Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
The Daily Reckoning ^ | 8-13-2012 | Jim Karger

Posted on 08/13/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by blam

When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over

August 13, 2012
By Jim Karger

“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.

And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”

This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.

Nice fantasy. It’s not happening.

If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so-subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition “for the common good,” it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.

The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.

And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who don’t seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.

Also ignored (as if it didn’t even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.

According to Public Intelligence:

“…for the last two years, the President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of ‘homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.’ Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being ‘necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities’ under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.”

And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.

And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day — for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.

That is your choice… for the moment.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012issues; banglist; bloodoftyrants; civilwar; cwii; cwiiping; deadjackbootswalking; democrats; disarmement; donttreadonme; donutwatch; elections; guncontrol; guns; jackhinson; jbt; letsroll; libertyordeath; lping; molonlabe; police; policestate; rapeofliberty; revolution; tyranny; waronliberty; youwillnotdisarmus
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 561-580581-600601-620621-632 next last
To: NFHale
Thanks for being there. And Welcome Home.

You're welcome, mate. But it was a duty and honor to so serve, and, for the most part a pleasure. I'd have rather been shootin' and sqyuashing stuff in my 52-ton sports car than in most other places an eighteen-year-old could be found in the Nineteen-Sixties.

Thanks too for the welcome home. But I still get out of the cage every now and then, and though I'm semiretired, I'm not yet in dirt nap mode.

601 posted on 08/16/2012 3:52:21 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 599 | View Replies]

To: NFHale
Teach. Show kids what Americans are made of. This ain’t over by a long shot.

Appleseed Project.

602 posted on 08/16/2012 3:54:07 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 599 | View Replies]

To: archy
Good evening. I hope you are doing well.

Over 600 posts. I didn't think it would get to 100. Apparently this guy Karger struck a nerve (a raw nerve).

5.56mm

603 posted on 08/16/2012 5:09:23 PM PDT by M Kehoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 602 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe
Drones, anyone?

Watch for a rash of 'gas explosions'...

Sacremento, CA, 2001- Bowers


604 posted on 08/16/2012 5:12:03 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 511 | View Replies]

To: NFHale; Travis McGee
“...In other words, “this is a really bad idea”....” If it wasn’t, they’d already be on it. They’re wicked and evil, but they aren’t stupid.

About Jim Karger : Family

Jim Karger lives with his wife and ten dogs in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico. He travels worldwide to lecture and train managers at all levels. Jim's wife, Kelly, is the founder of Save A Mexican Mutt, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to rescuing street dogs and finding adoptive homes, as well as conducting weekly low-income spay-neuter clinics. The website is www.saveamexicanmutt.org.

605 posted on 08/16/2012 5:20:47 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 446 | View Replies]

To: NFHale; Travis McGee
“...In other words, “this is a really bad idea”....” If it wasn’t, they’d already be on it. They’re wicked and evil, but they aren’t stupid.

About Jim Karger : Family

Jim Karger lives with his wife and ten dogs in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico. He travels worldwide to lecture and train managers at all levels. Jim's wife, Kelly, is the founder of Save A Mexican Mutt, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to rescuing street dogs and finding adoptive homes, as well as conducting weekly low-income spay-neuter clinics. The website is www.saveamexicanmutt.org.

606 posted on 08/16/2012 5:21:00 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 446 | View Replies]

To: M Kehoe
Good evening. I hope you are doing well.

Well enough, my FRiend.

Over 600 posts. I didn't think it would get to 100.

And not just here. In other places as well.

607 posted on 08/16/2012 5:22:56 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 603 | View Replies]

To: archy
And not just here. In other places as well.

I believe it's what is known as "probing."

608 posted on 08/16/2012 5:27:07 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 607 | View Replies]

To: M Kehoe
Good evening. I hope you are doing well.

Well enough, my FRiend.

Over 600 posts. I didn't think it would get to 100.

And not just here. In other places as well.

609 posted on 08/16/2012 5:35:10 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 603 | View Replies]

To: archy
every time i look at that pic, it chills me...

too bad we will eventually go down that road...

610 posted on 08/16/2012 10:09:57 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 600 | View Replies]

To: Gilbo_3; Travis McGee
every time i look at that pic, it chills me...

too bad we will eventually go down that road...

There may be more to it than you noticed. Note that all four are wearing the ribbon decoration for the Iron Cross, Second Class, making it likely that they were runners for the 27th Jaegers, the German unit assisting the *White Finns* just as Russian Soviet units assisted the Reds.

In 1939 when a million Soviet invaders crossed Finland's borders, it's likely that these four were among the reservist NCOs who helped their fellow citizen-soldiers cut their numbers down to size. Of the Million and a half who invaded, Nikita Kruschev [a junior political commisar during the Finnish invasion] claimed Russia had lost a million soldiers in the attempt, almost certainly an exaggeration, but certainly true in another way.

After Hitler saw how Finland's amateurs had more than decimated Stalins ranks, he thought about what his more professional, better equipped and trained wehrmacht could do, and reconsidered his *non-agression* pact with Stalin. And then he attacked. The result was some 30 million dead Soviet citizens.

And that blue-and-white swallowtail flag of Finland those four young troopers fought under? It still flies over Finland. The red banner of the old Soviet Union never did, and has been torn down in its homeland as well.

Well done, lads....

611 posted on 08/17/2012 11:14:36 AM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 610 | View Replies]

To: archy
There may be more to it than you noticed.

i get stuck on their eyes, in truth...

good additional info Sir...they very well may have been assets at demonstrating what a few 'guys with guns' were able to accomplish against a monstrous and well equipped force...

still saddened that young men such as those had to witness and participate in such things...being a father and all...

612 posted on 08/17/2012 11:45:33 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 611 | View Replies]

To: archy

I don’t care about that idiot, but the criminals will probably grab his kids on the way to private school, and send parts to him by mail. Ugh. La Vida Dulce en Mejico.


613 posted on 08/17/2012 3:28:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 606 | View Replies]

To: archy

Glad I decided to come back to this thread. What an awesome picture.

God bless both these men.

614 posted on 08/17/2012 9:33:20 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 596 | View Replies]

To: NVDave

Well said.


615 posted on 08/17/2012 9:53:52 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: DH
I, too, am familiar with the Garande as well as the AR-10, which I prefer over the M-16, that I hate.
Most "gun collectors" will be first noticed at your front door, and will probably start as a handgun conflict, then escalate to a greater distance.
That is, unless you know someone who will give you a heads up that they're coming.
So a box of ammo a month spent in practice is a good investment.
616 posted on 08/17/2012 10:08:44 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 574 | View Replies]

To: archy
Thank you all for the support.
But again I say, first notice of the "gun confiscators" will be at our front door when the door bell rings, and that's where the first shots will be fired.
Be prepared for that battle.
617 posted on 08/17/2012 10:13:19 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 586 | View Replies]

To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

If you’ve got kids or grandkids here’s a great site:

http://www.mainlesson.com/main/displayarticle.php?article=mission

The stories are well told without the liberal yah, yah. These classics, along with Aesops and the Bible, build great cultures and people.


618 posted on 08/18/2012 3:13:49 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 585 | View Replies]

To: archy

Are the guys in that picture exceptionally short (young) or are their rifles exceptionally long?


619 posted on 08/18/2012 7:46:47 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 600 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD

Thanks.


620 posted on 08/19/2012 1:48:01 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 618 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 561-580581-600601-620621-632 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson