Posted on 08/17/2012 4:46:03 AM PDT by bjorn14
Ecuador has granted asylum to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange two months after he took refuge in its London embassy while fighting extradition from the UK.
It said his human rights might be violated if he is sent to Sweden to be questioned over sex assault claims.
Foreign Secretary William Hague said the UK would not allow Mr Assange safe passage out of the country and the move was also criticised by Stockholm.
Ecuador said it would seek to negotiate arrangements for Mr Assange to leave.
"We don't think it is reasonable that, after a sovereign government has made the decision of granting political asylum, a citizen is forced to live in an embassy for a long period," Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino said.
Mr Assange took refuge at the embassy in June to avoid extradition to Sweden, where he faces questioning over assault and rape claims, which he denies.
Mr Patino had accused the UK of making an "open threat" to enter its embassy to arrest Mr Assange, an Australian national.
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I’m amazed that this lowlife POS creep hasn’t been “Polonium-210’ed”, so far.
So, Ecuador didn’t have enough bisexual rapists so they have to import them?
Oh, don’t worry.
The people in Intel that this jagoff burned have very long memories. It may take decades, but they’ll get him.
Like the Sicilians say, revenge is a dish best served cold.
I say the Brits should just go in and get him.
What’s Ecuador gonna do about it anyway? How many divisions do they have? Howzabout the “Mighty Ecuadorean Navy”?, (LOL!)
The last South American banana republic to take on the Limeys got their keysters handed to them on a platter and most of their navy sent to the bottom.
And don’t give me this international law crap r diplomatic immunity BS. Those are quaint holdovers from a more genteel time that should now be jettisoned for expediency.
Also,heard a short interview of Julia's mother on the BBC News last night.What a piece of filth she is!! She's basically convinced that if her little girl isn't allowed to go to Ecuador the CIA will shoot her in the back of the head.In broad daylight!
Clearly a case of "like mother,like daughter".
GB has been considering breaking off diplomatic relations with Ecuador, at which point the “embassy” (which is just a small apartment on the third floor of a building) no longer exists and they can go get him. However, the problem is that this would require an act of Parliament.
I saw video coverage in the foreign press this morning of the police clearing out the usual masked supporters of Assange who had gathered outside the building to riot.
Exactly the case...
The Swedes would make him available to the Russians and he would meet his end shortly afterward.
I wonder if Assange didn't find something on Presidente Correa in all the gigabytes of diplomatic cables from the US State Department that SPC Manning leaked to him.
In The Guardian,a Communist British newspaper,they're speculating about the various ways that Ecuador could sneak little Julia out of Britain.Given that Ecuador's president is a very,*very* close friend and ally of Chavez he just might try to do that.
Yeah, thought about that, too.
Maybe a “medical emergency” where Assange “has to be transferred to Ecuador” or some such.
The banana republics still survive in some places, it appears.
True, but there is something more to the story than what we are being told by either side of the political spectrum.
And he still has something scandalous about international banking that could bring down the entire Eurosocialist left...
Anytime the leftists in the press and the communists infiltrating the State Department make a big deal out of something, you know something is up.
(Just look at the way they protested too much about Putin winning his election. They tried to steal the Russian election for their comrades and failed, so, true to communist form, they accuse their opponents of doing exactly what they are doing... then there was the gay jihad against the Orthodox church and the patron saint of perversity Madonna, preaching the homofascist religion in Russia.)
I suspect a more gradual and diplomatic solution would be better. Rafael Correa is a far leftist nutball. Ecuador could seize the British Embassy and staff in Quito in response. Some of the South American countries would back Ecuador in the confrontation. Once a country starts down this road, there will probably a lot of unintended consequences. A weakening Britain has many enemies who could use this as a pretext for hostile actions,
All that chest thumping aside, your images of the UK victory over Argentina from the early 1980’s will be little comfort to the innocent UK citizens, tourists, etc., who may well be targeted on the streets of any number of South American cities.
That was then, this is now.
Were you calling Julian Assange “Julia” and referring to him as a female figuratively, or do you mistakenly think that that scumbag is a woman named Julia?
If the UK is crazy enough to invade another nation’s embassy, quite frankly it makes them no better than the thugs and goons who took over and occupied our embassy in Tehran in 1979.Indeed. Not even the communists raided embassies to arrest refugees, back in the days of the Eastern Bloc. While Assange may be an arrogant, detestable commie bastard with delusions of grandeur, let’s not forget that what he is being accused of is not a crime anywhere in the world except Sweden.
Nope,I did it intentionally.Schwartenager would call him a "girly man" and so do I.He belongs in a skirt.And heels.The only thing that surprises me is that it's adult females making the accusations against him rather than the parents of several three year old boys.
Little punk coward.
What a silly position.First,I refer you to post #7.Any thoughts there? Yes,entering the embassy would be problematic but remember...1)today's Britain (and Sweden) doesn't remotely resemble 1979's (or today's) Iran...2)today's Ecuador doesn't remotely resemble the US,Britain *or* Sweden.Perhaps you could do some research on Ecuador's President and find out who his friends are.Get back to us when you're done,OK?
“And he still has something scandalous about international banking that could bring down the entire Eurosocialist left...”
BINGO!!! I agree he has more information. I believe these “rape” charges are trumped up charges to go after him. We do not know if these charges are true or not simply because the media tells us. Everyone here on Freepers should know better how low these commies will go to destroy their enemy.
“Anytime the leftists in the press and the communists infiltrating the State Department make a big deal out of something, you know something is up.”
Another BINGO!!! Unfortunately many here don’t see that. Many of us now recognize when Commies start screaming and creating a ruckus it is for a reason. Do they fear Assange will reveal more of their dirty secrets? Let the games being =)
Kudos to Ecuador for protecting him. I wonder why Ecuador. Do they feel they can get info out of him to use against their enemy or to help one of their neighbors?
If he has info on the International Bankers it would be nice if he has info on our Federal Reserve.
I refer you to post #20 by FReeper Cartan, who clearly understands this situation better than you do.
Get back to us when you begin to comprehend the actual issues.
Nah,this is all about Correa's utter contempt for the US,democracy and western civilization.You know,the same type (and level) of contempt that Osama Obama and his mentors had/have toward this country.Having seen some pretty awful things in South America (but not in Ecuador itself) it's not difficult to imagine what a Fourth World cesspool Ecuador (and its government) is.
To compare today's Britain (or Sweden) to the Soviet bloc,or this situation to Soviet dissidents,is delusional.I have no use for delusional thought.
In the old days, they’d farm this out top the mob and Julian would end up planted in the desert somewhere outside of Vegas.......
Arrest Assange?
No, termination with extreme prejudice. Much more cost-effective and sends the clearest possible message. I guarantee that if you do that it’ll be a long time before another arrogant Europansy tries anything remotely like publishing secrets.
I agree with Marshall Matt Dillon, “Some folks deserve killin’.”
OK,cool.You let me know when your wife,daughter and mother take that Swedish vacation they were planning.I'll then go over there,violate all of them in some way,flee to Britain and when Sweden requests extradition I'll make a beeline to the Ecuadorian Embassy claiming that the CIA is out to murder me.No guns,no dead policewomen...just three traumatized women and a criminal living in the lap of luxury thanks to a Commie tinpot dictator who has *almost* as much contempt for the US as does Osama Obama.
You,no doubt,will be cheering Ecuador and cursing Britain *and* Sweden.
No, but how many of our people in the field died because of what he and that faggot Manning did?
Again, these banana republics need to stay out of the business of the first world. TR may have been a “progressive”, but he knew how to deal with uppity Latin countries who wouldn’t do as they’re told.
What’s the use of being the biggest badass on the block if you can’t act like it sometimes?
See my #34 above.
I could care less about the diplomats.
Diplomacy has never resolved any crisis, at any time in the last few centuries, and/or anywhere in the world. All diplomacy has done is prolong crises.
History is replete with examples of the failure of diplomacy, going back way before Neville getting off that plane waving his piece of paper.
The longer I live, the more I agree with Nietzsche’s oft-expressed belief that might makes right.
Maybe Ecuador needs more fertilizer.. I hear Assange is full of it.
I suspect that they don’t care a bit about Assange. It’s just that after Britain threatened to storm the embassy unless they handed him over, they couldn’t back down or else they would have lost face. Someone over at the Foreign Office really screwed up.
Most of the people here on this thread don’t see the bigger picture.
Probably. But if I were the Brits, I would loudly deny "rumors" that Correa worked for the CIA as young man, and that Assange is blackmailing him into offering asylum.
Just to watch Correa have to deny it himself.
Russia’s NGO conundrum
July 10, 2012
Ajay Kamalakaran
Not all NGOs receiving funds from overseas are indulging in malpractices but the Russian Government has every right to ask questions.
Foreign governments that want to use the NGO route as a means for a coup d’état or to meet other political ends will have to find another way to advance their agenda. Source: Julian Hibbard
There seems to be a particular feeling of discomfort in the West over Russia’s new bill that calls for certain categories of NGOs receiving foreign funding to register with the Justice Ministry. The main aim of this bill is to monitor NGOs that are involved in politics. It’s no secret that some governments in the West aren’t particularly fond of Vladimir Putin. Some might argue that there are powerful people in Brussels, London and Washington who would salivate at the prospect of instability in Russia a la Yeltsin years. After all, those were the days when multinationals set up a strong base in Russia and about $250 billion went out of the country in one of the largest capital flights in history.
NGOs must register as foreign agents
After living long enough in Russia, there is one thing I learned about the torch-bearers of fairness and democracy that come preaching to the Russians: When in Rome, they sure do behave as the Romans. Life as a journalist in an area that was just opening itself to foreigners (as Sakhalin was around 2003) was an eye-opener. The guardians of Western values and civilisation indulged in the most corrupt practices, bribing officials in a way that would even shock some Russian businessmen. Others opposing the multinationals paid off local NGOs to sustain campaigns against the big bad oil companies. Then there were those from the civilized world who used the effective tool of local thugs to meet certain objectives.
Of course, it isn’t just NGOs from the West that to tend to engage in activities that are “inconsistent with their primary purpose.” After the 1998 financial crisis, when most Western companies packed up and left Sakhalin, a few NGOs moved in from South Korea. Their aim was to help the economically disadvantaged ethnic Koreans on the island. The Sakhalin Koreans, a small but visible minority in the region, were as poor (and atheist) as the rest of the island’s population in the late-1990s. Then came the South Korean NGOs, basically a front for the various churches in the Asian economic powerhouse.
To keep the story short, the funds from South Korean NGOs, many of which came with missionary zeal and a conversion condition, turned the Sakhalin Koreans into the dominant business community on the island and an ardent group of believers! There is still a fear that the ‘expansion’ may spread to the Slavic descendants of Orthodox Christians, who are not sure of their religious leanings, even two decades after the fall of communism. Under such a scenario, these new believers, like the Sakhalin Koreans, become a political force. The most paranoid of commentators even suggest that these believers, powered by foreign NGOs may create some trouble across the Russian Far East.
NGOs tend to be an easy front for foreign governments to push their political and economic agendas. In India, we know how some American and Scandinavian NGOs bankrolled the movement to stop the Russian-operated Kudankulam plant. Surprise surprise; church-groups were used to sabotage the project, which is a hallmark of Indo-Russian cooperation. The American-backed protestors in Kudankulam are now behind bars for “waging war against the nation,” something that NGOs in Russia are unlikely to be charged with if they violate the provisions of the bill.
The Russian NGO bill is fair and pretty much toes the line of a similar law in the United States. So, if something is good for the undisputed leader of the Free World, why do Western NGOs have a problem with such a bill when it comes to Russia? The penalties proposed by the Russian bill are far less severe than in America.
It’s only NGOs used as a front for foreign governments to advance their political goals in Russia that have to worry about the new legislation. There are thousands of NGOs that are involved in several causes that help the Russian people and this bill will not pose any kind of threat to them. But then we still have some people, who dream of a flower revolution in Russia, and as far-fetched as that may seem, there are enough independent accounts of opposition political parties in the country receiving some kind of assistance from overseas. A lot of this assistance comes via NGOs. It’s this kind of activity that the Russian Government wants to put an end to. Foreign governments that want to use the NGO route as a means for a coup d’état or to meet other political ends will have to find another way to advance their agenda.
This writer was the editor of the Sakhalin Times from 2003 to 2007.
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