney
Romney is right. A "culture" built around hating Jews and blaming them for all your problems does not make you productive. A similar statement holds for American minorities who blame whites.
1 posted on 07/30/2012 9:39:53 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

I don’t understand how a “wimp” is constantly saying “controversial” things.


2 posted on 07/30/2012 9:46:09 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: reaganaut1
A culture that teaches their children the engineering necessary to build a bridge or a building will have economic success.

A culture that teaches their children the engineering necessary to BLOW up a bridge or a building will not have nearly the same economic success.

There is nothing racist about pointing that out either.

3 posted on 07/30/2012 9:48:47 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: reaganaut1
the Palestinian economy cannot reach its potential because there is an Israeli occupation embezzlement of foreign aid, nepotism, envy, and protection rackets occupying the economic life of the people instead of actual trade.

(Adjusted for truth.)

4 posted on 07/30/2012 9:49:44 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: reaganaut1

What would godless Romney know about the covenant the Jews are under - Abraham’s descendants. The power is GOD.

Acts 3:25 And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.


5 posted on 07/30/2012 9:55:49 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Strategerist

Romney speaks the truth and the Pali’s get their poor little feelings hurt.

Tough sh*t boys and if Romney gets elected I hope you get to see the back of his hand many more times.


6 posted on 07/30/2012 10:04:16 AM PDT by technically right
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To: reaganaut1

“The comments Monday are the second time that Mr. Romney has unwittingly offended a group of people in a part of the world he was visiting.”

Maybe. Maybe not.


7 posted on 07/30/2012 10:18:01 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: reaganaut1
Israeli contributions:
Cell phones (Motorola Israel), firewall software, Windows NT, voicemail, VOIP, USB flash drives, instant messaging (ICQ), nanowires, micro-cameras used on laptops and tablets, #1 drugs for Parkinsons and Multiple Sclerosis, "pill cam" for internal viewing of GI tract, incredible weapons including the APAM round (FutureWeapons clip), Uzi, Iron Dome, Arrow, Python, unammaned aerial vehicles or drones, and on and on.

'Palestinian' contributions:
Hijacking

8 posted on 07/30/2012 10:23:41 AM PDT by montag813
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To: reaganaut1
So... I guess the Palinistas won't be voting for Romney this time out.

Big surprise, that.

9 posted on 07/30/2012 10:25:15 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: rightwingcrazy
“The comments Monday are the second time that Mr. Romney has unwittingly offended a group of people in a part of the world he was visiting.”

LMAO. The whole point of these trips is to offend the right people.

The NY Times can go to hell.

10 posted on 07/30/2012 10:31:56 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: montag813
You aren't being entirely fair to the Palestinians. They also produced two notable historians. To be sure, they both date to the pre-Islamic era. I'm referring to Eusebius of Caesarea and Procopius of Caesarea.

Procopius' depiction of Justinian and Theodora in his Secret History has some remarkable parallels to Bill and Hillary Clinton.

11 posted on 07/30/2012 10:38:58 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: rightwingcrazy

If one of the groups of people is the British that Romney offended, maybe the Brits running the Olympics would have fared better if they had listened to Mr. Romney’s suggestions about running the Olympics. The recent news today from England would indicate that there are many many empty spectator seats for watching the contests. I think Romney could have helped them but they were too proud or too whatever to listen to him.


12 posted on 07/30/2012 11:53:54 AM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: rightwingcrazy

If one of the groups of people is the British that Romney offended, maybe the Brits running the Olympics would have fared better if they had listened to Mr. Romney’s suggestions about running the Olympics. The recent news today from England would indicate that there are many many empty spectator seats for watching the contests. I think Romney could have helped them but they were too proud or too whatever to listen to him.


13 posted on 07/30/2012 11:56:24 AM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: reaganaut1
In an interview with the Associated Press, Saeb Erekat, a senior aide to President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, called Mr. Romney’s remarks “racist.” “It is a racist statement and this man doesn’t realize that the Palestinian economy cannot reach its potential because there is an Israeli occupation,” Mr. Erekat said. “It seems to me this man lacks information, knowledge, vision and understanding of this region and its people.”

"Racist" is an odd term coming from a group of people who claim that Jews are the offspring of pigs and monkeys.

14 posted on 07/30/2012 1:04:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

——bit of a fine point , I suppose, but if those two guys were Caesareans then they weren’t actually Palestinians, anyway. And they didn’t write any books on cheap-ass short range rockets.

I still remember the Gaza’s wanting to succeed so much that they used their brand new international airport as a launch site for rockets to Israel. So the Israelis made them start over. And I think the Israelis should annex a new section of Arab land, without any Arabs on it, for each rocket the dummies shoot at Israel. Put a serious price tag on Arab ignorance, as with the Golan Heights.


15 posted on 07/30/2012 1:35:24 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: reaganaut1

All Palestinians export is terrorism, does not pay well.

Palestinians take their kids out of school usually around grade six to help work the fields. Israeli’s value sending their children to college.

Jews fight to protect life, Palestinians strap explosives on their own children to cause as much death as possible.

You cant find a street sign in the Gaza strip, the palestinians cut them all down to use the pipes for bombs.

In Jerusalem the street signs are in english, hebrew and arabic.

Engineers get paid more than construction laborers around the world, its not racial everywhere else but Israel!

Yeah, Mitt is exactly right.

And the ones who yell racism the loudest are always the racists.


16 posted on 07/30/2012 1:58:09 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: reaganaut1

By the way, the figures he is quoting are the figures PRE Carter Peace talks. It stood 21k to 10k then. Now the the Arabs have their own Goobermint, it stands 24k to 2k.

Yeah, Carter and the State Department really helped those poor Arabs all right. Fixed them but good.


17 posted on 07/30/2012 2:00:35 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
So... I guess the Palinistas won't be voting for Romney this time out.

No, they will vote for the Muslim.

18 posted on 07/30/2012 2:02:17 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: reaganaut1
Saeb Erekatcalled Mr. Romney’s remarks “racist.”

IDIOT!

Many Jews and "Palestinians" are actual cousins, cut from the same DNA cloth. Culture does not equal race.

19 posted on 07/30/2012 2:07:57 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: reaganaut1

Israel should offer to buy the Sinai from Egypt, every thing east of the Suez canal. Also enter into a two state agreement with Jordan. Give that new nation two decades and they would be a first world power


20 posted on 07/30/2012 2:32:08 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse (RNC) will learn to sing)
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To: montag813

‘Palestinian’ contributions:
Hijacking
Suicide vests.
Bus bombings


21 posted on 07/30/2012 2:35:20 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: allmendream

Idiots like the Palistineans and the American Democraps love to wield the race card.

But in many cases it’s not about RACISM - it’s about CULTURALISM.

For example, I don’t happen to be racist against American blacks and treat them the same as anyone else when I meet them. HOWEVER, there are many things I truly despise about American Black CULTURE (Hateful rap music, deadbeat dads, violence, racial snobbery and victimhood hand in hand).

And laziness. Yes, laziness. When I see how hard other minorities work, like Mexican laborers here in California and then you see an inner city Black punk, sayin’ “I can’t get me no job.” In general American blacks have a culture of entitlement and that entitlement has bred a culture of abject laziness.

So people can call me a “CULTURIST,” but not a “RACIST.”

It’s important for conservatives to change the language of debate and this concept of apologetically stating, I’m not racist, I’m culturist” - will be effective.


22 posted on 07/30/2012 6:27:03 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
If "Palestinian" is taken to mean all non-Jews living in the area between the Jordan River/Dead Sea and the Mediterranean as of 1917 and their descendants (mostly Arabic-speaking but some Armenians, Circassians and perhaps others), they are probably a mix of all the populations which have lived in the area since antiquity--Canaanites, Philistines (immigrants from the Aegean?), Israelites, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Crusaders, etc. The Christian population of Palestine in the late Roman period was probably partly descended from Jews who had converted.

Even if the Arabs imposed their language, it doesn't necessarily involve a large influx of people from Arabia--compare how the Spanish language took hold in parts of Latin America where the Spanish colonists were outnumbered by the indigenous population.

So DNA studies should show some kinship between Israeli Jews and at least some of the Palestinian Arabs.

23 posted on 07/30/2012 8:38:36 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

A Jewish girl who had lived there told me as much.

She said, “It’s ridiculous, we’re all Palestinians...it’s a place.”


24 posted on 07/30/2012 8:45:21 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Armenians, Circassians...Canaanites, Philistines ...Israelites, Greeks, Romans, Arabs...Jews who had converted...people from Arabia

Yassar Arafat was an Egyptian.

25 posted on 07/31/2012 2:39:35 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Arafat was born in Cairo but at least according to Wikipedia, his father was from Gaza and his mother from Jerusalem and he spent part of his childhood in Jerusalem with members of her family. His father’s mother was Egyptian.


26 posted on 07/31/2012 8:03:11 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: reaganaut1

How we got here....http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-really-happened.html


27 posted on 07/31/2012 8:08:29 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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