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Olympics: 16-year-old Ye Shiwen’s swim 'impossible’, says coach John Leonard [doping claim]
The Telegraph ^ | 7/30/2012 | Jeremy Wilson

Posted on 07/31/2012 12:48:23 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

One of the world’s most senior swimming coaches has raised serious doubts about the validity of the “unbelievable” performance of Ye Shiwen, the 16-year-old Chinese swimmer.

John Leonard, the executive director of the World Swimming Coaches Association, yesterday compared Ye’s winning performance in the women’s 400m individual medley to Irish swimmer Michelle Smith, who won gold in the same event at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics but was banned from swimming for four years in 1998 for tampering with a urine sample. Smith, now De Bruin, always denied using performance enhancing drugs.

Ye sent shock waves through her sport on Saturday when she set the first swimming world record of these Olympics, and in doing so swam the final 50m freestyle faster than American swimmer Ryan Lochte managed in his final leg when he won the same race in the men’s event.

“We want to be very careful about calling it doping,” Leonard said.

“The one thing I will say is that history in our sport will tell you that every time we see something, and I will put quotation marks around this, 'unbelievable’, history shows us that it turns out later on there was doping involved. That last 100m was reminiscent of some old East German swimmers, for people who have been around a while. It was reminiscent of 400m individual medley by a young Irish woman in Atlanta.

“Any time someone has looked like superwoman in the history of our sport they have later been found guilty of doping”. Ye was more than seven seconds faster in the 400m individual medley than she had been in the equivalent race of the World Championships last year. While Leonard accepted that such improvement was feasible, he described the final 100m as “impossible”. He added: “To swim three

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KEYWORDS: 2012olympics; olympics; swimming; yeshiwen
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1 posted on 07/31/2012 12:48:35 AM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

sound like a sore loser


2 posted on 07/31/2012 12:52:00 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

Sounds like a realist.


3 posted on 07/31/2012 12:54:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: bruinbirdman

No way she made an extraordinary improvement that bested the world champion by seconds.

On the other hand she will probably make a fine living at arm wrestling but, soon will have to Shave that unfortunate mug.


4 posted on 07/31/2012 12:56:19 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: bruinbirdman

She could probably medal in the fugly olympics too.


5 posted on 07/31/2012 1:02:33 AM PDT by Bullish (Liars aren't always thieves but thieves are ALWAYS liars)
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To: 4rcane

Actually China has a history of bending the rules and stuff. The North Korean Women’s soccer team is allowed to play for some reason, even though suspended from international competition for doping.

go figure


6 posted on 07/31/2012 1:02:40 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Vendome

She can get tips from the Press sisters.

http://www.yourememberthat.com/media/7802/Press_Sisters_Gender_Controversy/


7 posted on 07/31/2012 1:03:40 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Chinese Bath Salts


8 posted on 07/31/2012 1:04:59 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: bruinbirdman

Bah, just make this the final Olympics!
Enough already.

So far as I am concerned they really ended they day it was decided to allow pro-athletes in.

Once that standard was breached, we may as well allow any and all means of enhancing the results.

Bring on the cyborgs!


9 posted on 07/31/2012 1:07:12 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: 4rcane

To swim three 100m strokes at near-record pace... and THEN swim a final 100m in 59 sec, MATCHING Ryan Lochte’s split for that same leg of the 400 IM (58.6)... when she is 16... and female... and swam the same race last year SEVEN seconds slower. This is an event where 4 seconds separate 1st from 8th place in most pools. Sorry. To tie the top male swimmer in the world on a split, when she is an unheralded and previously unremarkable swimmer? It defies credulity.


10 posted on 07/31/2012 1:08:15 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: bruinbirdman
100 meters in 58 seconds after having just swum 300 meters? A 16-year-old girl?

Holy cow.

11 posted on 07/31/2012 1:08:32 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Vendome
"No way she made an extraordinary improvement that bested the world champion by seconds."

In 1968 Bob Beaman broke the world long jump record by nearly 2 feet (1 ft. 10 in.). He beat the record by about 7%.

yitbos

12 posted on 07/31/2012 1:13:22 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: 4rcane
Chinese swimming has such a shameful history of doping that any remarkable achievement by one of its athletes is inevitably met with cynicism. In the 1990s more than 40 swimmers tested positive for doping.

In the 1994 world swimming championships, China won an improbable 12 gold medals and later that year seven swimmers tested positive for steroids at the Asian Games. At the following Olympics in Atlanta in 1996, they won just one gold.

Likely the Chinese have simply learned how to beat the doping tests.

13 posted on 07/31/2012 1:15:33 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: FreedomPoster

The other possibility is the bell curve. China is only beginning to exploit their population for athletic development in an organized way. Their population is really big.

Olympic athletes come from the far right side of the Bell Curve. The population of people out there is much bigger in a population of 2 billion than it is in a population of 300,000,000. And the odds of producing someone really really far out there is greater.

China will eventually dominate all sports events if it stays together as a political entity and if it continues to do a good job identifying freakishly gifted athletes at a young age and training them.


14 posted on 07/31/2012 1:15:59 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: bruinbirdman

“I no doping!” “Bath Salts ONLY!” “Ima eat you”


15 posted on 07/31/2012 1:18:37 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Teacher317

In my experience lying, cheating , and stealing are not dishonorable in Asian culture.
But getting caught is.

Her doping will be Chinese government administered.


16 posted on 07/31/2012 1:20:10 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: ModelBreaker

Oh, Please! the commies have no respect for human life. they use their ahletes as lab experiments just like the East Germans and Russia did in the past
Because of the enhanced hormone manipulation
she/it will grow into a grotesque creature when she matures and will die from some form of cancer early in life.


17 posted on 07/31/2012 1:43:32 AM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: ModelBreaker

Oh, Please! the commies have no respect for human life. they use their athletes as lab experiments just like the East Germans and Russia did in the past
Because of the enhanced hormone manipulation
she/it will grow into a grotesque creature when she matures and will die from some form of cancer early in life.


18 posted on 07/31/2012 1:43:46 AM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: 4rcane
I disagree. I would put nothing past the Chinese government, which has a history of cheating (in addition to suppression of its citizens, murder of infant girls, etc.) This coach, John Leonard, was very detailed in elucidating why he thinks doping was involved. I don't get the impression he is motivated by resentment.

I believe this athlete was doping.

19 posted on 07/31/2012 1:59:53 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Teacher317

“Likely the Chinese have simply learned how to beat the doping tests.”

You got it.


20 posted on 07/31/2012 2:02:01 AM PDT by utahagen
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