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Chemical in many antibacterial soaps linked with impaired muscle function
FoxNews.com ^ | Thursday, August 14, 2012 | Loren Grush

Posted on 08/14/2012 11:46:03 AM PDT by carriage_hill

Introduced in the 1970s, the compound triclosan has become an increasingly popular ingredient in many antibacterial soaps and other personal-care items, such as deodorants and mouthwashes. However, as the chemical’s popularity continues to grow, a recent report has raised concerns about some frightening risks that triclosan could pose to public health.

A new study published in the "Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences" has revealed that exposure to triclosan is linked with muscle function impairments in humans and mice, as well as slowing the swimming of fish. By reducing contractions in both cardiac and skeletal muscles, the chemical has the potential to contribute to heart disease and heart failure.

(Added bold emphasis is mine...)

The researchers from the University of California, Davis, and the University of Colorado decided to examine the possible effects of triclosan due to recent literature raising health concerns about the chemical, as well as substantial increases in its production.

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KEYWORDS: antibacterial; chemicals; publichealth; soap; toxic; triclosan
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To: momincombatboots

Agreed.

BTTT


51 posted on 08/14/2012 4:31:09 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: bgill

bump for later


52 posted on 08/14/2012 4:37:09 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Third Person

That’s great stuff....


53 posted on 08/14/2012 4:38:51 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: carriage_hill; Red Badger

Carbolic soap...it still works.


54 posted on 08/14/2012 4:43:46 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Red Badger
You said it,i have been useing good old lye soap for years,love it,it really works well on the laundry to.
55 posted on 08/14/2012 4:59:03 PM PDT by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: carriage_hill

I use Ivory soap... 99.44% pure.


56 posted on 08/14/2012 4:59:13 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Red Badger
You said it,i have been useing good old lye soap for years,love it,it really works well on the laundry to.
57 posted on 08/14/2012 4:59:26 PM PDT by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: Red Badger
You said it,i have been useing good old lye soap for years,love it,it really works well on the laundry to.
58 posted on 08/14/2012 4:59:26 PM PDT by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: Red Badger
You said it,i have been useing good old lye soap for years,love it,it really works well on the laundry to.
59 posted on 08/14/2012 4:59:34 PM PDT by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: Red Badger
You said it,i have been useing good old lye soap for years,love it,it really works well on the laundry to.
60 posted on 08/14/2012 4:59:40 PM PDT by primrose (PRIMROSE)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Smokin' Joe

FYI


61 posted on 08/14/2012 5:02:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: carriage_hill

I grew up in dirt. You need some germs to keep your body alert and always on the lookout. Why do for it what it can very well do for itself.

I see these soaps that say, “Kills 99.99% of germs” and think, “What’s the point?” We gotta be perfectionists in everything? Only a surgeon needs to be that clean.

I use soap so I don’t get dirt on my clean, white shirt. I’m not trying to kill anything. Just take off the dirt.


62 posted on 08/14/2012 5:25:12 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Squantos
I'm taking Dr. Bronner's Peppermint soap with me backpacking this next week.


63 posted on 08/14/2012 5:32:18 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Third Person
This also works very well...


64 posted on 08/14/2012 5:34:01 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed. Why is it only newer products and chemicals that are singled out for so much scrutiny? This reminds me of the nitrate scare in the 70s. I worked with a lady who stopped bringing baloney sandwiches for lunch because she was spooked by the latest chemical bad guy. I told her that the 2 packs of cigs she smoked every day were going to get her long before the nitrates would.

Most of what passes for science these days is bogus. Any clown who can get a grant (and they are usually provided by government that loves a chance to scare people and issue more regulations) can put together a slip-shod study.


65 posted on 08/14/2012 5:49:32 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: carriage_hill

If all these chemicals are so toxic, why are we living longer than ever? It’s nonsense.


66 posted on 08/14/2012 5:50:35 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Born to Conserve

Phisohex mentioned on Seinfeld in the David Putty germophobe episode.


67 posted on 08/14/2012 5:57:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: carriage_hill

Where is mah monah? Sue, sue, sue, oh lawdy I been hurt by them kyamkuls! Seriously, what do you expect from poisons found in everyday items, including “food”?


68 posted on 08/14/2012 5:58:59 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Born to Conserve

PhisoHex was awesome.
I used to have a real acne problem and that cleared it up 98%
I was p*ssed when the friggin’ govt took it off the market.


69 posted on 08/14/2012 6:04:14 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Sawdring

It’s good soap. I used it almost my whole career in the military and still do. Easy to pack, multi-purpose body soap. Small nalgene bottle will last for a year. Only takes a few drops. I still use it. Almond and or peppermint is what we buy.

Enjoy the trip !


70 posted on 08/14/2012 6:22:48 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: primrose

***Breaking***

There is a new study just published in PNAS linking the exposure of “good old lye soap” with muscle function impairments which in turn increase muscle contractions and has the potential to contribute to MPD (multiple posting dysfunction).


71 posted on 08/14/2012 6:38:56 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Sawdring; Squantos

The BEST stuff ever!!! I like the peppermint the most and been using it (backpacking, camping, and daily use) for at least 22 or 23 years. They’d better never find something toxic in there :0)


72 posted on 08/14/2012 7:04:41 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: carriage_hill

I forget..is dry milk good or bad for you?

Otherwise, can someone tell me why there are 80 and 90 year olds all over the place. They didn’t eat organic. They lived in houses with lead paint and lead pipes. They drink drank fresh cow milk. They breathed secondhand smoke. They cooked with lard. They drove around in death traps. Ate transfats...Many of them didn’t attend college. Some didn’t even graduate from Highschool...ect ect...???


73 posted on 08/14/2012 7:07:57 PM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil--A-merican)
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To: Borax Queen

Oh we’d be dead already the way we use it past and present.....:o)

Hope yer well... Stay safe


74 posted on 08/14/2012 7:22:08 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: carriage_hill

Are the triclosan producers owned by the viagra producers??? Inquiring minds want to know!!


75 posted on 08/14/2012 7:24:00 PM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: Third Person

Used that stuff for sports eqpt. from the school. Available at Walmart, too.


76 posted on 08/14/2012 7:31:11 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: bgill

Thanks for the link.

Nothing I use is on that list. I like Safeguard, which contains triclocarban, but that’s not indicated as dangerous.


77 posted on 08/14/2012 7:34:36 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: scan59

ping to you


78 posted on 08/14/2012 7:35:06 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: HiTech RedNeck

TMI!


79 posted on 08/14/2012 7:53:59 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Red Badger

I’ve had a heck of a time finding lye soap. I found some Octagon soap over a month ago at Big Lots, but it sold out quickly. Wal-mart carries Naptha soap in the laundry aisle.


80 posted on 08/14/2012 8:01:01 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: Red Badger

I grew up using lye soap that my mother made but now I’m making my own laundry soap and skin sanitizer.
Skin sanitizer is Everclear and water and lemon. Laundry soap is a bar of castille soap shaved in your blender along with a cup of washing soda and a cup of 20 Mule Team Borax all mixed together. Fabric softener? 1/2 c vinegar in the rinse.


81 posted on 08/14/2012 8:29:50 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping.... (Thanks, Gene Eric!)


82 posted on 08/15/2012 1:48:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: RC2

Same here, I read about this chemical years ago and stopped buying products with it.


83 posted on 08/15/2012 5:22:55 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: neverdem
No ***Red Flags*** yet, but if you have known cardiac problems, it might be good to follow this developing situation.

ping

84 posted on 08/15/2012 5:32:02 AM PDT by GOPJ (Freeper Neveronmywatch's convinced: Put a compass in the hands of a liberal it'll point south.)
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To: carriage_hill

I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Some years ago, it was noted that many bacteria were becoming resistant to Triclosan, and it was strongly recommended that manufacturers develop other antibacterial agents to replace it.

“Triclosan and antimicrobial resistance in bacteria: an overview.”

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16922622

However, few manufacturers did, because Triclosan is inexpensive and certified as “safe and antibacterial”. For them to develop others is prohibitively expensive.

Importantly, for most people, the primary use of Triclosan is in hand soap. For this reason, someone developed some simple principles of contamination and a scale of contamination and how best to clean one’s hands.

1) Most foreign contamination on the body is on the hands. So the emphasis for decontamination should be on them.

2) Most pathogenic microorganisms are found in physical contamination, like dirt and oil on the skin, as well as natural skin oils. So if you wash this off, you get rid of the majority of pathogens.

3) If you see such contamination on your hands, you need to wash your hands with ordinary soap and water. Water alone will clean perhaps 40% of the way, with ordinary soap, at least 80%. Antibacterial soap will do maybe 10% better than ordinary soap, but not 100%, mostly because there are lots of nooks and crannies for bacterial to hide in, like under the nails, and lots of skin oil doesn’t easily wash off.

4) There are some other cleaners that will disinfect up to 98%, like citrus based cleaners, but they strip all the skin oil off your hands and leave the skin uncomfortably dry.

5) If there is no visible contamination, hand sanitizer that is at least 60% alcohol works great. Statistically it has been proven that if you are out in public during cold and flu season, and you use hand sanitizer six times a day, you will reduce your chance of colds and flu by about 60%.

(Colds and flu transmit optimally by coughing and sneezing at 40F and low humidity. Higher temperature and humidity make it much more reliant on hand contamination to spread.)

6) On the skin from about knees to navel is called the “coliform zone”, where the density of ‘bad’ bacteria is much higher. This is the reason you are supposed to wash your hands after going to the bathroom.

So the bottom line is simple. When your hands are visibly dirty, or after you have gone to the bathroom, wash them with ordinary soap and water. When you are around people with colds and flu, use hand sanitizer to keep from getting sick.

No reason to fuss with antibacterial soap at all. Bye-bye Triclosan.

As a historical note, a very popular hand sanitizer of the past was called “pHisoHex”, and was widely used in hospitals. Its active ingredient was hexachlorophene(*).

In 1969, hexachlorophene became suspected of causing cancer, and studies determined that oral ingestion of hexachlorophene led to weakness and paralysis in laboratory rats. In 1972 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration outlawed its use in non-medicinal products like Dial soap.

A 1978 study undertaken by the U.S. National Institutes of Health indicated that hexachlorophene does not cause cancer.

Several substitute products (including Triclosan) were developed, but none had the germ-killing capability of hexachlorophene.

(*) Alternative names for hexachlorophene include: Acigena, Almederm, AT7, AT17, Bilevon, Exofene, Fostril, Gamophen, G-11, Germa-Medica, Hexosan, Septisol, Surofene.


85 posted on 08/15/2012 7:03:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: HollyB

Many, many products used on horses and dogs use Triclosan also. People need to be careful. I wonder what effect it has on animals.


86 posted on 08/15/2012 7:45:47 AM PDT by RC2 (Support the Wounded Warrior Project......please.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


87 posted on 08/15/2012 9:59:48 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: carriage_hill

“Crap, I’ve been using Old Spice® for 40yrs! I’m a goner. I’ll have to go back to my old standbys, Brut® or Aramis®...”

just don’t go back to “CANOE”.....please!


88 posted on 08/15/2012 11:08:33 PM PDT by bitt (These Commies are making it impossible to stick to my self-imposed moratorium on foul language)
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To: bitt

Ha; I remember that one, too. My bottle lasted > a week. Stuff was so bad I poured it out.


89 posted on 08/16/2012 4:28:54 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: RC2

Thx for the heads up ill check those items as well today.


90 posted on 08/17/2012 6:37:50 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Squantos

LOL, true.

Thank you -— to you as well (sorry for the delayed response)!


91 posted on 08/17/2012 11:20:26 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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