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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Colofornian
The Mormon Tubercular Choir..

We've got the Mormon Babblenackle Choir right here.

2,881 posted on 08/13/2012 6:26:59 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: nicmarlo

10,000 who showed up yesterday in Michigan to hear Romney/Ryan.
_____________________________________

They came to hear Ryan, sweetie...

I’m talking about the rallies where Willard is by his liberal lonesome...

Nobody’s killing themselves to get to those...


2,882 posted on 08/13/2012 6:27:46 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Graybeard58

Jim - We’ll see if my other post to you was correct or not (That people fear to call you what they call the rest of us.).
***They’re bootlickers


2,883 posted on 08/13/2012 6:28:15 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: nicmarlo
"I...."I"....."I"...."I" see"

Frankly, my dear...I don't give a damn what you see.

Joseph Smith began the mormon religion in hatred agains Christianity with his own words.

18 My object in going to ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects
was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get
possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who
stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time
it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
 19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: “they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.”
History of the Church, Vol. 1, Chapters 1-5

Open your eyes to THAT!

2,884 posted on 08/13/2012 6:28:36 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: nicmarlo

I think you need a mirror and pray that the Holy Spirit remove the scales from your eyes.
***I’m not the one who sees knives & hammers where there are simply words. Get a grip.


2,885 posted on 08/13/2012 6:30:25 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo; sf4dubya; All

I’ll save the dirt diggers some time. I have voted pragmatically many times.

I understand pragmatism. I understand the theory that politics is the art of the possible. I once subscribed to the theory that the worst Republican is better than the best Democrat and that we must vote Republican to hold onto the majority, even if we have to vote for RINOs. I did my duty, held my nose and voted the RINO party line.

Then disaster struck. The Republican majority filled with RINOs turned out to be no better than the democrats and we quickly lost the majority as conservatives were turned off by their many betrayals and failure to even hold the line, much less cut!!

Those who wish to continue voting pragmatically may be my guest, but count me out. It’s a proven loser of a theory. And Karl Rove & Company can KMA about the art of the possible!! This is REBELLION!!

To hell with two-faced, lying politicians. I’ll place my faith in God, not any political party. With God, ALL things are possible!!

I’ll vote Republican when they run republican pro-life conservative candidates. No more Bushes!! No more Doles!! No more McCains!! No more Swartzeneggers!! And NO ROMNEY!! FUMR!! Abortionist/homosexualist statist RINO pukes are worse than democrats because they destroy the movement!!

Abortionism, homosexualism, gun grabbing, socialized healthcare, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, global warming, liberal judges, etc, brought to us by lying liberal progressive RINOS is too much to bear!!

Running Romney is a flat out betrayal of everything we stand for!!

Vote straight conservative and no matter who wins the presidency we either hold his feet to the fire with our conservative majority or we impeach his usurping treasonous ass!!

We are the resistance!!


2,886 posted on 08/13/2012 6:31:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Graybeard58

Mr. Robinson is our host. I learned as a young man to respect a host and I have done so since I began writing here. And in my opinion, he has been very gracious.

I have neither tried to convince anyone to vote for Mr. Romney. As stated, I was not very fond of him from the beginning. I found his flopping on salient, conservative issues disconcerting and frankly, still do.

Mr. Robinson has stated his position and I respect it.

Others on this thread- have gone to great lengths to not simply state their feelings, but to bash and demoralize an entire people due to their religious beliefs. The constant barrage is not foreign to me.

While Mr. Robinson stated his beliefs and left it at that, the others who have tried to bully and malign could learn a lot from his example.

I will continue to stand up and speak, which is my G*d given right.

Neither you or any other guest here will stop me.

Finally- I am sorry your parents did not raise you better. Had they lived long enough to be “old coots”, perhaps you wouldn’t speak with such disdain and hatred.

In my opinion, you are the antithesis of the message of the Christ.


2,887 posted on 08/13/2012 6:35:43 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: Graybeard58; Colofornian
Tubercular Choir..Mormon Babblenackle Choir...


2,888 posted on 08/13/2012 6:38:25 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Jeff Head; greyfoxx39; All
Colo...whay was there a reforemation? What did they reform? Why did the Protestants, protest? They made it clear back then...it was because there had been a general apostacy away from Christ's teachings

Jeff, please tell me you know the difference 'tween a reformation and a so-called "restoration from scratch?"

The Bible has all kinds of verses discussing apostasy; NONE of which are a "universal (total) apostasy" -- And I've examined every single Biblical verse cited by the Lds church which is meant to "prove" such a complete apostasy.

Jeff, guy, it all comes down to whether you're going to honor the apostle Paul, or subtly bill him as a "false prophet" -- for he prophesied in Ephesians 3:21: to him [God] be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.

The apostle Paul's prophesy here is that ALL generations of the Church would (and have) given God glory, for ever and ever!

Do you believe Ephesians 3:21 -- or not?

And if you do, and if the church was STILL giving glory to God, then, no, no total apostasy...which you know even the Lds technically don't adhere to that...given that they say the apostle John never died...and neither those "Nephite disciples." If they are still wanderin' the earth, they ne'er yielded their "priesthood" authority, did they, Jeff?

2,889 posted on 08/13/2012 6:41:03 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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To: Kevmo
And yet, just a few months later, Christ/HolySpirit condemned

The Holy Spirit condemned. Not the creature, but the Creator condemned.

It's not for you to condemn. It is not for me to condemn. God never told any one of us to condemn. He told us to preach the gospel, with humility, kindness, and love.

Philippians 2:

1 If there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassions,

2 make full my joy, that ye be of the same mind, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind;

3 doing nothing through faction or through vainglory, but in lowliness of mind each counting other better than himself;

4 not looking each of you to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others.

5 Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped,

7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men;

8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient even unto death, yea, the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name;

10 that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things on earth and things under the earth,

11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

15 that ye may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom ye are seen as lights in the world,

16 hold forth the word of life.

You don't hold the 'word of life'; you have hammers in your hand, beating people up who disagree with you. You're not humble, you're pompous and arrogant. You're not loving, you act with the same type of zealous hatred that an unbeliever acts. You're supposed to be as a light in the world, but you act as the darkness acts. I don't see Christian behaviors in many of you; I see no difference than liberal unbelievers.

2,890 posted on 08/13/2012 6:44:18 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Jim Robinson

And there friends, is a testimony of why this man will not vote for Mitt Romney without having to malign a faith.

It doesn’t matter how he feels about Mormons- there is plenty of reason not to support the Republican ticket without religious judgment.

Thank you Mr. Robinson for the ability to express myself here.

Though I am not a “bootlicker”, I am committed to Conservative principles and as I state repeatedly, I appreciate your hospitality.


2,891 posted on 08/13/2012 6:46:15 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: greyfoxx39

ditto to you to my post 2890


2,892 posted on 08/13/2012 6:48:40 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Jim Robinson
Vote straight conservative and no matter who wins the presidency we either hold his feet to the fire with our conservative majority or we impeach his usurping treasonous ass!!

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2,893 posted on 08/13/2012 6:49:14 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Well, that’s fine, TN. I really don’t care.

What I care about is not having Obama the Marxist in the White House for another four.

Toodles.


2,894 posted on 08/13/2012 6:51:56 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: CWSNTEXAS
the others who have tried to bully and malign could learn a lot from his example.

From one of the biggest bullies on FR...ROTFL at your dishonesty.

2,895 posted on 08/13/2012 6:53:45 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Sir, you’ve veered into the cornfield again. Please think these things through before you post. Is there someone there at home who could help you sort this things out. The numbers are not adding up right now, where your posts are concerned.


2,896 posted on 08/13/2012 6:56:16 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: CWSNTEXAS

You seem surprised.

I don’t know how you have missed 6 years of us giving our reasons for not voting for Romney.

Looking at your posts, you don’t spend much time in the conservative politics here, and almost zero in regards to Romney.

You don’t really seem to know freerepublic well at all, and you don’t even realize that so many of the posters that you are attacking here have been among the best in exposing Romney and have been doing it since at least 2006,and some for much longer.


2,898 posted on 08/13/2012 7:01:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be wary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

Amen, Jim.

And if urging ouright rejrection of a guy who was okay in principle, in the name of "gay rights," with forcing adoption agencies to cooperate with homosexuals "who love each other" is heresy, then call me a political heretic.

Pray for a plurality and vote for a plurality. It's the only hope for holding either of these disasters back.

2,899 posted on 08/13/2012 7:03:07 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Resettozero

ObAma and Axelrod applaud you.


2,900 posted on 08/13/2012 7:03:07 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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