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So....We like Paul Ryan?
self | august 11, 2012 | beebuster2000

Posted on 08/11/2012 5:32:45 AM PDT by beebuster2000

So what about freepers? we like paul ryan? i like what he says, i just wonder if all Romney has done is given a bigger target to he whose name may not be spoken.


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1 posted on 08/11/2012 5:32:55 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: beebuster2000

If you’re interested in his voting record -

http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm

I can live with him, though I was praying it would be West.


2 posted on 08/11/2012 5:34:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: beebuster2000

Absolutely


3 posted on 08/11/2012 5:34:46 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: beebuster2000
With this pick Mitt Romney has made his intentions clear, he will run this campaign on the economy, and with Paul Ryan on the ticket that means control of deficits and debt, a commitment to the electorate to restrain spending and which in turn explicitly includes reform of entitlements. Ryan since the 2010 election has been publicly declaring that it should be the strategy of the Republican Party to work with Obama where possible but, anticipating that would not be possible, to offer the electorate a clear choice. That is why he presented his competing budgets, to make explicit the choice.

In other words this choice should reassure many conservatives that it will be the strategy of the campaign to depart from the passive aggressive approach of the John Boehner House of Representatives and embark on an explicit attack on the Obama economy. I hope the attack also includes a indictment of Obama as a rank socialist, a radical Alinsky redistributionist whose definition of "transformation" ultimately means the death of capitalism and democracy. I fear this is unlikely for these reasons which follow. I also hope that this attack includes a clear warning to the people of the existential threat facing the nation recently described by Marc Steyn as a "death spiral."

Many of us question why Romney has been relatively passive in his campaign against Obama when he was ruthlessly aggressive in his attacks which brought down competing Republicans in the primaries. I think his advisors tell him that he is pursuing two different electorates in the primaries as opposed to the general. In the primaries one is dealing with a committed base who want red meat and in the general one seeks to enlist the independents and undecideds who supposedly resist negative campaigns. I think this is much overblown. History reveals that truly vicious negative attacks such as those waged by Lyndon Johnson against Barry Goldwater were extremely effective with independents who became convinced that Goldwater would blow up the world. I believe that successful negative campaigns do not experience blowback when the candidate who wages it is likable. I think that both Ryan and Romney have the kinds of personas that will shield them from such criticism if they choose to attack, but that, of course, will be Ryan's job for which I think he is well-suited if he is temperamentally fit.

Ryan will not be flummoxed in the debate and he is very unlikely to make any serious gaffes on the stump so, from a practical political point of view, he fulfills the first criteria for a vice presidential pick, he will likely do no harm. Of course, that consideration follows only after the pick can be confidently presented as the man who can succeed to the presidency in the event of tragedy. Ryan fills those requirements splendidly.

His selection focuses the nation on the state of the economy. That is the terrain on which Romney has elected to run, probably at the expense to some minor extent of litigating the social issues. I am a social conservative in many respects as well as a fiscal conservatives but I am not concerned in this cycle about the ticket concentrating on spending, taxes, and jobs because I believe that the nation is careening toward a fiscal cliff from which there could be no recovery which would satisfy a conservative. This is a question of saving democracy and capitalism not advancing social issues which will die with the Republic-apart always from abortion which remains a dealbreaker for me.

I am concerned that the candidates will look like two nerds in a pod. Balancing that is the knowledge that Ryan is extremely likable, extremely telegenic, and therefore able to carry a negative message against Obama without appearing mean-spirited. Both of these guys are tall, physically attractive, physically fit and not the caricature by any means of nerds.

No candidate, of course, comes without negatives and Ryan's budget plan does open the door to demagoguery from the left but that is only the kind of demagoguery we get with Ryan rather than the kind of demagoguery we would get with another pick. In other words, we know how our enemy operates and if we are going to be compelled to wage a campaign against demagoguery let us at least do it when the subject matter is the budget.

My other choice for the slot was Marco Rubio and either man would have the advantage of being the right age in 2020 to make a credible candidate. I believe we are going to win the election this cycle and, if Romney can perform credibly, the next. But I am extremely concerned about the downstream effect of the demographic wave that is engulfing the nation with immigrants who simply do not share the culture, language, or understanding of the rule of law, of capitalism, of democracy all of which are part of our national fabric. Those who are not immigrants are being "transformed" at a frightening pace into welfare and entitlement dependents who will be likely to vote their purses.


4 posted on 08/11/2012 5:34:55 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: beebuster2000

I like Paul Ryan. Since the polls are showing that jobs and the deficit are top concerns of Americans, this seems like a pick that will bring a light to this that Romney himself may not have been able to accomplish.


5 posted on 08/11/2012 5:35:33 AM PDT by kempster
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To: beebuster2000

out of all the contenders being bandied about, Ryan was my #1 choice.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 5:36:06 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: beebuster2000
WE probably don't particularly care one way or the other. Ryan's assignment took him into the tax milieu so we might suppose folks who like the tax stuff he came up with might like him. Others might not.

What's his position on Right To LIfe and is he willing to suppress his urges regarding RTL while he runs with a godless, soulless baby killer?

Still can't get my vote ~ not even if he had Jesus running with him.

7 posted on 08/11/2012 5:36:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: beebuster2000

This isn’t news and you have capitalization problems.


8 posted on 08/11/2012 5:36:24 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: beebuster2000

Hell yes, we like Paul Ryan.


9 posted on 08/11/2012 5:36:27 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: nathanbedford
We interrupt this thread with BREAKING NEWS... Ken Brockman reporting--

Paul Ryan has been named Mitt Romney's VP running mate... and we now take you to the Senate Rotunda for remarks by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid--

Well, I now can report that an anonymous caller told me... that Paul Ryan beats his wife with a fireplace poker--

Also, I was told Paul Ryan... is know for browsing the world wide web for child pornography--

And he secretly runs... a covert dog fighting ring in a barn outside Jamesville, Wisconsin--

I get no joy from this information and report it... simply as my duty to be a good American!

We now take you to Joe Soptic... for his comments on Senator Reid's facts--

Wow, Senator Reid, I am so awed by your truth, I find I must also report that when Mitt Romney was killing my wife... Paul Ryan was his lookout and getaway driver--

And we also have remarks by Stephanie Cutter... on the Ryan selection--

Paul Ryan was the dirty dog... that photoshopped me into that photo... with President Obama!

And he doctored that conference call with Joe Soptic... editing my voice in to it when I have never met nor talked to Joe Soptic at any time in my whole life!

President Obama has also spoke out about Paul Ryan... saying he welcomes the Congressman to the race--

Paul Ryan brings a wealth of talent to this election... Talent, I say, in championing legislation that will give billionaires untold trillions of dollars in tax cuts, destroy Medicare and Medicare, starve the poor and elderly in doing away with Food Stamps, remove from the voter rolls all Blacks, Hispanics and Gays. And finally, Ryan will ramp up the continuing total war the GOP has on women and their reproductive rights. It is "Romnyhood & Ryan, Rape and Pillage" for the Radical Right-Wing GOP!

Now, we must stop all these negative attack ads... on me and get back to trashing the evil Romney and his spawn from hell, Paul Ryan!

There you have all the BREAKING NEWS this objective journalist can report. We now return you to this thread already playing... This has been Ken Brockman reporting.

10 posted on 08/11/2012 5:37:11 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: laweeks

I think Ryan will be great. Anybody the GOP puts up is gonna get “ the treatment” from the media. Ryan has been great at getting under OBama’s skin. It might cause another “ you didn’t build that” moment.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 5:37:45 AM PDT by keckkw
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To: beebuster2000

I think there are some freepers who wanted Romney to pick a liberal female governor of a blue state, so that they can continue to moan and whine about him. I am also waiting for people to claim that Ryan is a Soros stooge on the CFR who is really a Russian manchurian candidate.

I think it is a good, solid choice.


12 posted on 08/11/2012 5:38:01 AM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: beebuster2000

My fav was West but I was more concerned he would pick pasty Pawwwlenty. Thank God it is Ryan! I am very happy with that choice...I didn’t even mind the 1:54AM news breaking on my cell phone waking me up!!!


13 posted on 08/11/2012 5:38:56 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: muawiyah

Do you think that Ryan and people who will vote for the ticket are Satanist?


14 posted on 08/11/2012 5:40:08 AM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: muawiyah

You don’t approve of Jesus because he couldn’t swim! Why else would he walk on the water?


15 posted on 08/11/2012 5:40:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Perdogg

All, or some? How about yourself ~ do you consider yourself the sort of Satanist we should really be concerned with?


16 posted on 08/11/2012 5:41:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: beebuster2000

Yep! I like Ryan!


17 posted on 08/11/2012 5:41:39 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: beebuster2000
Watching MSNBC.

Howard Fineman looks like a pig.

18 posted on 08/11/2012 5:43:07 AM PDT by eCSMaster ('Nancy Pelosi is a DINGBAT.' - Gov. Sarah Palin)
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To: 4everontheRight

Great Pick!

GO GET ‘EM!


19 posted on 08/11/2012 5:43:07 AM PDT by juggernaut
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To: nathanbedford

Very well stated post!


20 posted on 08/11/2012 5:43:38 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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