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Why I Will Vote for Romney-Ryan in November
http://www.freerepublic.com/~mkjessup/ | 17 August 2012 | Mark Jessup (aka mkjessup)

Posted on 08/17/2012 3:40:53 PM PDT by mkjessup

I've been on FR since 2003. Hard to believe next March will be my 10th year here, assuming I don't get zotted for one reason or another, lol

To that handful of detractors who would LIKE to think this is my opus, guess again suckers - I would never give you the satisfaction of it. Now that we have that out of the way, why this vanity?

First of all, I'm posting this in News/Activism not because this is sourced from a network, newspaper, etc., but because I've noticed that nobody else worries about posting their vanities in the 'Personal/Blogger' section, so WTH should I?

Now for the purpose of my writing today: after a great deal of soul searching and I might add, a goodly amount of prayer, I have come to the conclusion that my vote in November must and will be cast for the GOP ticket of Romney and Ryan. I did not reach this decision easily. Even a casual review of my past posts will reveal that I have reviled, ridiculed, lambasted and sneered at Mitt Romney with the best of them. I've posted my own home brewed graphics to the laughs of my fellow FReepers, I have been steadfast in saying 'no damn way' would I ever even consider voting for that liberal Republican from Massachuetts, no way would I reward the GOP elites with my vote after they've pissed on conservatives from sea to shining sea. The Party of Reagan is no more, let no one deceive you. We as conservatives are more at home in the Tea Party, and yet what was for a short while the natural home for conservatives, i.e. the Republican Party is an unfamiliar neighborhood, a place that sometimes looks like the place we remember, but upon a second glance, we realize that everything is different now, everything has changed.

Now there are good and Godly conservatives who in a perfect world, WOULD be viable candidates for the Presidency, there is no need to list them all here, we all have our favorites and we all know who we would prefer to be voting for. Our own Tom Hoefling would be a better President than the miserable Kenyan sonuvabitch that is stinking up the White House right now, hell *I* would be a better President than that despicable usurper and liar, and so would most of you, my fellow FReepers.

Now I can recite (and in the past, I have) endless reasons as to why I could not and would not vote for Mitt Romney. In many ways it galls me no end to have reached the conclusion that my own Constitutional duty is to vote for a guy that I had sworn never to vote for. It really REALLY starches my shorts however I have had to question my own perspectives, my own views and ask myself the question, "can I honestly justify another four years of what one of my heroes Senator Joe McCarthy would certainly have labeled a 'Communist regime'?

I cannot do that. I do not like the presumptive GOP nominee, I do not agree with many of his past positions. However I cannot deny that one and only one of the two major party candidates for President is going to be sworn in next January. It will either be that treasonous little bastard 0bama, or it will be Mitt Romney. Anyone, and I mean ANYBODY, who thinks that Tom Hoefling, Virgil Goode, or any other non-'Rat/non-GOP candidate is going to be sworn in as our 45th President next year, I will personally bet $100,000 against that happening at any odds they wish, because that is how likely it is that NEITHER 0bama or Romney will end up being elected in November. I won't lose one dime on that sort of wager.

So how do I justify voting for the GOP and Romney this time around? Well, some things I do NOT believe about Romney is that he hates America, that he hates our capitalist system, that he wants to weaken our national defense, sell out our allies and reward our enemies. I don't agree with nor support his religious faith. But his belief in the tenets of Mormonism is quite frankly between him and God. Now while it is easy to find all sorts of things about the Mormon faith that fly in the face of basic traditional Christianity, if the choice is between a closet-crypto Muslim in the White House, and a church going, charitable, prayerful Mormon who doesn't cheat on his wife, doesn't smoke dope, doesn't even drink (is that true? I'm not sure but I think Mitt is a tee-totaler), I'm pulling the lever for that Mormon guy.

Picture all of America on a gigantic airliner, streaking through the sky, when word comes back from the cockpit that Captain 0bama has never even flown a plane of this size or any size, he's been reading the instruction manual from a hidden teleprompter on top of the instrument panel, we're headed for a bad patch of CAT (Clear Air Turbulence) and the illustrious fake pilot is going to try and fake his way through that turbulence, and it is a foregone conclusion that "we're all gonna die!" - but up in first class (of course, lol) Mitt Romney stands up and informs everyone that he IS a licensed pilot, and that he can get our airliner away from the turbulence, down to a safer altitude, get us back on the proper heading, and land safely at our destination. He offers to take the controls. SOME passengers question him "have you ever flown a plane like this?" and he answers honestly "no, not quite this size, but I AM a pilot, I HAVE flown in difficult circumstances before, and I've got more skills than that fake pilot up in the cockpit that we are about to crash with". Who the Hell is going to argue against that logic? No other pilots on board. No parachutes. And indeed, a fool and an oaf at the controls of the cockpit. WTF do we have to lose?

And another analogy that I've already posted recently, which is that conservatives need to do what the Western allies did in World War II, they did not particularly like Joe Stalin, in fact they knew him to be a rotten communist sonvuabitch but the "enemy of our enemy was our friend" (or at least a convenient ally) and the GREATER enemy was in Berlin, in the form of Hitler and we needed Stalin and his troops to attack the Nazis from the East, and that is why we sent them tons of lend-lease assistance to help them accomplish that. And what kind of fools would have urged a different course in that war? A course of telling Stalin and Soviet Russia that they were "on their own" and they would receive no assistance from us? Can you imagine for just a moment if Nazi Germany had prevailed on the Eurasian continent, the Swastika flying all the way from London to Vladivostok?

Now having painted that sort of grim picture of alternate history, I think we can agree that for all of Mitt Romney's faults, he is not a Joe Stalin, he may be a liberal but he is no Communist.

Can we say the same for 0bama and his crew of America-hating scumbags?

Now a powerful factor in my decision to support the GOP ticket was in fact, the selection of Paul Ryan as Romney's VP running mate. Now Paul Ryan is nobody's fool. If there was anybody I wanted to have the ear of 'President Romney' it would be Vice President Paul Ryan. Everyone keeps saying "if Romney would just move to the right", well I believe Paul Ryan is the best person to accomplish that task. They seem to have a good chemistry and that bodes well for the success of their ticket. The polls show Romney-Ryan up, and 0bama and the 'Rats freaking and shrieking as their numbers decline.

Now I have myself made the argument in the past that the only difference between Romney and 0bama is that 0bama is driving us to the edge of the cliff at 100 mph, and Romney is going to reduce our speed to a thrifty 55 mph. And even IF that were to be proven true, I'm not in any hurry to reach the edge of that cliff.

Now in closing, I ask the following question: how many of us would clench our teeth and pull the lever for Gerald Ford, or Bob Dole, or any other establishment RINO if it meant the end of 0bama? To get that filthy Communist out of the White House, I would (to paraphrase Sir Winston Churchill) 'consider writing in the name of the devil himself', and so for that reason my friends and FRiends, I will support and vote for the GOP ticket of Romney & Ryan in November, not because everything about it excites and pleases me, but because I cannot be a party to another 4 years of the Kenyan traitor staining and besmirching the Office once held by the greatest President of all history, Ronald Wilson Reagan. I submit that Reagan would vote for Romney. We can be assured that Sarah Palin is going to vote for Romney. So will Newt Gingrich. So will Rick Santorum. So IF I am making a mistake by casting my vote for the GOP this year, I will be in good company.

Thanks for your kind consideration.

Mark Jessup


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To: MEG33



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301 posted on 08/18/2012 6:05:49 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: SamAdams76
Mitt's been like cool hand Luke these past few months. Piling up money left and right (that he can't spend until after the convention). Choosing an excellent running mate who is not only conservative but ready for prime time. Bubblehead Katie Couric is probably afraid to interview him. Now I loved Sarah Palin but during the 2008 election, I cringed whenever I saw her going up against the mainstream media talking heads who were out to get her. She just wasn't ready for that. Paul Ryan - he will eat them for breakfast and they know it.

Your comments about the media reminded me of something I was thinking about earlier. I hope Romney & Ryan don't accept an invitation to appear on "Saturday Night Live" like McCain and Sarah did. No minds will be changed by using that program. I mean, people who love a blowhard jerk like Alec Baldwin and whatsherhoozie that did the Palin impersonation are not going to vote for Republicans.


Yeah, I know it's Tina Fey, but she's just whatsherhoozie to me.

302 posted on 08/18/2012 6:55:52 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina
I hope Romney & Ryan don't accept an invitation to appear on "Saturday Night Live" like McCain and Sarah did. No minds will be changed by using that program.

I agree. Those shows are nothing but a bear trap for any conservative politicians. Nothing good can come out of appearing on them. Especially with Romney as he is in no way cool and trying to appear cool will make him look like the world's biggest dork (think Richard Nixon on Laugh-In).

I suspect that Romney and Ryan are not going to be doing any entertainment shows this election. I hope I am right for they have serious business to attend to - such as removing the clowns that currently occupy our federal government.

303 posted on 08/18/2012 7:29:11 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: PAR

Romney = philosophical threat

Obama = existential threat


304 posted on 08/18/2012 7:42:49 PM PDT by kevao
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To: ansel12

Here is where Human Events reports Romney’s ACU rating of 88.98 over 9.45 years of service (they do rate Presidential nominees - try Google before you try slander and libel). http://www.humanevents.com/2012/01/05/romney-picks-up-most-congressional-endorsements-to-date/

Not as high as Paul Ryan’s 91.69, but better than Hussein’s 10%...

I have grown tired of you calling me a liar - it’s like having to deal with democrat.

Let me try again with small words and short sentences:
1.Reagan is good.

2.Even Reagan can seem bad, if you only talk about his bad points.

3. If you only look at bad points, and judge everything and anyhing by them, you will miss the good.

4. If you see only the bad points of someone, you can be so confused, as to think that Romney is as bad as Obama.

If you think clearly, and you care for this country, you will conclude that a better President is better than a worse President, and you would be able to see that Romney is better than Obama.


305 posted on 08/18/2012 8:32:12 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

You lying to smear Reagan is a lot different than someone giving the accurate and truthful history of candidate Romney, a history that you do not know, and seem determined to pretend doesn’t exist.

Quit trying to tell us that ACU rates Governors and that the failed Massachusetts Governor who left with 34% approval had an ACU rating, the man is a stone cold liberal and the ACU never rated him.

Your level of BS and dishonesty and distortion and anti-Reaganism, and anti-conservatism, is high.


306 posted on 08/18/2012 8:47:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: mkjessup

Quite honestly the fact that you need to write a long article to defend your decision to vote for Romney/Ryan against Obama/Biden, is mind boggling.

It’s not even a close call and never has been.


307 posted on 08/18/2012 8:56:44 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: BeauBo

Well said. Sadly those who are arguing against you seem to engage in exceptionally convoluted reasoning.

It’s sad because Romney is running a very conservative campaign against a very very leftist Obama.

But they just tell you that everything Romney says is a lie.

Seems to me that if a candidate has to become more conservative, that is a good thing. Conversion to pro life is a good thing. But no, nothing can be seen as good from the evil Romney.


308 posted on 08/18/2012 9:08:25 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams; BlackElk

Well, except for the fact that he has never “converted to pro-life.” His own “pro-life” position to this day intrinsically destroys all the fundamental, essential principles upon which the pro-life position completely depends. Notwithstanding a paper-thin layer of lies he has put around the judicial supremacist, pro-choice democrat, pro-choice for states package.


309 posted on 08/18/2012 9:29:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: SamAdams76

“For all his faults, Mitt Romney is Winston freaking Churchill compared to Barack Obama and the America-hating scum that surround him. We must remove Barack Obama this November.”

What he said.


310 posted on 08/18/2012 9:43:42 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: icwhatudo

Who thought up this brilliant strategy? The Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly?

311 posted on 08/18/2012 9:48:49 PM PDT by Tramonto
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To: livius

Nicely written.


312 posted on 08/18/2012 10:23:09 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: Tramonto

You got it, I want that bumper sticker.

You left out the third Romney argument though,”yeah! but at least he isn’t Muslim”.


313 posted on 08/18/2012 10:33:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Sola Veritas

If Mitt Romney screws up as president, then what will conservative voters DO in 2016? Will there be a final candidate for the GOP POTUS in 2016 that, really, is a decent conservative, too, or will there, only, be Mitt Romney running for a second term?


314 posted on 08/18/2012 10:49:59 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: mkjessup
I'm in.

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315 posted on 08/18/2012 10:50:53 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: mkjessup

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920264/posts


316 posted on 08/18/2012 10:55:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Kevmo

Conservatism loses, if there aren’t enough conservatives in the House AND Senate to make conservative legislation law. Help to make the next House and the next Senate conservative enough to overrule and override anything and everything “leftist” that “a President Mitt Romney” attempts to do, during Mitt Romney’s entire duration as POTUS. Ditto, if Barack Obama is re-elected.


317 posted on 08/18/2012 11:08:25 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: ansel12
You are either lying in calling me a liar, or you are not bright enough to follow. Here are the points I made about Reagan:

1. He regretted signing pro-abortion legislation as Govenor - you admit this.

2. He was divorced from Jane Wyman - fact. Back then, there was moral stigma associated with divorce, which is pretty well gone now. In its day, it was considered scandalous and offensive to social conservatives.

3. He was a once registerd Democrat - fact.

4. He was once a Union member - in fact he was a Union boss.

None of that is a lie. You saying those are lies, is a lie or an error. Liar, or just inattentive and biased enough to jump to the wrong conclusion?

My point is not to discount people in their entirety, if they fall short in one category or another, or fail one litmus test or another.

Did you check the Human Events link I provided for Romney's ACU rating? I guess they are just lying also, and everybody is lying, and everybody is lacking any redeeming quality, except for you.

No one who is a straight (no pun intended) uncompromising conservative on every issue could get elected in Massachusetts. If you want anyone to get in there and contest one party Democrat control of everything, they will HAVE to compromise some conservative positions. To insist on all or nothing in Massachusetts will reliably result in nothing - a decision that is either weak on logic emotionally immature.

My central point, is my opinion about Romney's motivation - I think a good bit of "why" he has adopted liberal social positions is simply a professional politician pandering to a liberal Massachusetts electorate to get elected. You seem to attribute it with utter certainty to an essential characteristic of his being, which is totally devoid of any truth or shame, etc., etc. Granted, if he were firmly committed against those positions he would not compromise on them, but to me, he seems more like he was carefully tap dancing around hot button social issues trying to please who he needed to please. I believe that his priority is fiscal conservatism, rather than social conservatism, and I believe that fiscal conservatism is something that we need urgently in Washington.

It is easy to be pure while sitting in one's PJ's at home, but to get out there every day for 12 or 15 hours with your shoes shined and shirt pressed dealing with everything under the sun to get elected as a Republican in Massachusetts with three registered Democratsis for every Republican is quite a feat, and demands quite a bit of juggling and finessing and smooth talking. As TR put it:

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds

Romney was not my first, second or third pick in the primary, But I can appreciate what a high wire act he had to perform as a Republican in Massachusetts, with the press recording every word to bash him as a right-wing extermist with the liberal majority of voters there.

I did not post in favor of Romney until the primary fight was done, and then I followed Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment: "Thou shall speak no ill of a fellow Republican." That commandment is based on practical politcal wisdom - You need to build a coalition of 50% plus 1 to win (52% or 53% if you are Republican, for the voter fraud margin).

Now that the primary is over, I am out knocking on doors and making phone calls and doing what I can to uphold the oath that I carried through 25 years of service and three wars - to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That does not leave me the luxury of nuturing any petty fits of pique.

Obama Must Be Defeated!

318 posted on 08/18/2012 11:26:32 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

You are still lying.

You said Reagan “”did evolve to be solidly pro-life.””

“”Despite his (then) scandalously liberal personal life as a divorcee””

“”Thank goodness that conservatives supported him despite his Libertarian social leanings “”

I posted this * Reagan was always pro-life, he didn’t “evolve” into it, and yes that bill he hesitantly signed in his first six months in office in 1967, he regretted greatly, as it was abused. I have never heard that Reagan was famous for scandals. None of this has anything to do with the anti-Reagan Romney.

Reagan was a famously anti-communist Union head, and 1948 was the last time that Reagan voted for a democrat president, after that he always campaigned for the republican. Reagan was a social conservative, a famous hero of the religious right and social conservatives.

Conservatives did not support him “in spite of” he was THE LEADER OF CONSERVATISM, conservatives were his base, Reagan led them to victory over the Romney wing of the party.

Are you going to go to that Human Events link and actually read it? Or keep not reading it, like you do my posts?

Mitt Romney DOES NOT HAVE ANY ACU RATING!!

I have posted a great amount of history to you on Mitt Romney, and you simply ignore it and lie about him as though he was merely pretending to be a moderate republican in Massachusetts, a state that he did not have to run in ( he could have run in Utah), and besides, he was the FOURTH REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR IN A ROW there, it is a state that prefers republican governors.

You just blow off insights like this.

Mitt Romney- “One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.”


319 posted on 08/18/2012 11:48:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12; BeauBo; All

320 posted on 08/19/2012 12:34:30 AM PDT by mkjessup (To paraphrase Sir Winston: "if 0bama invaded Hell, I would put in a good word for the Devil")
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To: mkjessup

Again, kid stuff.

This is the level you think at? This is the level of your devotion to the man, personal attacks and zero substance?


321 posted on 08/19/2012 12:49:10 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: mkjessup
To: Deb; xzins; All
You know me better than that. I would never recommend anyone vote for Obama.

I would never vote for, support or endorse a person for president whose only government record is that of an abortionist, homosexualist, gun-grabbing, global warming hoax pushing, liberal judge appointing, crony capitalist, mandate loving, big government statist!!

Regardless of party affiliation.

And I sincerely doubt that the good U.S. Army Chaplain and Patriot, Xzins would either.

We are the resistance!!

For God and Country!!

Thank you and God bless. 185 posted on Wed May 16 2012 18:35:13 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)

322 posted on 08/19/2012 12:58:40 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

The Republican Govenors in Massachusetts before Romney - Weld, Celluci and Swift were all social liberals - making my point for me. Abortion, homosexuality, gun control.

You just blow off insights like this.

I am bored of dealing with you - signing off.

Obama Must Be Defeated!


323 posted on 08/19/2012 1:02:59 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo
You ignored post 319, as you ignore all facts, you still don't understand that the ACU does not rate governors, or know the true reality of Reagan, or the truth about Romney.

You didn't know that Massachusetts has always preferred republican governors (until the Romney disaster), or that Mitt Romney, the anti-Reagan, anti-Jesse Helms, anti-flat tax, anti-Contract with America liberal, names William Weld as his political hero.

Right now, you seem ready to admit that Romney truly is the liberal that I describe, **"" Weld, Celluci and Swift were all social liberals - making my point for me. Abortion, homosexuality, gun control. You just blow off insights like this.""**

Romney is proof, that there is no limit, the left has defeated the core American people.

324 posted on 08/19/2012 1:25:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Help to make the next House and the next Senate conservative enough to overrule and override anything and everything “leftist” that “a President Mitt Romney” attempts to do, during Mitt Romney’s entire duration as POTUS. Ditto, if Barack Obama is re-elected.
***Yup. Do what’s best for conservatism. What would be your plan to get a conservative into POTUS for 2016 if Rumnuts wins? Unseat a sitting republican president?


325 posted on 08/19/2012 1:48:58 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: ansel12

From here:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/06/19/mitt-romney-and-abortion-why-are-pro-lifers-still-questioning-convert/

Romney sometimes compares his pro-life conversion to that of President Ronald Reagan. It’s not a perfect comparison, but there are some remarkable similarities. Like Romney, Reagan was the Republican governor of a pro-choice state who faced the prospect of enacting a law that would lead to the destruction of innocent human life.

Just a few months into his term as governor of California in 1967, Reagan signed the Therapeutic Abortion Act, which permitted abortion when the mental or physical health of the mother was endangered or when statutory rape had occurred.

It was a liberal law, especially for that time, and the mental and physical health exceptions became loopholes that led to a surge in California’s abortion rate. But the law’s effects also led to a change in Reagan. As Dinesh D’Souza wrote in “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary Man Became an Extraordinary Leader”:

“[Reagan’s] subsequent private correspondence shows he was genuinely shocked by the magnitude of abortions under the new law. His subsequent correspondence suggests that he was intensely grieved by this outcome. Edwin Meese, a senior aide, told me that Reagan’s regrets over his role in promoting abortion on demand in California may have intensified his pro-life convictions and led him, as a presidential candidate, to support measures like the human life amendment, which would establish a blanket prohibition on abortion.”

Like Reagan, Romney is a contrite convert, referring to his past support for Roe as his life’s “defining mistake.” When challenged about his previous support for abortion in a Republican debate in December, he said “I changed my mind…I’m firmly pro-life…sometimes I’m wrong.”

Mitt Romney displays humility and gratitude in discussing his evolution on abortion. Skeptical pro-lifers should do the same in embracing him.

Former presidential candidate Gary Bauer is president of American Values and chairman of the Campaign for Working Families, and served for 8 years in the administration of President Ronald Reagan, including a stint as Reagan’s domestic policy adviser.


326 posted on 08/19/2012 2:19:08 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Kevmo; johnthebaptistmoore
johnthebaptistmoore ""Conservatism loses, if there aren’t enough conservatives in the House AND Senate to make conservative legislation law. Help to make the next House and the next Senate conservative enough to overrule and override anything and everything “leftist” that “a President Mitt Romney” attempts to do, during Mitt Romney’s entire duration as POTUS. Ditto, if Barack Obama is re-elected.""

Didn't that plan get us through the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010,s?

The plan sounds like more like history, status quo, and failure, than a plan.

327 posted on 08/19/2012 2:23:28 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

The plan sounds like more like history, status quo, and failure, than a plan.
***It is a standard GOP plan. The same plan that includes throwing conservatives under the bus but demanding their vote.


328 posted on 08/19/2012 2:28:04 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: woofie

Reagan never converted, or needed to convert, Reagan was never pro-abortion.

Mitt Romney was 20 years old in 1967, he says that he had already been pro-abortion for 4 years, in 1973 Roe v Wade happened, Romney was pro-abortion, 1980, the abortion wars really kicked in, America elected social conservative hero, Ronald Reagan, Romney was still pro-abortion, 1984, Romney still pro-abortion, 1988, 1992,1994,1996,2000,2004, Romney is still pro-abortion.

During those years, Romney financially supported, campaigned for, and fund raised for pro-abortion democrats over republicans (SEE POST 299),

How do you equate this with a pro-life social conservative’s rookie mistake in 1967, when we had never even heard of “pro-life”, and Pro-choice” ?


329 posted on 08/19/2012 2:38:57 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: woofie
Mitt Romney displays humility and gratitude in discussing his evolution on abortion. Skeptical pro-lifers should do the same in embracing him.

Actually, we have many quotes where Mitt Romney and/or his wife, denies having ever been pro-abortion, of course we have a few where he admits that he was, that isn't "contrite".

This is Mitt Romney raising money for abortions, bringing his name to a Planned parenthood fund raiser.

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330 posted on 08/19/2012 3:15:42 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Kevmo

We all have to see what happens next, between January ‘13 and January ‘17, before knowing what’s best for conservatives and conservatism.


331 posted on 08/19/2012 4:21:36 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: ansel12; All
Again, kid stuff.

You receive posts proportionate to your own redundant and puerile commentary.

This is the level you think at? This is the level of your devotion to the man, personal attacks and zero substance?

Let me ask you a quick question: do you become engorged and turgid every time you use those words "devoted" or "devotion" ? - I know why you use those words, you're trying to paint with a broad brush anyone and everyone who has realized that Romney & Ryan are the only shot we have at getting 0bama out of the White House as being some sort of drooling and mindless automatons that worship Romney. Big difference between "devotion" (don't get excited now Ansel, I used your 'd-word') and resigned acceptance to what must be done. Now that we have that out of the way...

You need to realize that your attacks on what will most certainly be the GOP ticket of Romney & Ryan do absolutely NOTHING beneficial except to provide support by default to the Kenyan usurper. We all know Romney has faults, up until recently I would have been high fiving most of your anti-Romney screeds, however now is the time to close ranks, quit the gutter-sniping at our own team, and focus on the ENEMY, which is 0bama.

So who are you voting for pal?
332 posted on 08/19/2012 5:48:41 AM PDT by mkjessup (To paraphrase Sir Winston: "if 0bama invaded Hell, I would put in a good word for the Devil")
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To: ansel12; All
You can quote JimRob all you like, and I'm on record for respecting his position. You however, must ask yourself if by your words, deeds and actions you are contributing to the defeat, or to the re-election victory of 0bama in November. I challenge you to review the number of posts in this thread which echo and support the decision that I have made in this matter. Are those FReepers all fools and sell outs? Is Sarah Palin a sell out? Are you utterly wiser and more of a sage than any one of us, smarter and morally superior to Sarah Palin herself? She understands the urgency to get 0bama OUT of the White House, she no doubt had her reservations about Romney, as did we all, as do many of us still, but to her credit and to the credit of growing numbers of conservatives in this Nation, we are closing ranks not because we endorse each and every position that Mitt Romney holds or has held in the past, (and not because we are devoted to him), but because we have come to the realization that a second term of 0bama means that America will deal with "0bama unplugged" and there will be little to no restraints or inhibitions upon that filthy little Communist as to what he will do to what's left of America.

I know where I stand. I stand with what is the future of my Country, and I have put my own pride and personal views aside for the greater good, which MUST be the defeat of 0bama, nothing else matters at this point.
333 posted on 08/19/2012 6:02:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (To paraphrase Sir Winston: "if 0bama invaded Hell, I would put in a good word for the Devil")
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To: ansel12
Send your invoice for 'services rendered' to:

0bama for America
1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Washington DC 20666

Kindly include a copy of your post so your 'Rat account may be promptly credited with payment.
334 posted on 08/19/2012 6:04:53 AM PDT by mkjessup (To paraphrase Sir Winston: "if 0bama invaded Hell, I would put in a good word for the Devil")
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To: ansel12
I am fiercely anti abortion and between 1963 and 1973 we adopted 3 infants. Had there not been a place for those infants (my home) they could easily have been aborted.

I remain fiercely anti abortion and guess what, I am voting for Romney Ryan and you are a blithering idiot if you can't figure out the reason why!

335 posted on 08/19/2012 8:45:11 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: mkjessup; Alamo-Girl; MEG33
SOME passengers question him "have you ever flown a plane like this?" and he answers honestly "no, not quite this size, but I AM a pilot, I HAVE flown in difficult circumstances before, and I've got more skills than that fake pilot up in the cockpit that we are about to crash with". Who the Hell is going to argue against that logic? No other pilots on board. No parachutes. And indeed, a fool and an oaf at the controls of the cockpit. WTF do we have to lose?

Absolutely outstanding analysis, mkjessup! Thank you ever so much for writing/posting it!

336 posted on 08/19/2012 9:39:50 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Ditter
I don't need to say 'the Lord bless you' for your adopting those infants, I'm sure He already has.

And, my fellow FReeper, you drive home the point that the ABR crowd seems to conveniently overlook, which is that if Sarah Palin, who chose life for her little boy Trig, instead of aborting him for any number of reasons including his genetic issues, is supporting Romney & Ryan, does that make her a hypocrite? Does it make Paul Ryan, a steadfast pro-life American, a hypocrite for accepting the VP slot? Rick Santorum is as pro-life as they come, is he a sell out for closing ranks behind Romney?

The defining moment is upon us as Americans, and that means we focus on the ultimate priority and that is to beat 0bama!

It ain't rocket science!
337 posted on 08/19/2012 9:43:41 AM PDT by mkjessup (To paraphrase Sir Winston: "if 0bama invaded Hell, I would put in a good word for the Devil")
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To: betty boop

Thank you for the kind words BB, they are appreciated :)


338 posted on 08/19/2012 9:45:10 AM PDT by mkjessup (To paraphrase Sir Winston: "if 0bama invaded Hell, I would put in a good word for the Devil")
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To: mkjessup
Under Obama the abortions will continue and the death panels will then include not only old people but also infants and children who need life saving surgeries for birth defects. Watch and see where the “purity” of those who reject R/R and allow obama to win 4 more years will take us.
339 posted on 08/19/2012 9:52:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: mkjessup; Alamo-Girl; MEG33; ThirstyMan
Of course, mkjessup, it goes without saying that the reason I find your essay/post an absolutely outstanding analysis is because I agree with every word you wrote, especially including the "prayer" part.

I WILL be voting — enthusiastically — for the Romney/Ryan ticket come November 6th. "Wild, wild horses couldn't keep me away."

And — having realized what is clearly at stake for our constitutional Republic in this election — I won't even have to "hold my nose," THIS time....

Thanks again for your excellent work!

340 posted on 08/19/2012 11:39:36 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: mkjessup
You will write and post a vanity in service and devotion to Mitt Romney, your participation at FR seems to be childish, trivial, and troll like, as you mock it and it's conservative identity and purpose.

Post after troll like post comes from you, not saying anything of substance, or persuasion, but more like a kids copying of what he thinks Bill Maher does as a devotee of Obama.

Mitt Romney and his politics, own you, you have become so devoted to his candidacy, that you post vanities in his honor, and to his cause.

Mitt Romney, who considers William Weld his mentor, you have come a long way since you signed up for this forum, now you are connected to William Weld politically.

When asked who he identified most with politically, Mitt Romney answered: “I think Bill Weld comes as close as anyone,” he said when asked whom in his party he aligned with. “I think Bill Weld’s fiscal conservatism, his focus on creating jobs and employment and his efforts to fight discrimination and assure civil rights for all is a model that I identify with and aspire to.”

You've come a long way baby, since you signed up, keep lecturing us here at freerepublic, keep striving to turn us into William Weld and Mitt Romney.

341 posted on 08/19/2012 11:50:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

We all have to see what happens next, between January ‘13 and January ‘17, before knowing what’s best for conservatives and conservatism.
***No we don’t have to. Your argument is invalid, an argument from silence. The silence in this case being the future. You argue from what you know, not what you don’t know. And in this case what we do know is that Romney is a lying, gun-grabbing, babykilling statist.


342 posted on 08/19/2012 1:34:40 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: ansel12; SamAdams76; exit82; OrangeHoof; MEG33; BeauBo; mountainfolk; Ditter; rbmillerjr; woofie; ..
First of all *ping* to my many FRiends who have graciously responded and posted in this thread. I believe you would find Ansel12's post #341 'interesting' and I invite your comments in addition to my own below, so let's get started:

Ansel12 writes in his latest screed:

You will write and post a vanity in service and devotion to Mitt Romney, your participation at FR seems to be childish, trivial, and troll like, as you mock it and it's conservative identity and purpose.

So what of the many FReepers (who outnumber you in this thread) that have agreed with me, supported me, and have chosen to close ranks and unite in a common purpose, which is to defeat 0bama in November? Are they also childen, are their beliefs trivial, are they also 'trolls'?

You are a fool.

Post after troll like post comes from you, not saying anything of substance, or persuasion, but more like a kids copying of what he thinks Bill Maher does as a devotee of Obama.

I have had plenty to say, and I daresay there is more than enough substance, evidenced by the numbers of my fellow FReepers who have come forward. You choose to ignore what is inconvenient or impossible for you to respond to. I am no troll, I've been here on FR longer than you have Sparky, and I recognize that as another FReeper stated upthread, "survival trumps ideology", you however would choose to not only refuse to bail water to keep the boat from sinking, you would begin hacking holes in the hull with an axe because you didn't like the owner of the boat. Again I say, you are a fool.

Mitt Romney and his politics, own you, you have become so devoted to his candidacy, that you post vanities in his honor, and to his cause.

You are a liar. I have posted ONE and only one vanity (this thread you keep returning to), and my posts are based on the reality you deny, which is that if we as conservatives refuse to close ranks and vote for the only candidates who have a good chance of defeating 0bama, it will be upon our shoulders and it will be to our everlasting shame if that despicable Communist is returned for another term in the White House. If Mitt Romney and his politics "own" me, then they also own Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Rick Perry and Paul Ryan as well. Condemn them as well, I dare you. Curse them and call them every name you can think of. Apply the same standard to them, they who are in the public arena and understand the risk of a second 0bama term.

Mitt Romney, who considers William Weld his mentor, you have come a long way since you signed up for this forum, now you are connected to William Weld politically. When asked who he identified most with politically, Mitt Romney answered: “I think Bill Weld comes as close as anyone,” he said when asked whom in his party he aligned with. “I think Bill Weld’s fiscal conservatism, his focus on creating jobs and employment and his efforts to fight discrimination and assure civil rights for all is a model that I identify with and aspire to.”

Tell us this Ansel12, if you were in the voting booth and faced with the choice of 0bama-Biden for a second term, or William Weld and Paul Ryan, who would you vote for?

You've come a long way baby, since you signed up, keep lecturing us here at freerepublic, keep striving to turn us into William Weld and Mitt Romney.

I am going to state this as clearly as I can now, so pay close attention:

You are a fool living in a delusion of your own making. Your hatred for Romney has blinded you to the real and tangible threat posed by the potential re-election of 0bama.

You seem to think that conjuring up the name and image of 'William Weld' that it somehow lends credence to your deranged belief that Romney is just as much a threat to our Nation as is 0bama, but your continued diatribes have made it abundantly clear that in fact YOU have become a political Harold Camping, predicting the end of the world as we know it if conservatives choose to vote against 0bama by voting for Romney & Ryan. Your manic shrieks of outrage and angst are the outbursts of someone not entirely stable.

I stand by every word that I have posted in this thread, and I will do as I have said I will do, I will vote the GOP ticket in November, and I will do that not out of some 'devotion' as you call it, to Mitt Romney, I will do it because my Nation demands it of me, my conscience requires it of me, and you can go slink off into a corner and pout if you wish, I'm fighting under the banner of "0bama Must Be Defeated", your continued mewling serves only the objectives of those who want to see 0bama returned to Office, and I hope you'll ultimately wake up from your self-imposed Romney-hating stupor and understand that.

Meanwhile, step aside Harold, as the rest of us have a war to fight to remove 0bama from OUR White House.
343 posted on 08/19/2012 1:59:55 PM PDT by mkjessup (To paraphrase Sir Winston: "if 0bama invaded Hell, I would put in a good word for the Devil")
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To: mkjessup
So what of the many FReepers (who outnumber you in this thread) that have agreed with me

Gosh, I'm outnumbered on a mkjessup, Mitt Romney thread, I'm supposed to be surprised at Mitt's fan base being attracted to one of his devotional threads by his most, personally hostile, aggressive devotee?

To quote a poster on your devotion thread, who did not agree with you.

To To: upchuck
My only comment is I will not vote FOR a known abortionist/homosexualist, gun-grabbing, big government socialist/statist. That would betray everything I believe in and promote. Would make a mockery of FR just as it’s making a mockery of the GOP as a conservative political force.

Romney as a conservative is a complete fraud.

Here’s the proof of that from his own mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded

64 posted on Fri Aug 17 2012 16:43:39 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)

344 posted on 08/19/2012 2:27:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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Well, ansel12 can say whatever he wants to about "William Weld."

All I have to say is (speaking as a life-long citizen of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts): William Weld was a damned sight better than 0Bama's soulmate, Deval Patrick.

I dunno. It seems to me that some folks around here are suffering from a lack of sense of proportion....

But at the end of the day, mk, I think they mean well — even though we disagree that they are "doing well."

The standard criterion of "wellness" being: the well-being of our constitutional Republic, which only a blind person cannot see is under the gravest attack/threat since the days of Joseph Stalin....

This time, the attack comes from the INSIDE.

I have not the slightest doubt that 0Bama is working fulltime/overtime to IMPLODE the American system from within. Just as his mentors Cloward and Pivins instructed him, using the "playbook" of Saul Alinsky to get that result "done."

His White House is a cesspool of moral depravity.

And yet some folks around here think ROMNEY is the problem????

To me, such an assessment defies logic, reason, and experience!

Oh well....

May God continue to bless America — because some of US at least aren't doing our jobs as citizens!

JMHO FWIW

345 posted on 08/19/2012 2:28:07 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: mkjessup; betty boop

” I will vote the GOP ticket in November, and I will do that not out of some ‘devotion’ as you call it, to Mitt Romney, I will do it because my Nation demands it of me, my conscience requires it of me.”

Amen!


346 posted on 08/19/2012 3:03:08 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: betty boop

“I have not the slightest doubt that 0Bama is working fulltime/overtime to IMPLODE the American system from within. Just as his mentors Cloward and Pivins instructed him, using the “playbook” of Saul Alinsky to get that result “done.”

Why all cannot see this is frightening...I knew what a Marxist Obama was before he was elected..I had no idea he could bring this country down so far so fast.

God help us save our beloved Republic.

DEFEAT THE OBAMANATION


347 posted on 08/19/2012 3:14:36 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: ansel12; All
So what of the many FReepers (who outnumber you in this thread) that have agreed with me
Gosh, I'm outnumbered on a mkjessup, Mitt Romney thread, I'm supposed to be surprised at Mitt's fan base being attracted to one of his devotional threads by his most, personally hostile, aggressive devotee?


"personally hostile and aggressive"?

Pot, kettle, black.

Once again, you can quote JimRob until the cows come home, you're not going to bait anyone, least of all me to say one critical word regarding our Founder, who instituted that 'truce' that you seem determined to break. You talk about trolls, look in the mirror. You have exhibited nothing but obsessive and compulsive behavior in your returning time and time again to post the same drivel with absolutely nothing new under the sun. If anything, you are convincing more and more people that to close ranks behind Romney & Ryan is indeed, the conservative thing to do, because a true thinking and dedicated conservative already knows that Job One is to defeat 0bama, which to you is obviously a secondary goal.

So once again will you vote to defeat 0bama by voting the GOP ticket, or will your default be to support the Kenyan usurper's bid for a second term?
348 posted on 08/19/2012 3:33:28 PM PDT by mkjessup (To paraphrase Sir Winston: "if 0bama invaded Hell, I would put in a good word for the Devil")
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To: MEG33

Obama has a lot of help (and still does) from George Soros and his money; and Soros’ funded groups.

However, I credit Rush Limbaugh and all the surrogates conservative radio created .. because they have been steadily educating and informing the public. I’ve lost count of all the people who have called Rush and told him how they used to be a liberal, but after listening to him, they totally changed their minds.

I keep wondering if people are giving true info in the polls. I believe that happened in the 2004 election, and the left was stunned when Bush got 4,000,000 more votes.

The Silent Majority strikes again.


349 posted on 08/19/2012 3:35:01 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: CyberAnt

Rush has been a great help to the conservative cause.
I pray people wake up..I see people posting that this will be a landslide vote against Obama..We cannot assume anything.

The polls do not reflect this..NO complacency!

Every vote counts..


350 posted on 08/19/2012 3:46:05 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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