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US Navy ship collides with oil tanker in Gulf
NBC News ^ | August 12, 2012

Posted on 08/12/2012 8:40:19 AM PDT by JerseyanExile

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To: tanknetter

“My money’s on the Command Master Chief taking the fall for this.”

You are probably right. The Commander is black, the Exec Officer is female...


61 posted on 08/12/2012 10:25:01 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: KittyKares

t’would appear the MK1 eyeball was undergoing maintenance.


62 posted on 08/12/2012 10:27:49 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: ThirdMate

With a name like yours, I’ll defer to your judgement. I didn’t think davits were found forward.


63 posted on 08/12/2012 10:37:41 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: tanknetter

No, the Captain will take the hit for this one, along with the officer of the deck, and (perhaps) the helmsman.


64 posted on 08/12/2012 10:47:44 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook (uoted)
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To: tanknetter
Famous collisions in which the smaller warship was the loser:

1. The collision between USS FRANK E. EVANS (DD-754) and HMAS MELBOURNE (R-21) on 3 June 1969 killed 74 sailors aboard EVANS. The DD was cut in two by the carrier amidships and the front half sank. The afloat half was surveyed and deemed to badly damaged to repair. The hulk was towed from Subic Bay NSY and scuttled in deep water.

2. The collision between USS BELKNAP (CG-26) and USS JOHN F. KENNEDY (CV-67) in the Ionian Sea on 22 November 1975 killed 7 and injured 47 [1 killed on JFK]. All superstructure on BELKNAP above 01 level was removed by JFK's sponson and the wreckage doused in aviation fuel that led to the resultant fire on BELKNAP. BELKNAP was in Philadelphia NSY for $210 million in repairs from 1976 to 1980. She was sunk as a target as part of a SinkEx in 1998.

65 posted on 08/12/2012 10:52:46 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Slump Tester

They’ll do what they do then and blame lower ranking non-gay officers and enlisted NCOs.


66 posted on 08/12/2012 11:01:00 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: stormer

I spent 6-months on the USS LaSalle in the Persian Gulf back in the late 80’s.

As an Air Force guy on the staff of JTFME, it was an eye-opening experience.

What I do remember clearly was the huge tankers just plowing along and not paying anyone any mind. Had a few wander close by the ship and never respond to radio or other signals. . .like no one was home.

I asked a Navy black shoe about that and he told me third-world tanker crews would depart their station late at night or in the early hours, plug in the INS course guidance and then go to sleep. . .trusting the ships nav system and the fact they are so huge everyone would get out of their way.

Could be the US Navy ship had right-of-way but found out too late the tanker crew just wasn’t awake or gave a darn.


67 posted on 08/12/2012 11:03:34 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: ExNewsExSpook
No, the Captain will take the hit for this one, along with the officer of the deck, and (perhaps) the helmsman.

See #61

68 posted on 08/12/2012 11:04:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Slump Tester
But what if some of the officers are LGBT, women or minorities? That would be racist AND sexist.

You have a point.

69 posted on 08/12/2012 11:06:37 AM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Pappy Smear

Not to be too cynical. . .but with the commander a minority of some sort and the executive officer a split-tail, I think their careers will be protected.


70 posted on 08/12/2012 11:06:56 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Uriah_lost

One would think so. . .but as the ships webpage shows, the CO is a minority of some sort and the XO a female. . .not sure the Navy has the balls to remove BOTH or put a halt to their careers.


71 posted on 08/12/2012 11:09:26 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Paladin2
Getting PT-109 split in half worked out OK for a Kennedy.

His old man probably bought the Navy 10 new PT boats.

72 posted on 08/12/2012 11:09:39 AM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Paladin2

Nimitz grounded the destroyer Decatur on a sandbar in the Philippines in 1908. He was court-martialed and received a letter of reprimand. It was early enough in his career that he was able to overcome the setback through tireless effort in a lot of seemingly unglamorous assignments for the time: work on subs and oilers for almost 20 years.

I don’t know if anyone in today’s Navy could repeat Nimitz’s feat.


73 posted on 08/12/2012 11:20:38 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: MasterGunner01
Oops. left out this one.

3. The collision between USS HOBSON (DD-465/DMS-26) and USS WASP (CV-18) on 26 April 1952 killed 176 sailors aboard HOBSON, including the captain. There were 61 survivors. The DD was cut in two by the carrier amidships and the Halves rolled over and sank. The collision happened at night, 600 miles West of the Azores in the North Atlantic.

74 posted on 08/12/2012 11:33:49 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Surrounded_too
This was no accident.

Determined from someone sitting at a keyboard in their Mom's basement, no doubt.

The tanker is a floating bomb and is a new weapon of choice.

Crude oil isn't an explosive, and I don't know of a single instance of a crude tanker being used as a weapon.

Anything that comes ram-speed towards our ships should be sunk first and ask questions later, especially in hostile zones.

You have no idea what the Tanker's speed was or whether it had "turned toward" the destroyer; it well could have been five knots.

And as collision avoidance, "sinking" an approaching supertanker is physically impossible, especially for a Destroyer. The best decision is to stay out of their way.

So I ask for about the millionth time - what motivates people to post about subjects they don't know anything about?

75 posted on 08/12/2012 11:36:02 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Hulka
"Could be the US Navy ship had right-of-way but found out too late the tanker crew just wasn’t awake or gave a darn."

Small dogs are always nervous that someone will step on them or kick them and strongly tend to be always on the alert to scurry out of the way on short notice. Big dogs tend to just lie there as they know you are just going to trip over them if you don't know they are there..

Same with ships. In a small sailboat, stay out of the way of the commercial ships in the channel. If you are driving a destroyer and your carrier turns to start taking incoming planes, don't plan to cross the carrier's bow. Besides, carriers can easily win a race with shorter vessels if they hit the gas.

76 posted on 08/12/2012 11:46:21 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Strategerist
"what motivates people to post about subjects they don't know anything about?"

They feel an overwhelming drive to announce to the universe that they failed Physics?

77 posted on 08/12/2012 11:48:40 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MasterGunner01

Apparently the captain overruled the staff and decided to cut across the carrier’s bow instead of throttling back and passing behind. Oops.


78 posted on 08/12/2012 11:50:39 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MasterGunner01

79 posted on 08/12/2012 11:53:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

I always thought that fatboy Teddy capsized & sank his Oldsmobile.


80 posted on 08/12/2012 12:29:05 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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