“We are just a bunch of guys with guns. Sorry to say this. “
I think we are a bit more than that. We may not be a regulated militia with infrastructure, but we know what infrastructure is and should be. Such things are actually outlawed in most States but should all Hell break loose then those rules no longer apply and I think you would see our capabilities come to bear very quickly. There are millions of us that are extremely well trained and professionals at what we do. That regulated militia would happen very quickly and i think you’ll be surprised by how well equipped it is.
posted on 08/14/2012 8:45:56 AM PDT
(Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
That regulated militia would happen very quickly and i think youll be surprised by how well equipped it is.
I would hope you are right but this happened very SLOWLY in our revolution. It could have gone either way.
I look at the history of Germany, England, Soviet Union, China. They will come for us individually and threaten us, our wealth, and family. The key word is INDIVIDUALLY.
It is only when we have nothing left to lose that most will fight. And even then, many won’t have a clear understanding of what to fight for. I have wondered what motivated some of our founders, some it would appear considered their lively hood and wealth lost, some were driven by their faith and understanding of God.
Again, I have stood up for what is right and I have stood alone................................. that is human nature, but there are exemptions. But is is important that we understand human nature and history. Most people are sheep. Study the 30’s in Germany. What would you and I have done? There are a lot of individuals and their choices revealed to us in history.
Human nature shows us we will not group up until we have to. We like our independence. Our founders learned AFTER THE BATTLE that a well regulated militia was necessary, but doing this counters human nature.
How does the old story go? When they finally came for me, there was no one left..........
Lets be realists, not pessimists or optimists. It will be a long, hard battle.
posted on 08/14/2012 9:40:18 AM PDT
( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
but should all Hell break loose then those rules no longer apply and I think you would see our capabilities come to bear very quickly.
Aye, but that's the rub.
What if the government doesn't come after our guns in a storm but a sprinkle.
I have no doubt about the armed might of the American gun owners. And so will the other side.
It would be utter stupidity for an hostile force to act like an anti gun Kristallnacht.(I wouldn't count that out though)
No, if they are wise as serpents, they will act slowly, over time. They will use ordinary events to seize guns. They will pull you over on your way to the gun range, on your hunting trip, during an ordinary domestic incident between neighbors. Any excuse to put their police powers snout in the door. They will secretly listen and gather information (most of it readily available) and strike at gun owners and their cache one by one and with regular LE agents.
There will be no mass seizures, no valiant mass battles of the Custer's Last Stand" variety for the national news to report.
Nope, if there is violence it will be covered by the compliant local media as an "incident" between LE and a lone "gun nut"
Just as it happens every day right now and nobody here thinks to go running to the poor gun enthusiast defense.
Most posters here, like gun owners everywhere have families with children and bills to pay. And even if they were rash enough to do so it would be long over by the time they got there
posted on 08/15/2012 12:22:35 PM PDT
(Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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