Skip to comments.DeKalb woman killed in home by pet dog
Posted on 08/17/2012 4:09:51 AM PDT by from occupied ga
The DeKalb County medical examiner says a woman found dead in her home was killed by at least one of her five dogs.
Twenty-three-year-old Rebecca Carey spent her life rescuing animals, taking several into her home to keep them from ending up at animal control.
Carey’s best friend, Jackie Cira, went to Carey’s home when she did not show up for work on Sunday.
“There was a lot of blood,” Cira said. “And when first got there, it looked like she had fallen and hit her head.”
The DeKalb County medical examiner ruled Carey’s death was the result of dog bites.
Animal control took custody of the five dogs in the home – two pit bulls, two presas and a boxer mix.
Any dog that has bitten a person goes into a special isolation lockup at animal control.
Cira said she knows Carey’s dogs, and actually owned one of them, a therapy dog, at one time.
“Any dog she came into contact with, she brought out the best in,” Cira said.
Cira said she wanted the dogs she knew to be gentle to be spared punishment.
“I don’t know who did what, but I can say with certainty who did not,” Cira said.
Animal control’s interim director Tim Medlin told Channel 2’s Jeff Dore that the county can’t risk putting a killer dog with a family, and they have all been put down.
“We didn’t know which dog did which. I can’t be wrong. Not just myself, no one can be wrong in putting out a dog that possibly had to do with these type of injuries. I will not put another person at that kind of risk,” Medlin said.
Carey’s family declined to speak with Dore, but they issued the following statement:
"Rebecca Carey of Decatur was 23 years old and an avid animal lover. Since the second grade when she read the book Throw Away Pets she vowed to be a voice for all animals. She attended Georgia Perimeter College and worked at a veterinary clinic. Upon placing her first abandoned animal in a permanent loving home in 2003, she volunteered countless hours with rescue networks and animal shelters. There she did what she loved the most: rescuing animals from untenable situations to find them safe, loving homes."
That was my first thought - she tried to break up two of the dogs that were fighting each other. They probably didn’t even mean to bite her, and were trying to get to each other. It’s NOT a place you want to be in no matter what kind of dogs they are.
I have heard that there is a saying in India...
“A man who raises a Tiger cub, has a habit of disappearing.”
The big cats have #10-grit sandpaper for tongues.
I worry about the trend now to rescue every dog. Some are not suitable pets (not because of their breed but because of temperament, period). But it goes along with the ‘animals are the same as people’ idea the permeates our culture. My dog, btw, agrees with me.
Presas were bred to hunt people.
My dog, a Welsh Corgi, was attacked by a pit-bull a couple of months ago. I was taking him for a walk, and a pit-bull silently ran toward us from the right (I didn't see it) and it had my dog by the back of the neck and was vigorously shaking it. This was not a dog fight. This was an out of control killer attacking a smaller dog with no provocation whatsoever. It may have weighed no more than 70 lbs., but it was solid muscle. My kicks had no effect on it.
Fortunately, I was armed. I did not want to discharge my weapon in a residential neighborhood, but I was not going to let my dog die before my eyes about 6 houses from our house. So, I shot the pit-bull. Twice. It took two .38 rounds to get it to drop my dog. The pit-bull recovered from the shots (I hit it in the hip and shoulder; muscle only, and the shots were pass-throughs).
Your arrogant comments are worthless. Call us cowards if you like; but now, when I walk my dog, I try to keep my head on a 180 degree swivel in case another beast is silently stalking us during a neighborhood walk.
The presas are the same type that killed that woman in San Francisco. The pits are aggressive only if they have been raised that way.
There were 'sad' cobras in India too... I'm surprised she didn't take some of them in too... That said, prayers for her family and loved ones...
Yeah, let's kill every dog that an owner tires of, that's the ticket! Lots of people want puppies, but tire of a grown dog. We have, save once, rescued adult dogs and have never had a problem.
Our first rescue was a Golden/Brittany mix that was given up because her owners wanted a smaller dog.
Our second was given up because her owner got a boyfriend who didn't like dogs and beat on the dog. We bet he started beating on her when the dog was gone.
Number 3 was given up because his owner went in a nursing home and the kids didn't want the dog. They just kicked him outside in the winter of 2009, luckily a neighbor took him in until the rescue organization could get him.
Number 4 was found outside a rural VFW, young, pregnant, no collar or tags. Someone let her stay under his trailer until the pups were whelped and then called animal control. Her pups were adopted and she was rescued from death row.
Each one of these dogs were, or are, wonderful, well-behaved pets. They are respectful of humans and know their place. Our vet is so impressed that they each carefully take treats out of her hand, making sure no fingers are involved. We didn't train them, they came that way. You are entitled to your opinion, but many, many dogs are released to shelters and rescue groups, not because the dog has a problem, but the owner does.
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I forgot about that incident - thanks for reminding me.
The pits are aggressive only if they have been raised that way.
I don't agree with this. PBs head the list of breeds responsible for fatal attacks. They can't ALL be raised to be agressive. Question to PB lovers out there: if you can breed a dog for size, color, coat, appearance, etc. why do you think that they CAN'T be bred for agressive behavior?
Interesting information about the lion/tiger crossbreeds. Feline species certainly aren’t nicer than canine ones, as a generalization, but almost nobody keeps a cat big enough to hurt him.
Did you know that the average Cougar consumes 20-30 pounds of meat per day? They can also jump straight up 18 feet. How could anybody think that they were safe with one of those watching them sleep?
That’s a good observation. I don’t like to call an animal “vicious,” because they have no moral cognition, but some are simply very dangerous. It’s unfortunate that people don’t use better sense, and avoid acquiring or breeding so many dogs that end up as problems.
We have a retired greyhound. She sleeps a lot, on her back with her feet all up in the air. I suppose it could be dangerous, if someone tripped over her and was knocked unconscious and the catz were hungry ...
No, I did not remember that, although I wrote a report on them in junior high, iirc. Nice kitty ...
I’ve had cats for 57 of my 62yrs; none big enough to kill and eat me.
My golden is dangerous like that too. I probably should be responsible and put a sign and cones around her. :)
Personality traits can certainly be bred for. It’s more difficult than breeding for physical appearance, you usually get tendencies that then have to be guided into the behaviors you want (depending on the behavior/trait you are breeding for).
I suspect (and what I have read backs this up, plus looking through shelter dogs available also backs it up) that there are several reasons there are so many PB types involved in the attacks you read about.
First, they CAN do a lot of damage if they attack so they are more likely to make the news.
Second the media (which most who post on these threads usually don’t have much respect for) love a good scary mean dog bites man story and this is the scary breed of the day. I remember when it was rotties and before that german shepherds.
Third they are easy to misidentify, lots of people cannot tell the difference in a pit bull and a boxer or any large short muzzled mix breed (and neither can lots of shelter employees for that matter).
Fourth BAD PEOPLE took a liking to the breed and have bred and owned them for completely reprehensible reasons. I think you and I agree there 100%.
Fifth the shelters are FULL of them so I think it’s very likely that many rescued dogs are pit bull type and pit bull mixes so I think it greatly increases the chances that they will be involved in bites just by virtue of numbers -they are popular.
And no, I don’t have a pit bull. I have a golden retriever.
Same here. My parents had a 22-pounder for several years, but she eventually died from obesity-related causes. She was fat when they got her from the adoption agency.
Most pit bulls that are agressive, are not necessarily “bad dogs.” I have seen incidences of German sheperds, rotweilers, Dobermans, and other medium to large breeds of dog who have bitten, maimed and/or killed people.
PBs that are bred to fight, are only aggressive to other dogs because they associate humans with food and affection.
Some dogs are loyal and protective to a fault...these are the ones that attack and often kill. There ARE warning signs, however, and owners who ignore the signs are the very ones who claim the “dog was a real sweetie, until he suddenly went berserk.”
Behavior can be bred in or bred out, depending on the breeder and the type of dog in question. Each dog, just like people, should be judged on its own merit and not that of a few stories that make the news.
I never said they couldn’t be bred for aggressive behavior. ANY dog can be aggressive, especially one who has been abused. And if a person likes that kind of dog, they can be sure that they will make the dog that way.
Dogs, like people, are born innocent.
I am so glad that you were able to save your dog.
The idiots across the street to me just got a pit bull and I am scared out of my mind. They let it out in the front yard and then the family goes back into the house. No chain, no leash, no fence. I can’t go to my car or walk my dog when that land shark is out there.
I am fortunate that I live in a small city just outside Houston. We have our own Police force, and they frequently patrol the streets. A loose pit-bull would not be allowed here. The one that attacked my dog had escaped from its backyard fence while the owner was at work. As my dog and I were crossing the street and stepping up on a curb, it was heading for us at the full gallop. I later found that it had cornered a woman in her garage of the house I was about to cross in front of. I had no sooner shot the dog and holstered my weapon when a policewoman drove up. She had seen the whole thing because she was responding to the call about a loose dog from the people in the house where the woman was trapped.
This attack shows how violent these dogs can be. There was no confrontation between my dog and the pit-bull. I just remember stepping up on the curb, and the pit was suddenly there. It was like it had instantly materialized. It would be like if someone had silently stalked me from behind and then attacked without warning. BTW, the cuddly-wuddly pit-bull was named Precious.
I know I would be prepared to shoot the one your neighbor has if it attacked.
Rescue dogs are wonderful if they’re the right breed.
I have two and they’re fine. One is an Eskimo Spitz mix and the other a Bichon Frise I got from a puppy mill rescue. He was an older dog; one of the breeder dogs. Harmless....just barks a lot.
This breed is banned almost every where outside this country. Horrible breed for people who just want a pet. They’re killers....of full grown people. Pitbulls have mauled people and definitely killed kids but these dogs can easily kill a full grown man in a couple of minutes.
that is a pic of a Presa Canario not a Pitbull. I will say I have been around friendly PB, but Presa Canario is another level of wicked. Beyond anything a PB can do.
We're just never going to agree on this. Some animals are far more likely to attack than others, and there's ample evidence that PBs fall into this category.
The two most dangerous animals on the North American continent are the the grizzly bear and the bison. Their aggressive nature is genetic. Either one raised by people is just as dangerous as one in the wild.
Likewise the large number of PB attacks tell me that this breed is more aggressive than most others. Of the 88 dog bite fatalities in the last three years 59% were committed by pit bulls. To support the hypothesis that it is how they were raised, not only do you have to assume that a far larger fraction of PB owners train their dogs to be vicious, but you also have to assume that virtually none of the other MILLIONS of dog owners EVER train their dogs to be vicious. Occam's razor leaves us with the conclusion that AS A BREED, pbs are much more dangerous than other breeds
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Personally even if I wanted a pet, I'd avoid all of these breeds
It seems to me that a little personal initiative and extra effort could have saved a few dogs' lives.
I'm no big sap or anything, but this guy who endorsed arbitrary euthanizing without even an attempt to ascertain the facts just seems lazy to me.
P.S. As I was posting this, I just saw a devastating anti-0bama TV ad down here in Florida. It portrayed 0bama for being detached from reality on the economy and having to resort to hateful scare tactics as the Democrats (the party of Perjury and Obstruction of Justice, parenthetically) and their President are currently doing.
The ad was by some kind of PAC I guess, not the Romney campaign. It started by saying that unemployment was up was again and then it showed 0bama's "shovel ready" quip, along with the "private sector is doing fine" clip, as well as the "our plan worked" clip, and so on.
It's a DEVASTATING ad against 0bama. I just don't see how the American people could possibly be so stupid or guilt-ridden as to re-elect this BAD President.
0bama should really have no chance at all this November. We just have to pray that enough of the American people awaken to the obvious reality that 0bama is Jimmy Carter x 10 on Marxist steroids...
I've heard that German Shepherds are up there on the list, too, and I can personally recall a couple of incidents down here in Florida where German Shepherd police dogs have attacked the wrong person (in other words not the suspect being targeted.)
It's a quick-hitting and effective ad and it should be widely disseminated...
Not many people own Presas but out of the 18 people killed so far this year buy dogs, ll were killed by PB or PB mix.
Both are born ignorant, but neither are born innocent, as everything is born inherently self-centered - otherwise in their helpless state they might not get the attention they need to get milk and other neccesities. Left to their own devices without discipline and instruction they would only grow more selfish and even dangerous, not less so, with age. Once physically able to act on their aggression both human and dog would do so, until stopped by a firm loving hand or by another more powerful aggressor. You know how to bite instinctively but you learn not to bite by getting bitten in response. Born innocent? Absolutely not. The belief that creatures are 'born innnocent' is what leads to problems in the first place, because it leads people to think discipline is uneccessary so long as things superficially seem to be OK- if little Johnny is kept apart from bad people he won't learn to be bad, and all that BS. Problem is, people and dogs are born to bite.
Dogs are by nature predators. They kill whatever they can catch and are allowed to kill. The sweet disposition of the poorly trained neighbor's golden retriever or lab is not so sweet to people who own rabbits or chickens or other small animals, because dogs are designed to kill animals and eat meat. People often assume their dog is sweet and innocent and forgo training because they don't see their dog's behavior when they aren't present and forget their dog is a natural predator, or worse- a bored untrained natural predator looking for stimulation or fun. An untrained dog is a dog that if he is trusted at all, is trusted blindly because he has been protected from temptation and has thus never been tested.
That their dog is sweet to them is well and good, until their dog slips out one day like a feral teenager and rampages through the neighborhood, or worse finds companions which lead to exponential trouble for the undisciplined. Coming home to find a neighbor's otherwise "sweet" dog who "would never hurt a fly" has killed not one, not two, but every single bird you owned just because it could, and is happily rolling in feathers in the henyard it tunneled into, is not a pleasant sight and not even all that uncommon, esp. for young energetic dogs that haven't been taught that nothing (however tasty it might look) is a target unless the human says it is.
Raccoons cause a lot of slaughter but sweet friendly dogs cause far more, quickly killing EVERYTHING in the pen because they aren't really there trying to get food, they just like to kill because it is fun. And sure enough, while you survey the damage and the blood, your neighbor insists the dog is innocent, because they have never witnessed what untrained dogs naturally do when they are not in sight of their owner. "He was such a fine, quiet boy who loved his mother, etc."
If she owned 5 rattlesnakes would you ask the same question? They're dogs, that is to say animals, and like the man said don't take the chance. I agree. To me one human life, even a moron like this woman is worth more than the lives of any number of easily replaced animals. (Now if she had an 0bama sticker on her car I might choose to save a cockroach over her, but that's a different topic)
Wow. I’m so stupid I would never have thought of that. Thanks for posting to an obvious idiot. And you did it in the middle of the night! Just for me.
I work in rescue and that is total BS.
Are kids who end up in foster care ‘bad’ kids?
Most often kids and dogs who end up in the system have one thing in common — families who abandoned them.
You are so right. There are so many good dogs (including pits) who need rescue. Many are there through no fault of their own. And yet many rescuers refuse to acknowledge that some dogs are dangerous and should be put down.
“if you can breed a dog for size, color, coat, appearance, etc. why do you think that they CAN’T be bred for agressive behavior? “
You can. If you can breed a dog for “color, coat, appearance” why can’t you breed a dog for dog aggression and handling by people?
That is what pits were traditionally bred for. The dogs were fought and had to be handled by their owners even when injured. So yes, traditionally bred pits are dog aggressive but people friendly. Many dogs are dog aggressive and people friendly. It is up to their owners to control them.
Even Michael Vick’s dogs were like this which is why many could be rescued.
OTOH some gangstas are now breeding pits as attack dogs. An attack dog is just that - indiscriminately aggressive.
No. Apples and oranges. I would think it might be a little easier to do dental analysis on several dogs of differing breeds and sizes, as opposed to 5 nearly identical rattlesnakes...
Was not aware that humans and animals were identical in behavior and training methods. LOL.
Work with working type dogs much? Any? Every time I see a Rotty, Dobe, or GSD at a shelter, they are either said to be shy/not trusting (great potential for being a fear biter) or it says that they should only go to ‘experienced’ owners, or no kids, no other dogs. I can read between the lines of that, and no, I would say that most aren’t ‘bad dogs’ didn’t say that and sorry if you took it that way. A large number have been mistreated, and that is why they are that way. My last dog (before my current mali) was a WG/Czech import bred bitch that had been sold and brought back to the breeder. She was scared of her own shadow, but protective, great potential fear biter. It took about two years to get her confidence back, and she made a great dog. BUT, if she went to an average guy, not someone who has OB/bitework experience and knows how a dog works, it could have been a disaster just as quick. That is why a recommendation to get a working breed dog from a shelter for the average joe is IMO only, generally not a good plan.
Point is both are dangerous animals. There is no shortage of dogs to make it worth taking a chance on these.
Do you have a leash law where you live? If so, take photos and call Animal Control every time they turn that dog loose.
If you don’t have a leash law now would be a good time to work to get one passed.
My son has a wolf/Shepard hybrid.
His home owner's insurance company doesn't know that he has it and I've told him that if they ever find out out they will cancel his policy and he won't be able to get another one.
I can hardly wait for the day that animal dies but now my son tells me he wants to get another one when that happens!
He is a very good son but when it comes to wolf hybrids he has an absolute blind spot and refuses to listen to reason!
Yes, we have all the laws that would get this dog put away. I have a ton of pictures and security cameras. I have gone to the city and they say that they are aware of the problem, but they have to see the dog outside themselves. Good luck with that. Plus I have to be care since they are Holder's People and I could become a victim.
Bingo. They killed that woman out in California. But we will never know for sure.
One thing is certain, I love dogs - as well as cats. But I would never have a pit bull or a Presa Canario or Fila Brasiliero or anything like them.
Well as much as I hate to suggest this (and I know I’m going to get flamed!) you might want to cook up a super sized meatloaf burger mixed with rat poison for the beast and try to get it to him without anyone finding out.
Curious how they did the math (but it wouldn’t mean anything to me, I am terribly math challenged). But it’s an interesting list. One thing about Pit Bulls is I don’t know how they quantify what is a pit bull. Do they include Am Staffs, American Pit Bull, Bull Terrier and all of the other bully breeds? Also, wolf hybrids (which I am opposed to, and I know I will take some flack for saying that) but not sure how they decide if the animal is honestly a hybrid or simply wolfy looking but maybe they can tell with DNA now so they may be sure before they label it.
And husky, does that include Siberians, Malmutes and other norther breeds?
I don’t know anything about Presas other than the little I’ve read and they don’t appeal to me. Of those breeds I wouldn’t have a problem owning one of the bully breeds if I knew where it came from and ditto a Rottie.
It really frustrates me when a dog that cannot make a suitable pet (at least for most homes and thus will take forever to place) takes up time, energy and money while perfectly delightful and placeable dogs are euthanized. And really, that is what happens. No room at the inn? The dog dies because there is no place to take it in.
I’ve known several people bitten by rescues and they always say, “Oh, it was my fault.” And when I hear what they did, I always think, “No, you did a pretty normal thing, the dog was going to bite *someone*.”
I did the math. I just divided the attacks by the fraction of the population to get a risk factor for individuals of the breed. Rottweilers came out the winner, but PBs are seriously dangerous too. Stick with collies and retrievers if you don't want to get bitten.
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