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EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016: U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans
The Washington Times ^ | August 8, 2012 | Editorial

Posted on 08/08/2012 4:50:24 PM PDT by EveningStar

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Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A “Vision” of the Future
1 posted on 08/08/2012 4:50:34 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Admin Moderator

As near as I can tell, this article is NOT by Anthony Martin. :)


2 posted on 08/08/2012 4:52:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Its clearly time to regain control of our military, bring as many home as we can, strip them of the corporate brass, and indoctrinate them in constitutional thinking.


3 posted on 08/08/2012 4:53:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: EveningStar; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

4 posted on 08/08/2012 4:54:21 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1297 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: EveningStar
So when US soldiers start attacking US citizens, where exactly does their allegiance lie?

Or are they merely mercenaries?

5 posted on 08/08/2012 4:55:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the collectivists.)
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To: null and void

Please add me to your ping list. :)


6 posted on 08/08/2012 4:56:05 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

What exactly is a Tea Party Extremist?

A bunch of fiscal conservatives going to trade people to death?


7 posted on 08/08/2012 4:57:53 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: EveningStar

Alex Jones has been saying this for years. Oh I can’t post that name.


8 posted on 08/08/2012 4:58:20 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: EveningStar



9 posted on 08/08/2012 4:59:54 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: EveningStar
That's the way the culture works nowadays.

Anything that can possibly provide a paper topic to an academic gets written.

Anything that can possibly put a dollar in someone's pocket gets done.

You'll see this come out as a computer game within a year.

That doesn't mean the government will actually do anything about it, though.

10 posted on 08/08/2012 5:01:54 PM PDT by x
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is one of the problems I have with perpetual war. You’ve got to get off the war footing every so often so they can just be Americans for a while.


11 posted on 08/08/2012 5:03:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My son is in the Army, I can guarentee you that he stands with “the people” as per the Constitution as per his oath. I’ll have to ask him what he thinks the majority of his brother soldiers would do, though.


12 posted on 08/08/2012 5:03:53 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: null and void

Hey! Did I get booted of the NJCP list? I had to stumble onto this one myself! :0)


13 posted on 08/08/2012 5:04:14 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: EveningStar
Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A “Vision” of the Future

Posted by Ann Barnhardt - Aug 4, 2012

This isn't some wild bee-ess from some Alex Jones site. This is the real deal. The author is a retired Colonel currently on staff at Ft. Leavenworth, which is the hub of all flag officer advanced education and indoctrination. Ft. Leavenworth is not called "the Little Pentagon" for nothing.

The piece is lengthy, but worth the read. It is basically war gaming how the United States military would be deployed to put down a "Tea Party insurgency". Some choice quotes:

"Under present law, which initially stemmed from bad feelings about Reconstruction, the military’s domestic role is highly circumscribed. In the situation we lay out below, even though the governor refuses to seek federal help to quell the uprising (the usual channel for military assistance), the Constitution allows the president broad leeway in times of insurrection."

"Coupled with a gradual build-up of federal forces in the local area, all covered by the media, the effect of this pressure will compound over time and quite possibly cause doubt about the correctness of the events in Darlington in the minds of its’ citizens and the insurrectionists who control the town..."

"The design of this plan to restore the rule of law to Darlington will include information/influence operations designed to present a picture of the federal response and the inevitable defeat of the insurrection."

"Combat units will conduct overt Show of Force operations to remind the insurrectionists they are now facing professional military forces, with all the training and equipment that implies..."

"A focus on the humanitarian aspect of the effort will be politically more palatable for the state and local officials. Federal forces continue to tighten the noose as troops seize and secure power and water stations, radio and TV stations, and hospitals."


14 posted on 08/08/2012 5:04:38 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: EveningStar

Darlington?

The NASCAR Rebellion?


15 posted on 08/08/2012 5:05:00 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

” So when US soldiers start attacking US citizens, where exactly does their allegiance lie? “

If the trend continues, by 2016 the military will be largely populated by balkanized enclaves of ‘victim groups’ more intent on ‘getting back at their oppressors’ than on defending their country....


16 posted on 08/08/2012 5:06:41 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: EveningStar

I have known COL (R) Benson for a number of years. He’s a very bright fellow who in his contractor hat works in the world known in military planning circles as “The Red Team”. Their job is to put their 100 pound brain to work positing what our enemies and potential enemies might do in order to cause great consternation amongst the good guy, “Blue Force” planners who have to come up with ways to tackle the bad guys.

That’s what he has done here to spark a much needed debate. But, he’s cut too close to the political bone and he has nicked a number of very sensitive nerves. Some in political circles are wondering aloud how they might harness the power and might of the military to work for their domestic political objectives. This debate needs to be out in the open so that notions of the use of military force against perceived threats to certain political factions can be quashed before anything is set in motion.

Benson is not the problem, he views this as an academic exercise. The problem lies to the East of the Missouri River, well East, on the banks of the Potomac.


17 posted on 08/08/2012 5:07:59 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: EveningStar

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


18 posted on 08/08/2012 5:08:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: sf4dubya
What exactly is a Tea Party Extremist?

Anyone who still clings to the outdated idea that government works for the people.

19 posted on 08/08/2012 5:08:53 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That’s easy.

They won’t attack their own.


20 posted on 08/08/2012 5:09:10 PM PDT by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Iron Munro
the Constitution allows the president broad leeway in times of insurrection."

Or looked at another way, "...an out-of-control President can claim Constitutional authority for trying to shut down the citizens who are trying to restore Constitutional rule and limit him to his Constitutional boundaries."
21 posted on 08/08/2012 5:10:03 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: ScubieNuc

I personally think the majority of the troops are with the people but that doesn’t mean you can’t gather the right ones together for a unit of blind followers or revenge seekers.


22 posted on 08/08/2012 5:10:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: EveningStar; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...

CW2 Ping

Draw a line intersecting the immediate reaction by the MSM to the Gabby Giffords/Tucson shooting, then Colorado/ABC/Brian Ross, and now this serious and semi-official calculated provocation by a well-known scholar-officer in a respected establishment war journal ... carefully reviewed and passed along before being released. Where does that line project?

What ever happened to wargaming scenarios against Orangeland and Pineland, designed to cause no political blowback from any quarter? Clearly, this is a calculated insult and poke in the eye to name the Evil White Racist / Tea Party Militia as the National Villain. This is just a stunning change in scenario-writing traditions to name and call out an ethnic and regional group as National Villain. This is getting close to the German Nazis naming the dirty jewish vermin as national villain.

There has never been an arrest of a tea party person at any TEA (”taxed enough already”) Party gathering, consisting mostly of older Americans who want a smaller government. Now, these flag-waving geriatrics are recast as “enemies of the state,” deserving to be crushed by the Federal Leviathan. This is dangerous territory. This is Josef Goebbels territory by ABCNNBCBS, “American Pravda,” our MSM, and now by the Small Wars Journel, tied at the hip to the war college at Fort Leavenworth, where our future generals learn the trade.

I can only conclude that the liberal elite powers-that-be (both govt and media wings) have an epic hard-on for “evil white racist Tea Party militia terrorists.” Even if they must conjure them from insane Neo Nazis like the maniac in Wisconsin. (For those who don’t know, Nazi stands for National SOCIALIST. The other side of the Socialist coin is Communisim. They only vary in their enemies and victims, chosen by race or by class.)

And now a respected COL, US Army (ret) is whipping up the hate-on for the imaginary EWR/TPM. (Evil White Racist / Tea Pary Militia.) Paging Josef Goebbels. Or is the guilty culprit in this disgusting demi-drama the Colonel’s female sidekick, the “Civil War expert?” Is she trying to light the fuse to the next Fort Sumter, so that she can write the first history of CW2? Already have the prologue written, dear? Disgust does not begin to convey what I feel for this “academic,” busy tossing matches into the dry straw of the next mega-Waco.

I can only hope that the COL (ret) is a drunk, or suffers dementia, and somehow allowed the lady to hijack his half-byline. But the danger remains that he is fully cognizant of the meaning of the words put out under his name, and agrees whith them. And on up the editorial board which approved this abortion for dissemination.

We cannot ignore this trend. We have had our warnings. The leaders of the liberal elite establishment (gangster government and cooperating media branches) are chomping at the bit to unleash hell on their mortal enemies, the Bitter Clinger Nation.

And if it doesn’t happen naturally, they might give it some “help.” (See Fast & Furious, where the Obama regime already crossed the deliberate mass-murder-for-political-gain Rubicon, and the MSM is part of the coverup.)

(I just posted this on the Washington Times comment thread. Hit it up for a like, and it will float to the top, if you care to “agree” in a visible way.)

http://disqus.com/next/lounge/client.html?f=washtimes&t_i=story_548236&t_u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2012%2Faug%2F7%2Fthe-civil-war-of-2016%2F&t_t=EDITORIAL%3A%20The%20Civil%20War%20of%202016&s_o=popular#1


23 posted on 08/08/2012 5:11:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EveningStar

Americans need to wake the **** up. The Kenyan boy is bringing this to a head.


24 posted on 08/08/2012 5:11:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The NRA did not create James "The Joker" Holmes. Harvey Weinstein's Hollywood did.)
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To: EveningStar
"The Army cannot disappoint the American people, especially in such a moment."

So...kill them?

Fantasy stories like this are nursed somewhere deep in political circles. It's their Final Solution to power.

25 posted on 08/08/2012 5:12:26 PM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: EveningStar
Please add me to your ping list. :)

No.

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

26 posted on 08/08/2012 5:12:45 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1297 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: EveningStar
Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion.

Imagine leftist Democrats using control of both houses of Congress together with a leftist President and a leftist majority on the Supreme Court to impose their will on Americans and the Army standing around with their thumbs up their butts saying, "Just tell us where to shoot, Mr. President."
27 posted on 08/08/2012 5:14:12 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: autumnraine

AHA! That’s what happened!


28 posted on 08/08/2012 5:14:21 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1297 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: EveningStar

The US military has experience in fighting (modern) insurgency for over a decade. Any uprising in the US will be violently crushed. Any uprising with a hint of “southern” will have very little (public) support in the North and West, while tea party uprising will have broader support. Regardless, I just do not see a well oiled military machine can be brought to knees by weekend warriors who are probably over 50 and not in good physical shape (notwithstanding sound fiscal sense).


29 posted on 08/08/2012 5:14:44 PM PDT by sagar
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To: EveningStar

That’s not the way to get on the ping list. You gotta read the fine print.


30 posted on 08/08/2012 5:16:08 PM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks EveningStar.


31 posted on 08/08/2012 5:17:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: autumnraine

Report him to the Mods!

Report him to the Mods!


32 posted on 08/08/2012 5:17:31 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: EveningStar

The problem right here will arise when Constitutional Government effectively gets between the Treasury, the Federal Credit Card, and the Left. And eventually it will.

To the Left, this very action will be characterized as “insurrection”....or a “civil rights violation”...or “oppression”..and it WILL ignite the next Civil War....which will be fought over the RIGHT to continue to enslave the productive and their offspring through Constitutional circumvention, to the illusions/delusions of Progressivism/Leftism.

It will happen in our lifetimes. That’s what this piece is about.

You heard it here first....


33 posted on 08/08/2012 5:19:20 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
GMTA ... my first thought was to post that link in reply.

Our Founding Fathers had a great and health fear of a standing army. It appears those fears were well-founded.

34 posted on 08/08/2012 5:20:59 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "One can argue about whose fault it is, but not ... whose responsibility it is: it's his")
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To: EveningStar
And while the military is busy doing a show of force, the nice old lady in the neighborhood shows up at a local party appartchik meeting featuring "prominent speakers",serves up a "special" dinner, then disappears.
Or as the tanks move into town, the road suddenly explodes with metal rods that pierce the undersides of vehicles, filling them with shrapnel. The explosive residue shows that the propellant is home made.
Truck and rail traffic slow or stop into the power centers (cities) of those who have a "thing" against the bitter clingers, resulting in massive riots and looting. As troops are called in to quell the unrest, supply lines for those subduing the resistance in the hinterland grow thin.

Two can play this game.

35 posted on 08/08/2012 5:21:13 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Uncle Ike
If the trend continues, by 2016 the military will be largely populated by balkanized enclaves of ‘victim groups’ more intent on ‘getting back at their oppressors’ than on defending their country....

Nicely said.

All of the class warfare and pandering to victim groups we have been witnessing is not without a purpose and goal.


36 posted on 08/08/2012 5:21:13 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: EveningStar

Hmm, let’s see, there has never been, at any time, when the tea party caused any trouble. Meanwhile in the liberal side of it all, there are the OWS, causing all kinds of mayhem in every part of the country. Just look at what they did in Portland? Yet, whenever there is talk of “INSURRECTIONS”, these Washington flea brains are preparing a war against the TEA PARTY. That’s ludicrous. But, I’m willing to bet, that if there are any kinds of “INSURRECTIONS”, the tea party will get the blame. And the OWS groups, they will be exonorated.


37 posted on 08/08/2012 5:21:44 PM PDT by gingerbread
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To: ScubieNuc

My cousin’s son is in the National Guard. He says some of them are *very* concerned they could be ordered to fire on their fellow citizens.........uh, key word being *some*.

Anyone that says something can’t happen simply because it hasn’t happened before is living in a fool’s paradise.

Just food for thought folks.


38 posted on 08/08/2012 5:22:56 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: sagar

Read the link at my post #18 and then tell me what you think...


39 posted on 08/08/2012 5:22:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ScubieNuc

My son is in the Army, I can guarentee you that he stands with “the people” as per the Constitution as per his oath. I’ll have to ask him what he thinks the majority of his brother soldiers would do, though.


The problem with the military is the O-6 and above Command Structure. Not with the troops. These are all, ALL politicians. And yes, these days, that goes for my beloved Marine Corps, also. An Omar Bradley, A Lewis B. Puller, A Creighton Abrams....they no longer exist.

I have no love for officers. The only ones worth a cold bottle of piss are Warrants and Mustangs (prior Enlisted). Canoe U. grads are as worthless as Harvard grads.

If this type scenario ever came about, I know where I’d be.


40 posted on 08/08/2012 5:23:58 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Steve Newton

Remember Kent State? And that was 1970.....


41 posted on 08/08/2012 5:24:11 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: Travis McGee

Like I said before, they’ll never tell the military to attack “Americans”, they’ll call us “Domestic Terrorists” first.


42 posted on 08/08/2012 5:28:43 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Steve Newton
They won’t attack their own.

The American left was taking notes when the Chinese sent troops from outlining provinces to Tiananmen Square.

43 posted on 08/08/2012 5:28:57 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1297 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Steve Newton
They won’t attack their own.

The American left was taking notes when the Chinese sent troops from outlining provinces to Tiananmen Square.

44 posted on 08/08/2012 5:29:18 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1297 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: EveningStar
101st in Little Rock
101st Airborne in Arkansas

Anybody who believes the troops will side with “the people” needs a refresher in U.S. history, and its constitution.
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 states in part:
“…SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;…”
If Congress authorizes it, they can do it. They have done it. Without congressional authorization. Deploy against American citizens on U.S soil? Of course they can. Already been done:
Whiskey Rebellion
Harper’s Ferry
Wounded Knee
Bonus Marchers
Coal Labor Strike of 1941
Little Rock Nine
Kent State
Martin Luther King Riots
Wounded Knee II
Ruby Ridge
Waco

45 posted on 08/08/2012 5:29:51 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: null and void

“To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list”

That’s OK, I’ve already reported you. Just stay where you are, they know where to find you. :)


46 posted on 08/08/2012 5:31:05 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
"Anyone that says something can’t happen simply because it hasn’t happened before is living in a fool’s paradise."

It's already happened before:


47 posted on 08/08/2012 5:31:10 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: gingerbread

In case you haven’t noticed, the GOP is nearly as nasty toward the tea party as the democrats. We threaten their power even more than we do the democrats.


48 posted on 08/08/2012 5:31:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: EveningStar

5,000+ muders in Chicago over the past decade and the lefties are worried about some hypothetical small town in south carolina. No, they don’t have ulterior motives or anything. Incidentally, this is why our forefathers were dead set opposed to a large standing Army quartered within our borders.


49 posted on 08/08/2012 5:31:52 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: sagar

Ever seen a civil war in a nation where over 50% of the population own firearms, and 10% own scoped deer rifles capable of hitting a soldier on guard or checkpoint duty at 400+ yards?

A few thousand active Taliban armed mostly with rusty old AK-47s are tying down how many of our troops, MRAPS, helos, Predators, etc? Are we winnin that one?

Imagine not a few thousand Taliban with old AKs, but millions of soldiers with experience from Vietnam to OIF, armed with scoped deer rifles.

Ever conjure up that “scenario?” It’s never happened, but I know one thing: even Hitler was not foolish enough to invade Switzerland.


50 posted on 08/08/2012 5:32:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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