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Posted on 08/13/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by blam
When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
August 13, 2012
By Jim Karger
When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands, is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.
And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands, which I often follow with the question, And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?
This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.
Nice fantasy. Its not happening.
If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so-subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition for the common good, it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.
The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.
And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who dont seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.
Also ignored (as if it didnt even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.
According to Public Intelligence:
for the last two years, the Presidents Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities. Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.
And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.
And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.
That is your choice
for the moment.
Thank you for posting that speech.
"...the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is looking for 46,000 rounds of ammunition for the National Weather Service."
Only 46,000 rounds? Hell I bet there’s more than a few Freepers with that many and that just in their BOB’s. ;-)
I keep guns for them to take, and I won’t resist.
Here’s the deal. The US isn’t some little country, like say Cuba. There is one federal government, and fifty state governments. There is a lot of territory for Marines, and even the Army to cover, even in their armored vehicles, with all their technology. There are a lot of streets for them to roll down, and a lot of houses for them to search. There are a lot of guns they won’t get. We don’t have enough military to occupy the entire United States perpetually. That’s where things change. One knife can get one M-16, and an M-16 can get more, and on until others have armored equipment. But the people won’t be alone. Remember state national guards, and state police, and county police, and militarized forces that won’t all go along with a military overthrow of the United States? Remember the fall of the Soviet Union? One other thing to keep in mind. Neocons aren’t the only American citizens who won’t be happy about giving up their firearms. There are a lot of people from all political vents who don’t care to have their firearms pried out of their hands. It takes one hell of a military to disarm 100 million citizens with multiple arms, and then occupy that territory to make certain they have all the firearms. Once citizens decide they aren’t going to cooperate, that game is up.
The author is a corporate lawyer who ran away to the high desert of Mexico.
And no doubt a whiney, panty-wetting liberal. Neo-cons are hardly likely to own any gun, much less an AR. Neo-cons are socialist Jews who figured out in the late 60’s and early 70’s that they weren’t going to keep the US fighting Israel’s battles through the Democratic party, so they became “conservatives.” They have very little overlap with the domestic social issues of the GOP on gun control, abortion, etc.
I prefer to think of the brave souls in the Warsaw Ghetto who had but a few guns and held off the Nazi mechanized army for weeks. Imagine what a better armed and fed population would do.
No, the gun grabbing left would love to instill fear, but as long as people have their guns, the government will have great fear of the public. As it should be.
We have found out to our dismay that in pissant countries like Iraq, even the major powers get tired of being picked off by an angry population.
No, they’ll come for our guns, and we won’t be here. The battles will be at a time and place of our choosing, not theirs and it won’t be the way they imagine and it won’t be against whom they think they’ll be assaulting.
I’d prefer if they didn’t come at all and they would realize the error of their ways prior to something that cannot be taken back. First blood has already been drawn. Brian Terry is proof of that. Let that be the end of it. If the Government persists down this road they have chosen, we all lose.
The Government has no business dictating restrictions and other infringements of 2nd Amendment Rights on people. They are crossing the Rubicon by doing so. I fear that they will set foot upon the shore of no turning back. Once that happens, our nation is lost and war will rule the day. It will be a sad day for the Republic when that happens.
That is nonsense.
The people will rise up and fight THE GOVERNMENT. Would you want to be delivering mail if the government is tyrannizing the people? Would you want to be a building inspector? A tax assessor?
Our Founders CAUSED their own monarchy to use its army against them. They did so by disobeying edicts which infringed fundamental human rights to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and the right to keep and bear arms.
Rather than submit, they fought. When it made sense to do so, they stood shoulder-to-shoulder and fired multiple volleys at a superior force. In most cases, however, they located riflemen in the trees and picked off enemy officers. They attacked mercenaries on Christmas morning, defeating them handily after marching through ice and snow all night.
George Washington became the "Father of our Country" not by dying for his country, but by making the other SOB die for his country.
If, due to practical issues, I am forced to surrender my guns (lost recently in an unfortunate boating accident), I know where to find more. Every seargent's patrol car in Los Angeles has an assault rifle in the trunk. If the government arms the "Weather Service" that will make more arms available to the people.
On that day, Mr Karger will discover the power of the 3% of the gun owning populace that will neither submit or surrender. Like most liberal tyrants, Karger has no idea of the hell that would be unleashed on that day upon the minions of the gun grabbers.
Liberals only imagine a one dimensional war...where their intended victims die in place like dead fools should. Only war has many dimensions and to expect your enemy to react like you think he should is an invitation to an early grave.
The Kargers of the world will discover that it's time to feed the hogs.
There is no way the government can confiscate over 300 million firearms in the US.
The government is pretty incompetent at everything it does.
This is the same government that allowed over 13 million illegals to invade our country and won’t deport them because it wouldn’t be prudent to deport so many people.
The same thing applies to guns.
No public support for it and it is logistically impossible.
If confiscation takes place, it won’t be because of overt action, but a policy of attrition.
Yes, they will fire on US citizens. Google the “29 Palms Questionnaire”, circa 1998 or 99. Marines were asked if they would fire on American citizens if they were given a lawful order. Most answered yes. I’ve not seen this questionnaire since I first read in in the late 80s so I’ll need to find a copy if one is available. But what I’ve written above is really close to it.
Who owns guns?
Beat me to it, had to look it up.
That is why we will die rather than surrender
Gosh, glad i knew it by memory! just kidding,, great minds think alike! And i agree, it’s our birthright.
And our GENERALS are now openly waving their gay pride flags.. If this scenario plays out before the entire military goes gay, there's gonna be a few dead high-ranking fags scattered about.