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Michael Tomasky on the (Possible) Coming Obama Landslide
The Daily Beast ^ | Aug 4, 2012 | Michael Tomasky

Posted on 08/04/2012 11:56:32 PM PDT by Innovative

Liberals don't want to jinx it. It terrifies the right. And the press would prefer a nail-biter. But the fact is that finding Romney's path to victory is getting harder every day.

There's a secret lurking behind everything you're reading about the upcoming election, a secret that all political insiders know—or should—but few are talking about, most likely because it takes the drama out of the whole business. The secret is the electoral college, and the fact is that the more you look at it, the more you come to conclude that Mitt Romney has to draw an inside straight like you've never ever seen in a movie to win this thing. This is especially true now that it seems as if Pennsylvania isn't really up for grabs. Romney's paths to 270 are few.

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To: okie01

No, he is upset with the system, corrupt as it is! Sorry for jumping in here, but I also think that the political system is so corrupt that it matters not which party is elected or in power. Damn, I need to get to bed soon...heh.


151 posted on 08/05/2012 2:58:51 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: philman_36

Thanks again. I really do appreciate it. I don’t expect everyone to get it, but it’s nice when some do.


152 posted on 08/05/2012 2:59:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: philman_36

I’m afraid that the conservatives we send to Washington as Reps and Senators soon find themselves going along to get along. If we sent a whole batch of conservative freshmen, in numbers large enough to give the Roves of the party the boot, it might be different, but the small numbers elected just get co-opted, or at least many of them do.

Changing the game is going to take something earth shattering. Maybe it’s another four years of Obama leading to ashes and ruin, but that seems like a terrible price to pay.


153 posted on 08/05/2012 3:00:09 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: dinodino
I don’t see how anyone whom calls himself a Conservative could ever vote for Romney.

I don't see how anyone WHO calls himself a Conservative could ever allow Obama to win again.

154 posted on 08/05/2012 3:05:42 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Captain Beyond

If we had five million people standing outside of the convention with candles, and each one stuck to the line that they will never vote for Mitt Romney, but they would vote for a Conservative, it would make an extremely powerful statement.

Short of that, I don’t see anything happening to rectify this situation. Frankly, I’d love to see a Tea Party hijacking of the Convention.

I hold no hope for either of these things to materialize.

I would join an effort, but I’m not driving to Tampa from Los Angeles, only to be ignored.


155 posted on 08/05/2012 3:06:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: philman_36

Exactly. If the inevitability of an 0bama second term is so overwhelming, then:

1. Why the unusually desperate rhetoric (for this point in the campaign) from 0bama`s people?

2. Why the wild-eyed, bizarre insinuations about Romney`s taxes from Harry Reid?

3. Why are the “media” relying on the laughably unbalanced and unrepresentative Dem sampling to achieve “advantages” of +6 for 0bama?

4. Why the obsessive and bizarre pleas for money by 0bama`s campaign? Does that sound like a campaign that has confidence in its success?

5. Why is 0bama`s campaign taking an unusual gamble vs, the military and seeking to squelch our troops` voting rights in Ohio?

Tomasky is a propagandist whose objective is to dispirit anti-0bama voters, presenting a “case”...BASED ON TAINTED “POLLS” ... that we`re wasting our time harboring any hopes of defeating that anti-American POS.

As for Romney, remember.. his actions as a governor reflected what the people in MA wanted. I`m not a big fan of his either, but he`s leagues better and for more American than the Kenyan POS will ever be. Any hoped-for conservative renaissance spawned by a second term of Obama will be mooted if America as we know it has breathed its last.

Finally, the GOP hasn`t even had a chance to showcase its nominee at the convention yet, nor has Romney made his VP pick. How about we see how that all shakes out before we meekly accept the false narrative by hard-core leftists like Tomasky that the election is over before it begins?


156 posted on 08/05/2012 3:10:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Deagle

Deagle, I appreciate your attitude. I don’t demand you buy into what I’m saying here. I try to be logical, but folks aren’t going to buy into this and I acknowledge that.

My past efforts have centered around getting this message out every four years before the Convention. After the Convention, you guys can do what you want. I’m not here to drive votes away from your choice.

The concept has to be driven home. Some day, if we still have a nation left, we will have to bite the bullet.

One day you and others may look back on this and curse the day you didn’t take what I am saying more seriously.

All I can do is lay it out.

Take care.


157 posted on 08/05/2012 3:10:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: Deagle

Does anyone know what the current membership total of FR is?


158 posted on 08/05/2012 3:16:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: DoughtyOne

Not at all D-One... I’ve been harboring your statements (and well put) for many years but just as others can’t seem to find the right time to pull the trigger - so to speak. I have been so disgusted with the Republicans and actually the whole political corruption scheme going on in Washington that all confidence has been lost in the political process. Seems like business in cahoots with government is not any better either.

It’s time to just give in and let things happen and vote for Conservative folks and hope I guess. If that does not work, then there is always the Tea Party - maybe throwing overboard some Tea for taxes thing...heh.

Enjoyed your comments tonight and there is nothing wrong with finally convincing others that changes are needed. I’ve just been putting off this decision for too long!


159 posted on 08/05/2012 3:19:49 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: okie01
This punting has got to stop. We are screwing the nation. Our party is. The Republican party is.

I agree wholeheartedly. But I ask for a sense of proportion.  One party is punting. The other is doing the screwing.  One is cause for disappointment. The other is cause for white-hot hatred.

I may be wrong, but seems to me you're upset with one party -- and it earns all your disdain. While the other gets a pass...


You and I are walking down the street.  I just purchased a burger and I'm eating it as we walk and talk.  At one point I mention everything that is wrong with it, and you point to a pile of cow stuff on the road, and ask why I only address the sandwich and not the cow stuff.

Bud, if I'm not happy with a terrible sandwich, what makes you think I'd eat cow stuff of the road?
  Would I need to tell you what was wrong with the cow stuff?  No, it would be a given that I wasn't going to eat the cow stuff, and what was wrong with it would go unsaid.


The Democrat pary and specifically Barack Obama is nothing but cow stuff, and what's wrong with it and him doesn't need to be said.

We have one party that is our conduit to success.  It isn't the Democrat party.  And so we must work to perfect the party that can contribute our cause, if we just bitch slap it into submission.  Onward to that effort...

160 posted on 08/05/2012 3:21:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: ScottinVA
Tomasky is predicting an Obama landslide, and Nancy Pelosi is predicting (yet again) that the Dems will retake the House...

After 2008, we were told by the MSM that: A) the GOP and conservatism was dead as the dodo
B) we might as well cancel the 2012 election, because Obama was going to win by a mega landslide..

Well, s**t ALWAYS happens..to the Dems...it's called 2009, 2010, and in a few months, 2012.

The Dems have lost the Senate..period...that's why Reid is going apes**t..he will not be back as minority leader..

161 posted on 08/05/2012 3:21:39 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three are a Congress".....John Adams)
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To: Gaffer

Have no idea but seems that a lot of old timers are here..heh.


162 posted on 08/05/2012 3:22:11 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Thanks you Deagle. Take care.


163 posted on 08/05/2012 3:22:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: Innovative

I supported W through two elections. His diligence in protecting this country from terrorism is unparalled. W, however is and was not a conservative. He never claimed to be. The closest he ever got to it domestically was his ‘compassionate conservatism’ campaign theme.

His collaboration with Teddy on education, his attempt to set foot on the amnesty path, and his prescription medication expansion of Medicare/Medicaid attest to his misguided dream that one could actually work with liberals to accomplish something substantive. His fault in this arena was that he believed liberals are actually honorable.

Lastly, W’s most egregious act was to creat the Department of Homeland Security and the TSA who will, if unchecked, actually destroy us from within.


164 posted on 08/05/2012 3:25:12 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Yes... W was no Conservative - a pretender as most to get elected - ah the life of a politician.


165 posted on 08/05/2012 3:31:23 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Innovative

After reading some of these posts, it is surprising to me also on the Romney bashing also too. Do they want a second Obama term?


166 posted on 08/05/2012 3:32:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: dinodino

how could anyone with a right mind vote for Obama?


167 posted on 08/05/2012 3:34:02 AM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: Biggirl

Not wanting another Obama Term - but no longer wanting to play along with the corrupt political system. There are times that you have to take a stance against corruption!


168 posted on 08/05/2012 3:37:27 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Bullfrogg

Not talking about voting for Obama - more taking a stance against the corrupt party and process - ie. either not voting or voting third party.


169 posted on 08/05/2012 3:41:17 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Bullfrogg
Conservatives had their chance to nominate a conservative candidate and blew it. No candidate was "conservative" enough so they split their vote and made it possible for the moderates to nominate Romney. Now, they whine because we don't have a conservative candidate. If you want the reason, look in a mirror.

The mission now is to defeat Obama and take the senate. We won't be able to accomplish one without the other. To do that, Romney must be elected. There'e a landslide coming in Nov. but it won't be an Obama landslide.

170 posted on 08/05/2012 3:44:25 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: dinodino
I don’t see how anyone whom calls himself a Conservative could ever vote for Romney.

I don't see how anyone who calls himself an American, could not.

171 posted on 08/05/2012 3:53:08 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: philman_36
I am fully aware of the form of government we have in this country but apparently you have overlooked the fact that democratic principles are employed in electing our representatives and senators or are you asserting that elections are not democratic.

The majority should prevail as long as their actions pass constitional muster. Unfortunately, the Sixteenth Amendment to the US Constitution allows the federal government to tax incomes without placing any limits whether the tax is progressive or flat or for what purposes the taxes are spent. Obama has consistently advocated higher taxes whereas Romney has not.

If Obama is re-elected, the probabilty of banning arms(not only guns) is dramatically increased because Obama would likely appoint Supreme Court justices who are inclined to totally disarm private citizens. I would be a little less apprehensive in this regard if Romney were elected.

172 posted on 08/05/2012 3:56:12 AM PDT by monocle (Some polls are desi)
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To: Kit cat
I will now vote for Romney and hope to GOD in heaven above we do NOT end up living in socialist country!!!

Unfortunately, we already live in a socialist country.

173 posted on 08/05/2012 3:56:22 AM PDT by Old_Grouch (65 and AARP-free. Monthly FR contributor.)
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To: Russ

Not Conservative enough - now that’s a real recommendation for Romney.. At least you are honest.

Now just why do you think that you can come her and expect that Conservatives on this site would vote for Romney because he was not Conservative enough?

Wait, I know, you are comparing him to Obama and hoping for votes because he is more Conservative than Obama. Well, if Romney is NOT Conservative without that comparison, then he is not a Conservative and almost everybody is more Conservative than Obama.

So, now why should we vote for Romney? Oh yeah, it’s our mission - forgot. If we don’t elect this liberal Republican this time, we will be in a quandary or is it just out of power? Maybe letting Obama win again will wake up America to their future!


174 posted on 08/05/2012 3:56:27 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: Innovative
As horrible as Obama is to America; (being radical), we would not be in this dilemma if not for the ruling class wanting a fake conservative as the party's leader. You need a person at the top for the majority of the people to respect. Romney hated Reagan in the 1980's. He does not deserve to be the nominee due to Romneycare. What a mess but it's the truth. It's a shame he maybe rewarded for that and his pro gay marriage stance. He needs to be replaced at convention so the base will come out. It will be a close election with the fraud, look for the dems with the advantage. The GOP done this-we should have had a strong candidate that would get the base excited. No wonder the dems have hope and a strategy. I don't see Romney turning social issues around nor Obamacare. He still feels he did right by banning the Boy Scouts at the Olympics.
175 posted on 08/05/2012 3:59:20 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Innovative
1. Gallup has Obama up by 2 (registered voters)

2. Rasmussen has Romney up by 2 (likely voters)

3. "A president’s Job Approval rating is one of the best indicators for assessing his chances of reelection. Typically, the president’s Job Approval rating on Election Day will be close to the share of the vote he receives. Currently, 45% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president's job performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) at least somewhat disapprove (see trends)." - Rasmussen Reports

Going over the electoral map, if Obama carries every state where his approval is over 50% and Romney carries the rest, it should be Obama 185 Romney 353.

Not Reagan or Bush 41 landslide territory, but a margin of 168 EV.

I think the author of the article is nuts. My state is not "in play", so I may vote for Johnson and Republican for everything else. If it was going to be close I'd vote for Romney in a heartbeat.

176 posted on 08/05/2012 4:00:33 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Bullfrogg

“how could anyone with a right mind vote for Obama?”

Or sit at home on election day and let Obama happen.


177 posted on 08/05/2012 4:07:27 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: Bullfrogg

“how could anyone with a right mind vote for Obama?”

Or sit at home on election day and let Obama happen.


178 posted on 08/05/2012 4:07:42 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I am fully cognizant of open primaries and the havoc they cause. But those states that have open primaries can act to close them. I would also point out that there has been occasions when conservatives have taken advantage of open primaries to give Democrats headaches. Open primaries are two edged swords.

If people can be swayed by talking heads or party "leaders", there is nothing that can be done about that. Some people can't be bothered to think for themselves while others wish to be thought of as being sophisticated so they go along with the talking heads. It is difficult to overcome human nature but liberals also faced with this problem.

We are probably better off than if Gore or Kerry were elected.

179 posted on 08/05/2012 4:17:05 AM PDT by monocle (Some polls are desi)
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To: dinodino

Romney will have it worst than another elected rat. He will have the rats as well as the teaparty conservatives on his tail.


180 posted on 08/05/2012 4:20:25 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Innovative

181 posted on 08/05/2012 4:20:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: DoughtyOne
I understand your anger but you have to realize that we have to work within the system. There have been third parties for decades and they will get 2-5% most of the time and spike to 15-20% on occasion. The only way to get there is to methodically remove the RINO’s from office and replace them with conservatives “that is the only way to do it”. The only way to do that is to convince the 51% of the American people that we are right. We can't do that if we just take our ball and go home. Romney wasn't even my second or third choice but he won the damn thing. We need to get Obama out and elect enough conservatives to hold Romneys’ feet to the fire. We are making a lot of progress we have the house and indications are we will get the Senate but we won't have sixty votes. In the end we just need someone in the Presidency who will sign the damn bills. I think Romney will at least do that!!
182 posted on 08/05/2012 4:37:15 AM PDT by ontap
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To: DoughtyOne

“Look, you can take Obama to task for not turning things around, and I’ll join you.”

Then do it. So far all you’ve done is bash George Bush. I challenge you to bash your hero Obama. Go ahead tell us how wonderful Obama is, how wonderful Obama has been and how wonderful Obama will be.

Tell us why we should vote for this communist again. We know you hate and despise Romney because he’s a RINO and you aren’t going to vote for him, but you haven’t told us why we should vote for your hero, Obama. Go ahead give it ur best shot. Convince all of us that we need to vote for ur boy Obama.....! Better yet tell us of all the wonderful things he has done for the country.

” Bush handed off a national disaster to Obama.”

Is this the best you have?? Are democratic talking points all you can come up with? NO, the disaster has been as is Obama. First and foremost Obama is a communist. He hates this country, he hates white people, he hates freedom, he hates captialism and he hates the American ideal. He is and has tried to destroy the very fabric of this country. He and his communist allies in the democrat party created the mess while they were in congress and when it all failed, they wanted to blame it all on Bush.

Does Bush deserve some of the blame? You bet. He could have vetoed some of those unAmerican bills but he chose not to. I fault him for that. But the banking crash that came about under Bush was not his fault. It was Obama, Clinton, Frank, Dodd, Kennedy and others that created the banking and mortage mess, not Bush.

Obama and other communist in the domcrat party used the talking point “social justice” to fool and trick simple minded people like you into believing that commuism is wonderful and great and that America should dump captialism and join the rest of the world in embracing the failed, tired, worn out theory, of commmunism. Communist like Obama and the communist in the deocratic party sold this “social justice” crap to the American public and they swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

“And as much as Bush and his sports fans like to say Congress wouldn’t cooperate on a lending industry fix, he had a Republican House and Senate until 2006”

Having a simple majority means nothing, ever heard of filibuster? Bush couldn’t get the reforms through and you know it. You just want to Bash Bush and protect that communist in the White House. Oama, on the other hand, had super majorites in both the House and the Senate. Boy things are really great under Obama huh? He got every program he wanted passed, he got his tax bills passsed, he got his spending bills passed, he got all of his criminal regulations passed, the congress was at his beckon call and they rubber stamped everything he wanted. The Repubs could do NOTHING to stop anything, they had NO POWER...!

Go ahead tell and show us how much better things are under your new communist master Obama.

“I don’t give a damn what you say to me, you need to at least be honest with yourself.”

That statement is laughable. You bash Bush, Romney and other republicans but do all you can to defend, protect, and make excuses for the communist in the White House. How bout u being honest?

“Bush WAS responsible for what he handed off.”

Your ignornace is showing thru....! I guess the ole saying: “ignorance is bliss” is true...!

“If Obama had handed off that situation to Bush, are you telling me you would have attacked Bush for it being his fault? There’s no way in hell you would have done that, and you damn well know it.”

So far I haven’t seen you hold Obama responsible for anything, all you’ve done is bash republicans. You are goinig out of ur way to protect and make ecuses for Obama and his failed policies. Why?

If you don’t want to vote Romney, DON’T. But don’t come on here trying to defend your boy Obama by bashing Bush and other republicans. We know that they aren’t perfect and that they let us down more than once. I’m not ready to give up on this country and walk away and hand it over to the commuinst in the domocratic party though.

If you thank your little communst buddy in the White House is the answer, then that’s who u need to vote for. I choose to vote for the lesser of two evils since that seems to be the only viable option I have.

“I agree with that. But it’s another thing totally, to turn a blind eye to what our own team did.”

Turned a blind eye....???? What planet are you from? Conservative republicans bashed bushed regurlary and often for being a big spender. Conservative voters stayed home and didn’t vote in the last election because of the failures of George Bush. How do you think Obama won the election?

Its you and your ilk that are turning a blind eye. Obama’s father was communist, his mother was communist, his grandparents where communist, his best friend and mentor was communist, his best friends are commuist, his bests pal is a communist, all of his ideas are communist, everything he has presented to congress is a communist idea, but yet you and people like you in the press and the rest of America don’t think he’s communist. What flavor kool-aid are you folks drinking?


183 posted on 08/05/2012 4:39:57 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: Innovative

Another delusion of grandeur. These are the same idiots who were touting that ObamaIdiot would raise near a billion campaign dollars this go round....we see how that is panning out, huh? The silent majority has not spoken yet and I believe it will not be in ObamaIdiot’s favor come November. =.=


184 posted on 08/05/2012 4:41:35 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Innovative
After a second term of Obama there WON’T be a country left to take back. Not to mention the Supreme Court, after Obama puts in a few more judges.

That doesn't matter anymore; the supreme court starting going rouge with Affirmative Actions and have completely become irrelevant with the sanctioning of Obama care. I personally am not worried about the Supreme Rubber Stamp anymore. This no longer affects my vote anymore.

185 posted on 08/05/2012 4:45:53 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: All
My tag line expresses my position on Romney/Obama. There is a good chance that a motivated conservative Congress will seek action against Obama for his high crimes and misdemeanors. The likelihood of Obama being impeached and removed from office in his second term is high. Certainly the Tea Party will be highly motivated to mobilize to force the House and then the Senate to remove this criminal from office.
It is foolish to believe that Romney can win without conservative support. If he were to pull it out he would be a continuing embarrassment to patriots. Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.
186 posted on 08/05/2012 4:52:31 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: Kit cat
I was one who said they would NEVER vote for Romney, and that would still be true if we had not been betrayed by Justice Roberts. I will now vote for Romney and hope to GOD in heaven above we do NOT end up living in socialist country!!! If the senate and congress can put the reins on Romney we will start the path back to freedom, however it will take all of the years we have all been asleep!!!

Well put. My sentiments exactly. Bears repeating.

187 posted on 08/05/2012 4:53:32 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (It's down to 'anybody but Obama'. And God forgive me for what I must do in November.))
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To: Ingtar
Numerous people stated before the primaries that they would not support Romney. Warning signs were abundant... and ignored. He has left such a trail of contradictory statements behind that the Obama PACs will have a field day withering his support with his own words.

What perfect rationalization - "numerous" people said they wouldm't support Romney....millions put him where he's at, but you're willing to cut your head off by allowing Obama 4 more more readily than you're willing to take a stubbed toe with Romney. Used to be a time when such "rationalization" would be shot down by the same folks now espousing it.

188 posted on 08/05/2012 4:54:59 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: dinodino

Because Conservatives are above all, practical. And, realistic. As opposed to say, Libertarians.


189 posted on 08/05/2012 5:02:38 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: Innovative

Landslide = avalanche.


190 posted on 08/05/2012 5:03:30 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Woe to them...)
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To: dinodino
....I predict that if Romney is elected, he will immediately embrace every “moderate” position and will basically act like a Democrat...

... and I predict that theatrical Freepers displaying their ideological purity will go quiet for a week, after Romney wins. Which will be a blessing for us all.

191 posted on 08/05/2012 5:05:30 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: DoughtyOne

Different time different election. First the electorate is very polarized. I believe most have made there minds up. Second Romney has comited political malpractice. I have made this comment before. Mittens is a lousy campaigner. I am not sure he could turn on a light bulb let alone the electorate. People loved Reagan he was plain spoken and always saw the good and communicated that. Does anyone think Mitt is capable of that? Say what you want about Obama and his gang but they are seasoned pros that understand politics. They have Mitt responding to them every day. Last item is where is Mitt spending money? Is he expanding the map? No, he is not. He is advertising in NV, CO, IA, NH, NC, VA, OH, Fl. This is a fact. So that means he has ceded MI, WI, PA. This means the electoral college is at 243-191 Obama. The remaining states Mitt is up barely in NC. Obama is up barely in Fl. The others are up more substantially for Obama. Mitt would need to turn almost all of the around. With his skills? So you can say Reagan came back but with the polorized nation without something catistrophic to Obama I am concentrating on down ballot. The senate is going to be hard. Maine is a flip. I think we gain in MO. MA is tight, ND is tight, Nevada AZ, MT, IN and VA are coin Flips right now. I am afraid Mitt could screw us there.


192 posted on 08/05/2012 5:11:31 AM PDT by chopperjc
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To: dinodino
I don’t see how anyone whom calls himself a Conservative could ever vote for Romney.

I don't see how anyone who calls himself a Conservative could ever allow Obama to be re-elected. There is only one way to defeat obama, and that is to elect Romney PLUS a Conservative Republican supermajority in the Senate. This election is about defeating Socialism, Marxism, Communism. Don't ever forget it.

193 posted on 08/05/2012 5:15:51 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: swampfox101

As always SF, a rational thought that I can latch on to! I can’t believe I have read all this dribble and have only seen a few here that have common sense! The narrow minded have captured this thread and seem to attack reasonable thoughts brought to the table. There are so many reasons not to allow this man back for 4 more years. I don’t care who runs against him, that person is better than what this man has done to the country. You will never see a Conservative back in office if this Prez gets another 4 years. PERIOD. Tell me how on earth are you going to go from Communist to Conservative by 2021? Dreaming I do believe!


194 posted on 08/05/2012 5:17:23 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: swampfox101

As always SF, a rational thought that I can latch on to! I can’t believe I have read all this dribble and have only seen a few here that have common sense! The narrow minded have captured this thread and seem to attack reasonable thoughts brought to the table. There are so many reasons not to allow this man back for 4 more years. I don’t care who runs against him, that person is better than what this man has done to the country. You will never see a Conservative back in office if this Prez gets another 4 years. PERIOD. Tell me how on earth are you going to go from Communist to Conservative by 2021? Dreaming I do believe!


195 posted on 08/05/2012 5:17:38 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: Deagle; DoughtyOne

You all are full of crap. There is no grand conspiracy to elect liberals. Most people [non-FR] see 0bama as Satan as you said and Romney as normal. Your Satan’s lieutenant comment is stupid.

If you’d rather have 0bama than Romney, you’re an idiot too. Stop whining and blaming others. If you want a conservative elected, than get busy and get one nominated in the primary. What ? You’re too lazy and would prefer to be a whining idiot? We all know that already.

The primary is over and YOU FAILED to get a conservative nominated. So quit blaming others and quit doing things to make our nominee lose.

Go to DU.


196 posted on 08/05/2012 5:18:52 AM PDT by Principled (Vote Romney to stop Obama. Vote for conservative Reps and Senators to stop Romney. [ZET 7/30/12])
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To: swampfox101

amen


197 posted on 08/05/2012 5:20:20 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Innovative
***... there seem to be many more posts bashing and hating Romney, than posts advocating defeating Obama ...

I wouldn't read too much into that. FR has always had its rabble of professional contrarians, who delight in undermining collective positivity. They idolize Reagan but you can be sure that, if the Intertubes had been around back then, they would have directed just as much venom at the Gipper.

198 posted on 08/05/2012 5:20:52 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: swampfox101

As always SF, a rational thought that I can latch on to! I can’t believe I have read all this dribble and have only seen a few here that have common sense! The narrow minded have captured this thread and seem to attack reasonable thoughts brought to the table. There are so many reasons not to allow this man back for 4 more years. I don’t care who runs against him, that person is better than what this man has done to the country. You will never see a Conservative back in office if this Prez gets another 4 years. PERIOD. Tell me how on earth are you going to go from Communist to Conservative by 2021? Dreaming I do believe!


199 posted on 08/05/2012 5:22:17 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: LadyDoc

That was Pauline Kael. She was not a columnist; she was a film critic who worked for the New Yorker for many years.


200 posted on 08/05/2012 5:30:01 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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