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Posted on 08/09/2012 6:58:41 PM PDT by reaganaut1
WASHINGTON — When the jubilant couple were wed in June, they exchanged personalized vows and titanium rings, cheered the heartfelt toasts and danced themselves breathless. Then, as the evening was winding down, unexpected questions started popping up.
One after another, their guests began asking: Are you going to have kids? When are you going to have kids?
Tom Lotito and Matt Hay, both 26, could not help but feel moved. They never imagined as teenagers that they would ever get married, much less that friends and family members would pester them about having children.
“It’s another way that I feel like what we have is valid in the eyes of other people,” said Mr. Hay, who married Mr. Lotito in June before 133 guests.
As lawmakers and courts expand the legal definition of the American family, same-sex couples are beginning to feel the same what-about-children pressure that heterosexual twosomes have long felt.
For some couples, it is another welcome sign of their increasing inclusion in the American mainstream. But for others, who hear the persistent questions at the office, dinner parties and family get-togethers, the matter can be far more complicated.
Many gay men had resigned themselves to the idea that they would never be accepted by society as loving parents and assumed they would never have children. They grieved that loss and moved on, even as other gay men and lesbians fully embraced childless lives. So the questions can unearth bittersweet feelings and cause deep divisions within a couple over whether to have children at all, now that parenting among same-sex couples is becoming more common.
The process can be also daunting logistically and financially, as would-be parents wrestle with whether to adopt or use a surrogate.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
No, they are not going to have kids. What kind of an idiot would ask two men that question?
The world is upside down.
Why not ask if they`re going to have kittens?
Wow, I knew education was in decline in America, but I had no clue it was THIS bad...
“One after another, their guests began asking: Are you going to have kids? When are you going to have kids? “
...so, they invited a bunch of pedophiles to their “wedding”...
Why am I not surprised?
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Beat me to it. Sounds like a lot of perverts trying to be first in line to baby-sit.
And why?
When you come to your senses and marry a young lady.
Where’s the barf alert?
Heather has two screwed up Mommies.
The probability of two men having kids: zero.
The probability of two men having a real wedding: zero.
The probability of these men having flings with others: over 95%.
Why is anyone celebrating this ceremony?
Of course not.
But hey, the libtards keep saying 2 faggots are “normal”. If they’re normal, how come they can’t have kids? This is like squeezing orange juice from a boulder.
The question of marriage was settled many thousands of years ago and it hasn’t changed. It is one man and one woman making a lifetime commitment.
What kind of FREAK asks when two queers will “pro-create?”
The same kind that celebrates their “marriage”, I suppose.
Two men pressured into filling a cradle? Disastrous. Awful. This is the height of absurdity.
Where is the projectile vomit warning on this tread?
yes, it’s that bad, because these “friends” are imbeciles for even asking an idiotic question like that.
If fags can have kids, then that’s the time I sh*t dollar bills out of my ass.
That’s certainly a much better choice.
Maybe a baby will grow in Tom’s tummy.
On one hand, a baby adopted is a baby not killed through adoption.
On the other hand is a baby raised by two males with one common set of family instincts.
There just may be a reason that hetero couples have two sets of instincts when it comes to baby-raising.
There is a same sex parent child issue case going on right now in Vermont. Google “Ken Miller trial”.
I guess a lot of straight assholes are interested in this outrageous, destructive experiment.
Evil
What a sick,sad situation in which to bring an innocent child. Same sex couples are too selfish in promoting their fantasies to consider the toll their lifestyle will take on a child.
I am gong to sign off for a couple days. I am on nausea overlaod here.
“I guess a lot of straight assholes are interested in this outrageous, destructive experiment.”
Yes. They support and promote it. The lunacy helps their decadent and selfish culture flourish.
Tom and Matt are a genetic dead end, and they need to accept this fact. Do not look look for a woman as a surrogate mother Tom and Matt, as statistically you two will be separated within a few years anyway, assuming you don’t succumb to disease first.
I am still looking through my high school biology text to see if
“fertilized excrement” can render life.
Nope, it requires a female ovum.
Oh well, back to the reality of the natural order.
Here in Texas we call them FREAKS.
ROFL! Their friends and family must be as dumb as they are ... they CAN'T have children!!!
I am pretty sure that in all the history of this planet, there has never been any living thing that has resulted from homosexual sex. Not one single thing. And yet, people in NYTimes-land seem to think otherwise.
Oh, thats right ... what they meant is, "will you find a surrogate female who is willing to be fertilized in a lab and carry the resultant offspring to term, then find a "family friendly" court to allow said offspring to be adopted by two buggering males in their 20's?"
Yes-—and how EVIL—to destroy the chance for a child to be raised by his mother.
Think about it. With me—I couldn’t image my life without my father AND my mother. They gave me meaning (and unconditional love—both maternal and paternal—both necessary to be able to emotionally connect and be successful in all types of natural relationships as an adult.
With biology you get a connection to the past and future-—when I married and had children. It is the Law of Nature-and makes life meaningful-as God Designed—the teleological end creates the most happiness for both the natures of women and men—long term happiness. Any other hedonist acts—usually destroy long term happiness.
Biology gives those children a rich history where they can truly understand themselves in ways which not knowing their biological family prevents. Sperm donor children when grown—most were desperate to find their “biological” father. It is an innate desire—to know your genetic history.
Marx wanted to destroy all biological attachments— so loyalty never goes to your relatives-—it goes to the State. Biology—esp. the mother/child bond is extremely strong and families are the most likely to have support of each other to oppose the state. Artificial family units—not with a man and woman—will pervert the reality of any child—being sexist—where their world is warped so they will not be able to function in a more normal way with all human beings. Especially intimacy will be perverted. It can not be normal—because they don’t have “normal” modeled at the crucial formative years.
The agitprop to get mothers to desert and kill their own offspring has been ongoing for decades—the BF Skinner conditioning through textbooks and TV, since the Feminist movement. It is conditioning so women will be okay with giving their children away to the State. Abortion/daycare destroys maternal instincts and that connection needed for bonding and Trust.
Normalization of anything—is easy if you get the children while young. It creates the Worldview-—like the world when slavery and pederasty and homosexuality were “normal”. It took generations of education and Christian Ethics to rid the world of that slavery and pederasty and homosexuality—the ideas that they are”Good” and “NORMAL”.
Now, with technology (TV and the centralized school system)-—they are able to “Normalize” anything in one generation. Even in less time, since they are destroying the minds of children through cognitive dissonance in the schools and with drugs and sex ed.
I wonder if obamacare covers all of the invitro/surrugate costs for them to impregnate one of their lesbo or otherwise friends... yet. It is reproductive healthcare as the only way for them to reproduce “naturally.” I just threw up a little.
Gays "are becoming more numerous because I think ALL Democrats are 'softening', and all Democrats will one day be at least partially gay or lesbian. Democrats are all becoming bisexuals.
That's the ultimate goal of the political wing of the militant gay ideologues; a wave that is now close to cresting; to make their aberrant behaviors the new normal...a complete takeover of America's morals and values by way of enforced political correctness.
Religions will have to go or be absorbed to the New Normal. So, Dan Cathy, you represent what might be the 'last stand' against the encroaching deviance. Good for you!
You are a Good Man.
So, what will this country look like when gays and Democrats (same animals, really) win, take over? Certainly we will have nice [storfront] window dressings!"
I wonder why they don’t just use a regular sized bed...but if a cradle is what they need .....
When it becomes normal or accepted, you will see a lot of them change their mind. Many are doing it just to be different and stand out in the crowd. Being “normal” will take all that fun out of it for them.
The whole concept of 2 members of the same gender “thinking” that they can raise children is, well, obscene! Equally obscene is the LGBT crowd and those who support this public monstrosity, who push for equal rights based solely perverted sexual tendencies. I am a heterosexual who thinks that we need our own special affirmative action designator.
Great post and so very true. Homos & lesbians are the lowest form of degeneracy as pointed out in Romans 1:18-32, when God gives them over to their own reprobate desires, to enter into unnatural affections, men with men and women with women, doing those things which are an abomination & reprehensible. They will be judged and destroyed as a result of their sexual perversions.
Great post and so very true. Homos & lesbians are the lowest form of degeneracy as pointed out in Romans 1:18-32, when God gives them over to their own reprobate desires, to enter into unnatural affections, men with men and women with women, doing those things which are an abomination & reprehensible. They will be judged and destroyed as a result of their sexual perversions.
Several decades ago, I took special note when I happened to hear a woman lament the restrictions imposed on herself by "an accident of biology". Straight away I thought, "An accident of biology !?!?! An accident of biology !?!?!" Of course I said nothing. You get the picture.
But this is it. This explains everything.
They shouldn’t be asked, “When are you going to have kids?”.. they should be asked, “When are you going to make sure some poor, innocent child(ren) is motherless for life??”
No, they are not going to have kids. What kind of an idiot would ask two men that question?
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