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Afghan Policeman Kills Two U.S. Troops Minutes After They Hand Him A Gun
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Posted on 08/17/2012 9:22:09 AM PDT by chessplayer

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — A newly recruited Afghan village policeman opened fire on his American allies on Friday, minutes after they gave him a new weapon as a present, killing two U.S. service members. It was the latest in a disturbing string of attacks by Afghan security forces on the international troops training them.

Friday's attacker was identified as Mohammad Ismail, a man in his 30s who had joined the Afghan Local Police just five days ago.

He opened fire during an inauguration ceremony attended by American and Afghan national forces in the Kinisk village in the far western province of Farah, provincial police chief Agha Noor Kemtoz said.

"As soon as they gave the weapon to Ismail to begin training, suddenly he took the gun and opened fire toward the U.S. soldiers," Kemtoz said.

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KEYWORDS: afghanistan

1 posted on 08/17/2012 9:22:17 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Don’t give a gun to anyone named Mohammed.


2 posted on 08/17/2012 9:23:49 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Biden: "HOPE and CHAINS for all 57 states".)
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To: chessplayer

We need to pull the plug on those animals.

Once we are gone, we also need to withhold ‘assistance’. PERIOD


3 posted on 08/17/2012 9:25:19 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: chessplayer

Funny, I thought we were supposed to be out of Afghanistan by now.

There was a book called “Peace Child” years ago. Every time I think of the Muslims, I think of that book.

Basically it was about a missionary couple trying to teach a violent tribe about Jesus Christ, but they were stymied because the local culture was so founded in violence and treachery that they thought JUDAS was the hero of the story. Judas was actually smart enough to infiltrate an enemy, pretend to be friends for months, steal money, and then betrayed the leader to his death and walked off with the cash.

Sounds like this article a bit.


4 posted on 08/17/2012 9:29:27 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: chessplayer

We simply cannot work side by side with these...whatever they are. Putting American lives at risk against an enemy on another side is acceptable but it’s not when the enemy is among you. It’s not fair to our people. We can’t expect them to do this.

Our people need to be separate, isolated, or not there at all.


5 posted on 08/17/2012 9:30:29 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: chessplayer

Gosh, well I guess it’s worth it considering all the benefits we get from being there.


6 posted on 08/17/2012 9:32:41 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: chessplayer

Get us out of there!


7 posted on 08/17/2012 9:33:41 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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To: SkyDancer

That place is the rectum of the world.

And those people are incapable of self-government.


8 posted on 08/17/2012 9:36:29 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: chessplayer
Just following the instructions in their holy books. Nothing to see. Move on.

The Koran:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Sura (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Sura (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Sura (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Sura (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Sura (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Sura (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Sura (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make them prisoners,"

Sura (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"

Sura (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end

From the Hadith:

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’”

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

The Koran and hadiths are replete with examples of Muhammad's barbaric behavior. Robert Spencer does a good job here explaining Islam - Blogging the Qur’an Start at the bottom.

9 posted on 08/17/2012 9:36:29 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: chessplayer

Just leave and let the country implode. It’s all they know. We shouldn’t be in the business of culture building when this culture has shown time and time again that they don’t want it. Let them be, defend Israel when needed, and bring our troops home.


10 posted on 08/17/2012 9:41:02 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: chessplayer

Ridiculous! To hell with them! Let them kill each other in that God awful place not our troops!


11 posted on 08/17/2012 9:41:09 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: chessplayer

McChrystol, Petraeus, Norton Schwartz are F-ing traitors for continually putting out men in this situation. They should be stripped of rank and forced to stand posts with the enemy like the force our men to do.


12 posted on 08/17/2012 9:45:35 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: chessplayer

And Obama yawned.


13 posted on 08/17/2012 9:48:13 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: chessplayer

Douse him, and his family with pig blood, then toss them into a woodchipper. Mohammad Ismail goes last.

Do this every time a “trusted” Afghani murders our men and this WILL stop.


14 posted on 08/17/2012 9:48:29 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: chessplayer

Time to get out, end aid, and leave the ingrate Afghan savages to stew in their Taliban juices. Target terrorists/Taliban with drones and missiles but get our troops out! NOW! Of course this won’t happen.


15 posted on 08/17/2012 9:52:02 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: justice14

Be nice if it was that easy, but it isn’t. We leave, the Taliban take over. They invite al-Qaeda back in. Then we are right back to where we were before 9/11 and all the troops who died would have died in vain and for absolutely nothing.


16 posted on 08/17/2012 9:54:20 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Then nuke ‘em! Their satan is waiting. n/s


17 posted on 08/17/2012 10:02:49 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: SMARTY

And our troops are being killed for no reason at all.


18 posted on 08/17/2012 10:12:27 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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To: chessplayer

Time to declare victory and go home.....Take all of our stuff with us and then bomb the whole country back into the Stone Age.....oh, wait....


19 posted on 08/17/2012 10:15:57 AM PDT by Donkey Odious (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: chessplayer

> Then we are right back to where we were before 9/11

Not if we use aerial robotic war machines.

> and all
> the troops who died would have died in vain and for
> absolutely nothing.

Yes. They died for absolutely nothing.

Now, don’t go off on me. Go off on the idiotic politicians who thought they could win the “hearts and minds” of a vicious, barbaric, backwards looking people whose greatest use for a cell phone is as a remote IED detonator.

The boots on the ground were there in part to help create an alliance between the people of Afghanistan and the civilized world.

This has proven to be impossible, for a couple reasons.

1. Mohammedanism is not compatible with Western Civilization. There are few, if any, intersecting sets of values.

2. There is a critical mass of people in Afghanistan who are serious enough about Mohammed’s bloody death cult to make any real progress toward that goal impossible.

Give - It - Up.

No point in throwing any more blood at a monstrosity that has a bottomless appetite for American blood.

Monitor them from the air.

Destroy their leaders with unmanned missiles and other UAVs.

Fund and arm counter-insurgents.

Make their lives even more miserable than they already are.

Give them plenty of opportunity to die for their satanic demon god.

Just don’t allow them kill any more of us for it.


20 posted on 08/17/2012 10:16:14 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: ryan71; BipolarBob

We need to go to the root of the problem. Every time they do this, we need to inundate their country with Christianity. Blare the gospel from loudspeakers. Carpet bomb their cities with bibles and gospel tracts.

Change the religion, change the culture, and then you win the war.


21 posted on 08/17/2012 10:31:48 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Little Ray

Don’t forget, feet first.


22 posted on 08/17/2012 10:54:09 AM PDT by Postman (It's time again: US out of the UN. UN out of the US. Zero to follow. Make space in Kenya!)
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To: chessplayer

I know it’s a lot easier said then done. I won’t argue that. But couldn’t we keep that in check with CIA and spec ops? We almost did take Bin Laden out if it wasn’t for Clinton. Seems like we could just do clandestine operations. Terrorist site pops up. Send a team in and nail it with a missle.

Again. I know it’s not that easy, but it’s better than the horrible losses we are taking now. The place will always be one step from imploding, so great Americans will have died in vain anyway. Why add more to the count?

When we go to war, we should go to win as quickly as possible with our gloves off. To do otherwise is immoral and a disservice.


23 posted on 08/17/2012 10:58:39 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: chessplayer
all the troops who died would have died in vain and for absolutely nothing

It is painful to admit that this is exactly what has happened.

Nevertheless, we must admit it if we are to prevent it from happening again.

24 posted on 08/17/2012 11:01:27 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: chessplayer

Horrible. Again. But I have to ask:

Are these soldiers ordered to martyr themselves by handing a loaded gun to a local?

Why was that gun loaded in the first place?

Haven’t they figured out yet that there’s a good chance of this happening?

Why wasn’t a sniper (or some guards) deployed that would take out anyone making a threatening move?

Etc. etc.

And tomorrow or next week the same thing will happen again!

WTF???!!!


25 posted on 08/17/2012 11:06:13 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Postman

Don’t care, just so long as the villagers or townies go “Ewwwwwwww!” when they see it.
After all its them we’re trying to make an impression on: “If you betray us, you and your family will be defiled so that you can’t reach Paradise, then die in a horrible fashion.”


26 posted on 08/17/2012 11:07:15 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: chessplayer

Damn it all.

I say, past time to go.


27 posted on 08/17/2012 11:08:48 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: SMARTY

AMEN and AMEN!! BTW — where are Code Pink and Cindy Sheehan protesting these almost daily deaths in Afghanistan???? ~~~crickets~~~


28 posted on 08/17/2012 11:17:54 AM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: chessplayer

I won’t hold my breath waiting for Karzai’s apologies. He hasn’t given one yet has he?


29 posted on 08/17/2012 11:26:01 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: chessplayer

Obama’s fu_ked up war in Afghanistan... why does the national media not even care anymore? that’s a rhetorical question...


30 posted on 08/17/2012 11:46:14 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: chessplayer

The locals have to be trained to protect the opium poppy crop.


31 posted on 08/17/2012 12:34:41 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: I still care

I read the book. They were backwards violent people . . . until the gospel of Jesus changed them.

Our troops are not gonna change the afghanis. The gospel will if they are willing to receive it.

I’m not willing to risk more troops to achieve what they cannot do.

Bring them home.


32 posted on 08/17/2012 2:18:14 PM PDT by proparapi
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