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Woman wants answers after sheriff's deputy shot, killed her dog
http://www.koco.com ^ | 8:00 AM CDT Aug 03, 2012 | KOCO.com

Posted on 08/05/2012 6:25:11 PM PDT by FunkyZero

CLEVELAND COUNTY, Okla.

A Cleveland County woman says she called a sheriff's deputy for help, but when he arrived at her home, he shot and killed her dog without provocation.

(Excerpt) Read more at koco.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: animals; copshootsdog; deputy; dog; donutwatch; leo; shot; sourcetitlenoturl; warondogs
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Like virtually all of these stories, very short on details and told from the position of making the public angry at the cops. It may well be that he’s an idiot who shot the dog for no reason. OR it could be that something happened (ACDs can be quite sharp and snappy, and especially one with puppies and lots of scary things going on in her house, I imagine the domestic disturbance was “disturbing” to her also).
And of course the owner is distraught, regardless of exactly what happened and her story is going to be, “the cop shot my dog for no reason and needs to pay/be fired/killed/sent to hell on the express train”. That’s natural.
Personally I would always like all of the information before passing judgement.
But I agree with your first sentence. And your last one.


61 posted on 08/06/2012 5:28:38 AM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: NVDave

Very well said.


62 posted on 08/06/2012 6:35:07 AM PDT by gruffwolf
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To: tflabo

The 98% of bad cops give the other 2% a bad name.


63 posted on 08/06/2012 8:42:48 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: tflabo

“Well let’s not brand and lump all police officers into the hated dog killers column. Some police are excellent people and others are scum of the earth.”

Yeah, so when you call them, how do you discern the “excellent” ones from the “scum?” In large measure, they are union thugs who have been given guns and they have an attitude that no matter what, they are going to “go home!” We have had two calls to 911 for medical problems that we subsequently cancelled. In each instance, the cops showed up and refused to leave. Eff them all. They are not good people and cannot be trusted with your safety!


64 posted on 08/06/2012 8:43:58 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: umgud

Dogs are shot in bathrooms, in owner’s bedrooms or other rooms in the house.

“Put your dogs up” assumes that the LEO will give you the benefit of the doubt if it learns that your dog is contained in your bathroom/laundry room/bedroom, etc, and not shoot it upon opening the door.


65 posted on 08/06/2012 12:37:05 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: CaptainK

She was not “forced” to call 911 unless someone at that residence was holding a gun to her head at the time.

I doubt that was the case.

I would say that she ought to be personally armed to defend herself against said boyfriend (and dump the jerk).


66 posted on 08/06/2012 12:42:24 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: CaptainK

Of course, Captian it’s never the fault of an officer who shoots first and asks questions later. It’s the fault of the victim that the criminal assaulted them, not the fault of the criminal.

We get it; it bothers you that we don’t worship the police.


67 posted on 08/06/2012 12:46:22 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: brytlea

There is no logical reason for him to shoot the dog before giving her opportunity to put the dog in another room.

Since he did so, his version of the story has less credence than hers.

How is it that her mailman, utility repairmen, meter readers and the like all managed to perform their duties without shooting her dog, hmm?


68 posted on 08/06/2012 12:49:46 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I have no details on what occurred. I know only what the woman involved said. I simply don’t know what happened. As to your last sentence, it has nothing to do with this. I have not said the cops actions were correct. I have said that we don’t know what happened. That is all. Unless you have access to more info that’s what I have to go with.


69 posted on 08/06/2012 1:06:29 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: brytlea

Of course we have indpeendent verification of some of the details.

We know there is a dead dog.

We know who shot the dog.

We know the individual belongs to an occupation which has, in recent years, been documented shooting and killing numerous dogs.

In light of these facts, the more reliable witness, of the two, in this situation, is the non-police officer.


70 posted on 08/06/2012 1:19:36 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I have said I wasn’t there and so I don’t know. As far as I know you weren’t there, but you do know. You are determined to be right. I’m done discussing this with you.


71 posted on 08/06/2012 1:25:57 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: barbarianbabs

Very, very few of us know WTF “SCE” is.


72 posted on 08/06/2012 1:39:06 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Altariel

I don’t worship cops. Not by a long shot. I also don’t worship abusive boyfriends or have them living in my house along with my kids my mother and my pets. That way I don’t have to entertain trigger happy cops in my house and put my loved ones in harms way.


73 posted on 08/06/2012 1:50:15 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: FunkyZero

Arm yourself and prepare to take care of yourself.


74 posted on 08/06/2012 1:57:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NVDave

What has “gone wrong” is that DHS has named Americans as domestic terrorists and declared “war on terror.”

Police have been placed into a mentality of military occupiers. The population being invaded has no rights. The occupiers are into indimidation for total control of the enmey.


75 posted on 08/06/2012 2:06:07 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: CaptainK

Yet, you’re still blaming the victim, not the officer who shot the dog, for the death of her dog.


76 posted on 08/06/2012 2:18:06 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: brytlea

Yes, what happened is known.

The officer shot and killed the dog.

I daresay the “official story” of the officer will differ from the story of the law-abiding citizen.

The party whom did not shoot and kill the dog is therefore more reliable than the party who did shoot and kill the dog as to the circumstances surrounding the killing of said dog.


77 posted on 08/06/2012 2:24:25 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
As a mother I blame the stupidity of women who bring violent men into the lives of their families and then want the authorities to bail them out their stupid choices. It's not like a burglar broke into her house.

I'm not letting her off scott free though you may choose to do so.

78 posted on 08/06/2012 5:21:56 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: brytlea

As ever, the soul of reason. No hot-head, you. :-)


79 posted on 08/06/2012 7:29:08 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

One of the most frustrating things about these stories is we rarely hear the rest of the story. The press is in the business of stirring things up and people are more than willing to be stirred up. And I agree that the police (like all groups, btw) will close ranks and protect each other. And people do damn fool things sometimes. And every one of us would be very angry if our dog was shot, even if we did something stupid that led to it or if the dog was menacing someone (or appeared to be).
I always feel sorry for the dog. And I sometimes feel sorry for the people. ;)


80 posted on 08/06/2012 7:46:30 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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