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Romney's Strategy Isn't Working (It's the Conservatism, Stupid!)
Commentary ^ | 8/10/2012 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 08/10/2012 2:39:59 PM PDT by mojito

....The polls suggesting he’s seven or nine points behind are surely wrong, but given that there is only one national poll that shows him ahead, we have to presume Romney is behind. He should presume he’s behind. And given that there’s no good reason whatever for Obama to be leading, one can only presume that Romney’s strategy in July and now in August is not working.

Which is why the “we only talk about the economy” line, while superficially clever, was and is so foolish—stupid, even. Of course Romney wants to focus on that one issue. It’s the one that hurts Obama the most, and the one on which he seems to score the best. He and his team have an idea about the campaign. They need to win independents to win. Independents are less ideological. So don’t press the ideological buttons. Keep it simple....

Romney and his people prefer this strategy because it’s what is most comfortable to them. He is not, at root, an ideological person. Neither, at root, are they. And the data suggest this is not a time for a sharply ideological campaign. The data suggest Romney needs to run as Mr. Fix-It. That is how Romney prefers to view himself. So the two match perfectly.

Alas for him, that’s not how it works. If conservative ideology is a problem with some independents, it also has the virtue of providing those who use it to discuss the nation’s problems with a pulse. Romney has just learned over the past few weeks that he cannot limit the discussion to the topics he wishes to talk about, especially when his rival is spending $100 million trying to destroy him in the swing states and when the media are largely serving his [0bama's] purposes....

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Flailing and failing with the Mitten's gang.

Mr. Fix-it needs to get some tools for the mind - they're called "ideas," conservative ideas - and use them to explain the mess we're in to the American public.

But alas, I don't think Mittens has ever had an idea, let alone a conservative one, in all his years in politics.

1 posted on 08/10/2012 2:40:03 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

Every single poll, EVERY SINGLE POLL, except Rasmussen, is NOT surly wrong. Even Fox has Romney down 9. Let’s stop fooling ourselves. Look. I know we are upset, but let’s not stand in the rain and tell ourselves it isn’t raining.

But you are absolutely 100% correct. “It’s the conservatism, stupid”. And Romney is not only ill qualified to run on that, he is utterly inept.

The sooner we face the fact that we have been played by the GOP elite, the sooner we can recover. But if we sit here and spend the next few months saying “the polls are wrong”, well . . .2016 is going to be a replay of this nightmare.


2 posted on 08/10/2012 2:44:42 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: mojito
RomneyCARE News from TODAY


"RomneyCare 2.0 With costs rising fast, Massachusetts moves to dictate medical care
Under the plan, all Massachusetts doctors, hospitals and other providers must register
with a new state bureaucracy as a condition of licensure—that is, permission to practice.
They'll be required to track and report their financial performance, price and cost trends,
state-sanctioned quality measures, market share and other metrics."

3 posted on 08/10/2012 2:44:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: mojito
It's my understanding is Mittens has surrounded himself with a campaign team that's only familiar with MA politics and has no clue on how to appeal to a national audience. Mittens is totally clueless because he has no core beliefs nor does he understand what conservatism is (because everyone around him is a MA lib team of RINOs).
4 posted on 08/10/2012 2:45:58 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: mojito

With so many unemployed and gas and heating oil prices these three alone should result in Obama trailing the GOP Candidate by at least 15% nationwide!


5 posted on 08/10/2012 2:46:52 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mojito

Mitt has a language problem, and this is going to be another “Bush is stupid” to “Romney is boring”. We have got a dunce who has not done his ideological homework again, aside from what he would be distributed in colleges from Marxist teachers. Hence he is going to admire his opponents for their knowledge and completely misunderstand the conservatives. Talk about communication skills.

Professionalism and work in the American workplace is going to be thus going out of the window in favor of KGB liberal tactics who are going to use the workplace as their usual favorite political football field and means to snitch for the government, their homosexual “lovers”’ plight pimping them and lawyers.


6 posted on 08/10/2012 2:46:52 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Not a single LV poll has Obama at 50% or more. Guess what that means? Hint: he’s not ahead.


7 posted on 08/10/2012 2:48:08 PM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: mojito

with unions, government employees, illegals and welfare ..Democrats out number conservatives ...thats why nothing works. and dont forget all the fraud votes. we are dooomed


8 posted on 08/10/2012 2:49:07 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: JudgemAll

He’s just not making any ground against a man who by default should be behind at least 15%. If we didn’t know anything about the data and situation of the country we could easily look at the polls between the two candidates and assume the unemployment rate must be around 4.5%


9 posted on 08/10/2012 2:50:26 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mojito

“But alas, I don’t think Mittens has ever had an idea, let alone a conservative one, in all his years in politics.”

That pretty much says it all. I salute you.


10 posted on 08/10/2012 2:52:58 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: tsowellfan

Indeed, for all his faults and distrust, Gingrich knew how to talk the talk and think the think of the conservatives. The RINOs must be thoroughly screwed up to have tried to put forth “their One” instead.


11 posted on 08/10/2012 2:53:15 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: dalebert

i forgot to ad the race card to my list of obama voters. I sure hope Republicans are registering voters in battleground states


12 posted on 08/10/2012 2:54:54 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: RIghtwardHo

Look at the internals of the polls.


13 posted on 08/10/2012 2:55:29 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: mojito

Romney is as dull a candidate as John McCain was, only worse. And he probably doesn’t have the courage to pick a VP candidate who isn’t just as dull and uninspiring as he is himself, so there is not going to be a “Palin bounce” with this guy. I’m not surprised the polls show him getting his butt kicked. Republicans deserve exactly what is happening to them.


14 posted on 08/10/2012 2:58:43 PM PDT by Reddon
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To: Sola Veritas

15 posted on 08/10/2012 2:58:43 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Romney is a lousy candidate. Most of us knew this before the primaries. And southern conservatives may just stay home. But it’s who the RINOs wanted and they apparently control the party.


16 posted on 08/10/2012 3:03:09 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: dalebert
I sure hope Republicans are registering voters in battleground states

Me too. It should be happening during and between campaigns no matter who is running.

That said, a good candidate can win in a landslide without the going out and rushing to get people registered. A good Conservative who knows how to speak (as Ronald Reagan did) could explain our philosophy to every group from gays to blacks and even those on welfare and win them over.

The truth is most people no matter what group they come from would prefer to make it in life, reach their dreams, succeed and perhaps become rich and be able to call it their own - something they did all by themselves.

There will always be the lazy crowd of course but that group is much smaller than you think if we can separate those who lost faith in the system from those who are just lazy.

With the right candidate who is conservative that is articulate, we can win almost by default.

17 posted on 08/10/2012 3:03:41 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mojito
Don't let Romney's disastrous campaign cause you to vote for Obama. There is another choice - Tom Hoefling.

If you don't like having to choose between the two liberals running in the major parties, consider Tom.

P.S. The major parties won't be the major parties for too much longer.

18 posted on 08/10/2012 3:05:45 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: tsowellfan

Um we dont have that candidate.


19 posted on 08/10/2012 3:05:49 PM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: RIghtwardHo

>> The sooner we face the fact that we have been played by the GOP elite, the sooner we can recover.

What solution do you suggest, then?


20 posted on 08/10/2012 3:05:59 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: mojito

I’ll wait until September after the conventions are done before I take the polls real seriously. Carter actually led Reagan by almost double digits in June of 1980 and ended up getting crushed. Some pollsters even had it close right up to the election.


21 posted on 08/10/2012 3:07:22 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Reddon

And I think a lot of people are turned off by a mormon.


22 posted on 08/10/2012 3:08:24 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
And another thing I'm getting sick and tired of hearing be said without a response from the GOP, the Conservatives or from Romney is "we already tried it their way and it was their way that got us into this mess".

No, under Bush the unemployment rate averaged 4.7% which was desbribed by the democrats (as part of their daily mantra for 6 years) as "the worst economy since Hoover". 4.7%!

Well, their mantra worked and in 2006 Pelosi and Reid took over Congress. It was then that the economy took its dump and it never came back since then.

No, Obama! We have not tried our way since before 2006

23 posted on 08/10/2012 3:08:51 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mojito

Romney has a strategy?


24 posted on 08/10/2012 3:08:51 PM PDT by antonico
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To: Tau Food

>> If you don’t like having to choose between the two liberals running in the major parties, consider Tom.

Great! He can split the three percent protest vote with Virgil Goode and Ron Paul.

Now *there’s* a sound strategy for taking back America.


25 posted on 08/10/2012 3:09:12 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: mojito
You are ridiculous.

Of course, if Romney was up by 5 you would still be saying Romney was doing something wrong.

No, he is not perfect, as a candidate.

I must say, however, that the anti-Romney crowd sure will not go down as “perfect” conservatives.

Ronald Reagan supported Gerald Ford, after the primary.

That is the way the game is played.

Some of you WANT Obama to win.

26 posted on 08/10/2012 3:11:35 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Reddon

“Republicans deserve exactly what is happening to them.”

Except it isn’t ‘just’ the republicans. It’s the entire country...and maybe even the world. Four more years of obama means a probable islamic caliphate and the death of America.


27 posted on 08/10/2012 3:11:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: driftless2
Carter actually led Reagan by almost double digits in June of 1980 and ended up getting crushed

Mitt Romney is no Ronald Reagan. Because of that fact you had better draw that measuring line of yours quite a ways back closer to today. He's going to need a running start just to get close to where Reagan was in September. Romney is no Reagan.

28 posted on 08/10/2012 3:11:52 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: mojito
Right now, I think it's a different problem than you suggest.

It's not that Romney doesn't have ideas. I think it's because Romney's faith is preventing him from running the kind of campaign that is needed against Obama. Where McCain was soft because he was afraid, Romney is soft because it's his upbringing.

Romney is running a "Donny and Marie" campaign, while Obama is running a "Gangsta Rap" campaign.

-PJ

29 posted on 08/10/2012 3:12:07 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: MasterGunner01
It's my understanding is Mittens has surrounded himself with a campaign team that's only familiar with MA politics and has no clue on how to appeal to a national audience. Mittens is totally clueless because he has no core beliefs nor does he understand what conservatism is (because everyone around him is a MA lib team of RINOs).

So true
30 posted on 08/10/2012 3:13:01 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: mojito; All

Romney losing.

You don’t like Romney and won’t vote for him so you should all be happy then.


31 posted on 08/10/2012 3:14:17 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: mojito

Romney can’t campaign as a conservative because he is not one.
Every now and then he uses a conservative word but doubt he even knows what the words mean.
He has a record and it is not conservative.


32 posted on 08/10/2012 3:15:37 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

>> And I think a lot of people are turned off by a mormon.

A little maybe, but not nearly the way I’m turned off by a half-muslim, half-black-liberation-theology racist marxist.


33 posted on 08/10/2012 3:16:04 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: MestaMachine
There is a gaggle of vigorous posters at FR who seem to accept that as a fair trade in order to ‘teach the GOPe a lesson’. If you point that out, they rush to accuse you of being a Rombot or having your head up an anatomical orifice of Romney. There is also the small platoon of Obamaroids who will ridicule you for even suggesting that four more years of the little barry bastard commie boy will end free elections, so teaching the GOPe a lesson will be a rather pyrrhic victory.
34 posted on 08/10/2012 3:17:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: mojito
I was listening.

Rush Goes On the Record with Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren (December 2011)

Here's the big problem, Greta, for the Republicans. And I am a lone wolf on this. The rule of thumb in elections, both parties, 40 percent are going to vote Democrat automatically, whatever you do, 40 percent are going to vote Republican, automatic, no matter what you do. And in the middle, who do we have? The precious, God love them, independents and the moderates. And they are the targets. They are the focus of every election. And our brilliant campaign consultants tell our candidates they are the ones that know how to go get a majority of those independents. And we have, as Republicans, put ourselves in prison to this whole silly notion that you only win elections by moving to the center and getting great independents. Fine and dandy, but if you squander your base in the process, you haven't a prayer.

The Republican Party is trying to do something in this primary that is unprecedented. They're trying to split the conservative vote and win the primary with a moderate, with Romney. It's the other way around. You consolidate your base and then you move to the center in the general. The Republican establishment has decided they don't want any part of conservatism. And this is really not new. People are surprised to hear this, but the Republican Party formative event with conservatism is Goldwater's landslide defeat. That's what they think of when they think conservative. They don't think Reagan. They think Goldwater.

They believe what the inside-the-Beltway philosophy is about conservatives. They're racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, Southern hayseed hicks. They're pro-lifers. They're embarrassing to have to go to the convention with them. And they're just embarrassed to have those kind of people in the party. They're dumb. They're not erudite. They're not educated in Ivy League schools. We'll take their votes on election day, but we really don't want to hang around with them. We don't want anybody in Washington thinking that we're really that close to them and aligned with them. So in the process -- you know, it's a very sophisticated electorate. The Republican primary voter can sense that the Republican Party really doesn't like them, really doesn't want them, thinks that they are the route to defeat. That's the problem in a nutshell. The Republican establishment thinks that a conservative nominee is the route to defeat because they think Goldwater landslides are going to happen because they believe what the popular misconception the left has created of conservatives -- they think everybody thinks that.

35 posted on 08/10/2012 3:17:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dalebert
I sure hope Republicans are registering voters in battleground states

Unfortunately Romney does nothing to excite the conservative base where the real workers reside --They may vote for him but don't look for any campaigning effort unless he does something to stimulate this base he is going have a tough time defeating the Obama machine
36 posted on 08/10/2012 3:17:52 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Kansas58
Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, democrats, republicans.

We're in uncharted territory these days. This is just not one of those typical republican vs democrat elections where if we lose "oh well, maybe next time".

We've been downgraded for the first time in history under this current pResident. The unemployment rate alone should by default put a typical candidate whether it be Ford, McCain or Sarah Palin ahead at least 15%-20%.

Sorry, Romney's running a terrible campaign. There should be no conflicting polls. Somehow what should be a referendum on Obama appears to be becoming a referendum on Romney. That's quite the accomplishment for Obama Team.

Romneybots should be embarrassed.

37 posted on 08/10/2012 3:18:17 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Nervous Tick

This is from 2006 but probably still pretty valid -

Gallup poll: Two thirds of Americans not ready for a Mormon president
A Gallup poll taken last month has found that 66 percent of people questioned feel that the US is not “ready’’ for a Mormon president and 29 percent said the US is ready. Sixty-four percent said the US is not ready for an Asian president. On the other hand, 61 percent said the US is ready for a woman as president.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2006/10/two_thirds_of_a.html


38 posted on 08/10/2012 3:18:44 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
And I think a lot of people are turned off by a mormon

Wonder if they know Obama is a Muslim
39 posted on 08/10/2012 3:19:30 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: mojito
Romney will win the election. Let us support him and not spout the Obama misinformation. If Obama can get someone to hate or ridicule Romney that is another boost for Lord Obama. Hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent to spread the lies. People are hired to do this work. Millions buys lots of misinformation agents.
40 posted on 08/10/2012 3:21:06 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: tsowellfan
Sorry, Romney's running a terrible campaign. There should be no conflicting polls. Somehow what should be a referendum on Obama appears to be becoming a referendum on Romney. That's quite the accomplishment for Obama Team.

Romneybots should be embarrassed.

^ THIS ^


41 posted on 08/10/2012 3:21:15 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Kansas58
Mr. RomneyCARE cannot win. THAT is why he was chosen.

He is a LOSING candidate, and that makes him PERFECT for the DNC.

Mitt Romney wins much coveted Jimmy Carter endorsement

Gore Praises Romney's 'Climate Protection Plan'

Carville(D):
"It's a feel-good story, this Romney thing.
Romney is an ascendant guy
."

Sen. John Kerry (D) to Don Imus on RomneyCARE:
"I like this health care bill".

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) on RomneyCARE:
"To come up with a bipartisan plan in this polarized environment is commendable."

George Soros Wants Mitt Romney

42 posted on 08/10/2012 3:22:10 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: mojito

Mitt and his people are tone deaf. Blew an opportunity during the Chick-Fil-A instance to declare conservative values and back people’s rights. A great opportunity to attack the left as intolerant and unconstitutional A-holes.

Should have attacked Rahm et al on the idea they could “deny” a business license due to a personal belief. Isn’t this kind of difference you would DIE to point out?

Another HUGE mistake, in my opinion, was the initial response to the LYING AD with that jerk “husband” who let his wife die.

MASSIVE opportunity to hammer the left. Instead, his stupid spokesperson said, “we’ll, if he lived in MA, she’d have been covered under Romneycare”.

REALLY? Lame, lame and beyond lame.


43 posted on 08/10/2012 3:22:11 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: uncbob

Hard to tell since I didnt vote for Obama. I held my nose to vote for McCain. I won’t be holding my nost to vote for Romney but will be ringing my hands. Our nation will fail with another Deomcrat President. I am still trying to figure out how Obama makes mandates for everything and no one in congress stops him. seems to me the balance of power is lost.


44 posted on 08/10/2012 3:23:41 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: ilovesarah2012

>> Gallup poll: Two thirds of Americans not ready for a Mormon president

Did Gallup do a poll on how ready America is to be destroyed by a full-blown marxist totalitarian who thinks *he’s* god? If so, how did it come out?


45 posted on 08/10/2012 3:24:07 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: mojito

Here is a report on how well the Romney strategy is working.

On Wednesday, I drove from Central Virginia to Western Maryland. On Friday I returned — 250 miles up and 250 miles back.

I drove through three states: Virginia, West Virginia and Maryland.

I drove on Interstate highways and I drove on local streets and roads.

During that entire trip, I saw no Romney bumper stickers — not one. I saw only one Romney lawn sign — just one.

Something is terribly wrong with the Romney campaign.


46 posted on 08/10/2012 3:24:16 PM PDT by Oak Grove
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To: tsowellfan
"no Reagan"

I realize that all too well. However, I'll still wait until September before I start worrying.

47 posted on 08/10/2012 3:24:38 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: mojito

I have seen this movie before ... in 1996 with Dole ... in 2008 with McCain.

Gutless politicians are gutless.

Republicans are gutless.


48 posted on 08/10/2012 3:25:19 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Nervous Tick

This was from 2006. Obama wasn’t on the radar. I’ll take a mormon over a muslim, but not by much.


49 posted on 08/10/2012 3:25:26 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: mojito
Mr. Fix-it needs to get some tools for the mind - they're called "ideas," conservative ideas - and use them to explain the mess we're in to the American public.

It is utterly mind boggling that Mittens is doing so badly against probably the most dangerous, most socialist, most Marxist, most dictator like President in the history of this country and he can't even manage more that a couple or points or so swap back and forth from week to week for the lead with the greatest liar and crook this country has ever known in the WH.

It is so incredible that he isn't running away with the poll numbers instead of just barely keeping his eyebrows even with the water line every so often, or put another way, floundering in shallow water. He is going to fool around and let Obama win. The more folks learns about Mittens the less they like him. When liberals have a choice between a real liberal like Obummer and a liberal RINO like Romney it is no small wonder who they are going to choose. And conservatives don't trust or like him!

There is just too much about Romney that makes our side of the aisle either sick at their stomachs or very ill at ease. He is shaping up to be Obamas near equal in philosophy it would appear. Not much real difference between the two, IMHO.

50 posted on 08/10/2012 3:25:26 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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