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US Navy ship collides with oil tanker in Gulf
NBC News ^ | August 12, 2012

Posted on 08/12/2012 8:40:19 AM PDT by JerseyanExile

An oil tanker collided with a U.S. Navy destroyer near the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday but no one was hurt and shipping traffic in the waterway, through which 40 percent of the world's seaborne oil exports pass, was not affected, officials said.

"Both vessels are okay and the Strait of Hormuz is not closed, and business is as usual there," an Oman coast guard official told Reuters, declining to be named under briefing rules.

The collision nevertheless left a gaping hole in the starboard side of USS Porter, a guided-missile destroyer suffered, but no one was injured on either vessel, the U.S. Navy said in a statement. The collision with the Panamanian-flagged bulk oil tanker M/V Otowasan occurred at approximately 1 a.m. local time.

The cause of the incident is under investigation, the Navy said, adding that there were no reports of spills or leakages from either the USS Porter or the Otowasan.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnews.nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: collisionatsea; hormuzcollision; persiangulf; straitofhormuz; usnavy; ussporter
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1 posted on 08/12/2012 8:40:27 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

Damn. A score of promising Navy careers are now in ruins.


2 posted on 08/12/2012 8:42:22 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: JerseyanExile

Well, they do call the ship a destroyer. What the heck did the Navy expect it to do? Sheesh.


3 posted on 08/12/2012 8:44:25 AM PDT by llevrok (2012 : Elect Adults)
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To: SamAdams76

Yup!

Size matters.


4 posted on 08/12/2012 8:48:00 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: SamAdams76
"Damn. A score of promising Navy careers are now in ruins.

But what if some of the officers are LGBT, women or minorities? That would be racist AND sexist.

5 posted on 08/12/2012 8:49:08 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: JerseyanExile
Holy carp! That's some serious "damage". I don't think the local Maaco® Body Shop & Collision Center is going to be able to fix that *ding*, in a few days.
6 posted on 08/12/2012 8:49:32 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: SamAdams76

What was the name of that Truck Driving School? Truck Master?


7 posted on 08/12/2012 8:50:15 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Not a problem...it’ll buff right out.


8 posted on 08/12/2012 8:51:25 AM PDT by mrpotatohead
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To: JerseyanExile

WOW! That’s one hell of a dent.

Oh well, just rope off the deck, hang a tarp over it and send it back to BIW, they’ll fix it right up.


9 posted on 08/12/2012 8:51:51 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: SamAdams76

Old Army saying:”Shit runs downhill.” Methinks it applicable to Navy as well...


10 posted on 08/12/2012 8:52:13 AM PDT by donozark (I never trusted anyone above the rank of Corporal, including myself.)
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To: SamAdams76

Certainly damaged and it really won’t matter who is at fault.

I have an uncle who was on track to be an astronaut till he ditched a fighter jet in the Atlantic back in the 70s. He still had a very successful career in the Navy for another 20 years but the Astronaut thing evaporated overnight.


11 posted on 08/12/2012 8:53:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: llevrok
What the heck did the Navy expect it to do?

I think they expected it to destroy....something other than itself.

12 posted on 08/12/2012 8:54:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: SamAdams76
Collisions and groundings are usually pretty bad for the careers of those involved.

Back in WW2, my great-uncle ended up getting his first command because of a grounding. The first CO of the destroyer Bailey grounded her on some rocks off the Maine coast during her shake-down cruise, so he was relieved of command and my relative was given the ship.

13 posted on 08/12/2012 8:58:38 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: mrpotatohead

Bondo. A couple of tons ought to do it.


14 posted on 08/12/2012 8:59:20 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: cripplecreek
The U.S. Navy is very unforgiving with respect to accidents with their vessels. No matter whose fault it is, the commanding officer will pay a price as this incident will always be in his file - keeping him forever from the higher ranks.

To make it to the top in the Navy, you have to be very good AND very lucky. There are no allowances made for bad luck.

15 posted on 08/12/2012 9:01:19 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: JerseyanExile
Likely playing "chicken" on orders from Zero to raise the volatility of the Iran, Syria situation.

This sort of stuff used to go on all the time, at sea, near communist nations, and the commies would back down and turn off.

Now, it's the other way around, and the foreign shipping will ram the US warships, and do so with impunity.

There is no way an oil tanker could maneuver to ram a US destroyer if they tried, it is an incident where they refused to be bullied and cowed, a sea change in foreign attitude toward the United States.

16 posted on 08/12/2012 9:04:05 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Is this a boat with a lesbian driver?


17 posted on 08/12/2012 9:06:45 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Internet fun fact: There is 1 person named walter wawra in Kalamazoo, MI.)
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To: JerseyanExile
Methinks the title might be misleading. When you are struck in the side, a more appropriate title might be "US Naval Ship STRUCK BY oil tanker.

Particularly, this hit looks it might be near the stern, meaning the destroyer would have had the right-of-way. That said, it's lights out for the destroyer skipper.

18 posted on 08/12/2012 9:07:20 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: SamAdams76

As well they should be


19 posted on 08/12/2012 9:08:34 AM PDT by al baby (“If Barack Obama has a Harvard law degree, he didn’t earn that. Somebody else made that happen.”)
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To: SamAdams76

The investigation ruled the ditching to be an unavoidable result of equipment failure but there was some little procedural flaw in the way my uncle did it that the decision makers didn’t like.


20 posted on 08/12/2012 9:09:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: norwaypinesavage
"looks it might be near the stern"

Just forward of the Bridge....

21 posted on 08/12/2012 9:11:51 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Any grounding or collision is the end of the Captain’s career. Sorry to hear of this incident.


22 posted on 08/12/2012 9:12:08 AM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: llevrok

Technically it is called an Arleigh-Burke class Destroyer, but it’s main defensive systems are missiles, not deck guns or depth charges. One of the little friends that protects the carriers.

That big flat thing above the ‘gaping hole’ is one of the faces of the Phased Array Radar that comprises the AN/SPY-1 radar which is the ‘reach out and touch’ part of the missile system.

Based on the damage and the rippling in the hull and other superstructure, at least that face of the phased array radar is likely very much “uncalibrated” now. This is a lot of damage and I’d bet much more internal damage to critical defense systems exists. It will spend some time in port.


23 posted on 08/12/2012 9:15:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: JerseyanExile

That going to leave a mark.


24 posted on 08/12/2012 9:16:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: moose07

Which may indicate a starboard turn in front of the tanker...


25 posted on 08/12/2012 9:17:33 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Getting PT-109 split in half worked out OK for a Kennedy.


26 posted on 08/12/2012 9:18:20 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Grounding an Oldsmobile didn’t seem to have any long term effects on another.


27 posted on 08/12/2012 9:19:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Gaffer

Yep. (but there are four guns on deck. Lucky me, I got to shoot one during a family cruise)


28 posted on 08/12/2012 9:19:17 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: JerseyanExile
if the tanker was full, might that be about anchor lever???
29 posted on 08/12/2012 9:19:45 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: omega4179

The Spruance I was on and later left with an honorable in 93 went back to the PG later that year.

Several months after I got out, an acquaintance of mine ran down my phone and called me up. He had transferred on a little after I left but he kept in touch with some of the former crew.

He found out from one of them that the CO had ran the old tub aground on some reefs in the Indian Ocean and went silent for a couple of days. He hoped for a tide to lift him out. It never did. He finally called home to report his problem.

The next day, a chopper landed just long enough for a real captain to come on board and the commander to get on.

A few months back I was talking to some guy at my church who is an officer in Naval Reserves. He was active then. We got to talking some and the Nicholson reef incident came up. He confirmed the story as it was quite the hot topic in some circles.


30 posted on 08/12/2012 9:20:30 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: stormer

Thankfully it wasn’t in front of a carrier. Ooops..


31 posted on 08/12/2012 9:21:09 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: JerseyanExile
"Both vessels are okay ...

Our frikkin' destroyer certainly isnt! Didn't the guy making that statement actually look at the damage pictures before issuing it?

Or maybe we've finally figured out what happened to Baghdad Bob.
32 posted on 08/12/2012 9:21:20 AM PDT by tanknetter
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"Watch that tanker..."

"Tanker? What tanker?"

"That tanker!"

"Oh. Uh oh..."

33 posted on 08/12/2012 9:22:18 AM PDT by stormer
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To: JerseyanExile
You can go to the ship's webpage and see the commanding officer here Porter
34 posted on 08/12/2012 9:22:46 AM PDT by Pappy Smear (Steve King for Congress!)
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35 posted on 08/12/2012 9:22:50 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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Well, if we use the Liberal Democrats' twisted political logic on this... then CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NYT and the WaPo should be screaming Obama nearly sank a US Destroyer and an Oil Tanker and almost closed the Strait of Hormuz!
36 posted on 08/12/2012 9:25:02 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: moose07
Thankfully it wasn’t in front of a carrier. Ooops..

Can you say "Belknap" boys and girls?

Or "Hobson" for that matter ...
37 posted on 08/12/2012 9:25:17 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks JerseyanExile.
...near the Strait of Hormuz... Panamanian-flagged bulk oil tanker M/V Otowasan...

38 posted on 08/12/2012 9:26:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: JerseyanExile

Now it really does look like a tin can.

IMHO, where were the watches?, where was the OOD? Where was the helmsman? I’m surprised the close proximity warnings weren’t sounding nor the Phalanx not locking onto the approaching vessel.


39 posted on 08/12/2012 9:28:19 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Pappy Smear
You can go to the ship's webpage and see the commanding officer here Porter

My money's on the Command Master Chief taking the fall for this.
40 posted on 08/12/2012 9:28:19 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: stormer

Oh sh.t!,
can’t be good to be staring at up close and personal


41 posted on 08/12/2012 9:28:47 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Bender2

Nail on the head Bender.


42 posted on 08/12/2012 9:34:00 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: tanknetter
Belknap

You caught that one before it reached the audience! :)

43 posted on 08/12/2012 9:34:49 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: moose07

That might have started a couple of bar fights and gotten a few more guys in hot water. Although a carrier and this tanker are the same length, fully loaded the tanker weighs 3 times as much. Force = mass x acceleration.


44 posted on 08/12/2012 9:36:56 AM PDT by stormer
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To: tanknetter

I see the CO was originally Merchant Marine as a CMDR; XO a female CMDR; and the Command Master Chief served over 23 Strategic Deterrent floats aboard boomers from the Submarine community.


45 posted on 08/12/2012 9:39:59 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Liberty Valance
Re: Nail on the head Bender.

That's why the pay me... the big bucks, Liberty!

46 posted on 08/12/2012 9:40:08 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: bonfire

Realized they were, but remnants of earlier times and the odd “gotta blast a Somali pirate” kinda thing...main focus is the carrier, not itself.


47 posted on 08/12/2012 9:42:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: JerseyanExile

More photos and a video

http://gcaptain.com/navy-destroyer-collides-japanese/


48 posted on 08/12/2012 9:43:57 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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49 posted on 08/12/2012 9:44:28 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: carriage_hill

I have some Mexican friends who could Bondo that.


50 posted on 08/12/2012 9:46:49 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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