Skip to comments.Social Security Administration Explains Plan to Buy 174,000 Hollow-Point Bullets
Posted on 08/17/2012 4:19:34 PM PDT by IbJensen
(CNSNews.com) The Social Security Administration posted a blog on Thursday to explain why it was planning to purchase 174,000 hollow point bullets.
SSA posted a "Request for Quote for Ammunition" on the FedBizOps.gov website on Aug. 7. The request listed the commodity that SSA desired as ".357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition." The quantity listed was "174 TH."
The SSAs Office of the Inspector Generals said it posted a new blog on the agencys website, Beyond the Numbers, as we strive to be a transparent and accountable government organization for all of our stakeholders.
With those goals in mind, we thought it would be appropriate to address recent media reports regarding the organizations purchase of ammunition for our special agents duty weapons, the blog post states.
The blog states that the SSA has 295 special agents who work in 66 offices across the United States.
These investigators have full law enforcement authority, including executing search warrants and making arrests, the blog post states. Our investigators are similar to your State or local police officers.
They use traditional investigative techniques, and they are armed when on official duty, the blog post states.
Concern expressed in some media reports about the type of ammunition ordered by the agency is unfounded, the blog states, explaining that the .357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacked hollow point pistol ammunition is standard issue for many law enforcement agencies and is appropriate for the work agents perform.
Our special agents need to be armed and trained appropriately, the blog post states. They not only investigate allegations of Social Security fraud, but they also are called to respond to threats against Social Security offices, employees, and customers.
The blog also links to another post about a fight that broke out near an SSA office in Massachusetts that required action by law enforcement officials.
SSA is processing more applications than ever, which means more traffic in SSA office, the blog states. Employee and visitor safety is the highest priority for OIG, which, together with the Federal Protective Services and local law enforcement, has jurisdiction over SSA workplaces.
Prior to the blog being posted, CNSNews.com had asked the agency specific questions about its ammunition order. Although some of those questions were addressed by the information provided in the blog, the agency did not say why it needed 174,000 bullets and if that quantity was customary or had increased from previous orders.
I can understand a monthly requirement to visit the range but this is a bit much. Just a reminder that the conpiratorial Alex Jones from info wars has been talking about this for months. Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths. Expecting something?
580 plus rounds EACH for their agents.
First question, what is the SSA doing with 200+ agents? Second question, how often do they need to qualify?
Third question, how often are they required to practice?
Niiice - so these “domestic” agencies have collectively accumulated enough ammo to put at least 4 rounds into every single one of us in the US. Nothing to see here. Move on. All is well!!! Any analogy between Obama’s desire and fascism/marxism is TOTALLY bogus. C’mon man - why would you trust your lying eyes versus Team Obama?? Hope and change!!
Well, there’s gonna be a lot of pissed-off grandmas after that evil Romney and Ryan take away their Social Security!
My husband, a retired Army professional marksman, does not think that hollow point bullets are appropriate for range practice. They are intended to be kill shots.
Fourth question: why do they need to practice with hollow-points?
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Is this the well armed “civilian army” that obama promised us. Hollow points are made for killing only and not for practice. Does the obamamites fear an insurrection. OIF vet
Its going to be 100x worse, if that POS gets another 4yrs. Hes got nothing left to lose, and will dictate by EO, bypassing the Constitution and Congress. 93% of America has no frigging clue as to whats coming, as long as their TVs work and toilets flush. God help us all...
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Ok, so fine, there is some minimal need for such but I find it interesting that so many departments with similar minimal needs have all decided to make large purchases weeks before the end of the fiscal year of the federal government. Just another coinky-dink of this administration, I’m sure.
Maybe these agencies should be looking over their shoulders.
The sh!tstorm is around the corner. And they know it.
If this is routine, then there must be records of similar purchases in previous years. If such is the case, then perhaps this *is* no big deal. However, in other articles I’ve read about this, reporters have asked about purchases of previous years and SSA has refused to give any accounting for that. This is troubling.
Exactly. Full jacketed bullets are used for proficiency training. JHP are used for kill shots.
QUESTION: Is it ridiculous to believe that a corrupt crony government will disarm the people at the behest of their super elite and mega rich cronies who own our government and have their own security?
If you were rich and could walk away with billions like those on Wall Street and as others have done, without ever paying the price of prosecution, would you prefer having armed peasants around, or would you prefer that they be disarmed?
Since prehistoric times, the weak have been kept weak by keeping them working and unarmed. Will it change now?
It goes on. “Practice” with expensive hollow-point ammo is a waste of money. While our govenment are experts at wasting money, perhaps there’s more than they are letting on? It goes on.
It is time to stop ALL of these agency police from the Railroad Police to the SS. I don’t even think the FBI is Constitutional much less the others.
You and I both know those aren’t practice rounds.
While NATO troops are forbidden HP rounds in international conflicts, there is no such restriction against domestic use upon citizens of the U.S.
On the other hand, Federal agency budgets must be fully expended at the end of the fiscal year soon to come, or the followinkg year’s budget will be cut. I’m left to wonder at the justification - and the decision maker for all these seemingly random alphabet agencies - for spending it all on er ah social use ammunition. Like what they’d load up on if they anticipated hostile interaction with members of the general public.
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The Border guards use bean bag guns and are advised to duck and evade when confronted by a Mexican gangster.
Yet, the SS folks are issued hollow point bullets???
Fourth question, why do they need hollow-point bullets for practice or to qualify?
Stocking up in advance of ammo restrictions?
The biggest gun nuts are our Federale Gov’t. We have all kinds of Fed agencies with armed idiots. I know the Ag department has armed chicken inspectors and enforcers. And the ATF is the worst going by their botched raid on the Branch Davidians. I know there are good ATF agents but overall it’s a lousy stupid agency
Almost exactly what I’ve seen happening and believed for 2yrs+ now. Who knew it could happen to us, this fast?
93% of America has no clue. And so many “diehards” on FR are just skipping the vote against him/for Romney for mere “downticket” choices. If he gets a 2nd term, nothing “downticket” will matter one damned bit.
Forget the Dec 21st, 2012 Mayan Calendar end-times crap; Nov 7th is far, far more important...
Was this article ever posted in it entirety?
Hollow points are made for killing only and not for practice.Yup.
Personally I can see a nationwide campaign to get millions of Americans used to the idea of wearing body armor, I don’t mean bulky flak vests, lightweight concealed outerwear with ballistic material sewn inside.
There are quite a few companies around that sell nice looking clothes with such material, I buy remnants of ballistic cloth like Kevlar and I sewn them into my Carhart double knee work pants, makes them last a lot longer and are also good for protection when I ride my motorcycles.
Why do our Government, non-military employees have ammunition specifically forbidden for our military men and women to use during a war?
You practice with what you’re going to shoot with in your carry gun. How else will you know if you have a feed problem?
Are hollow points available to ordinary citizens who have gun licenses?
Are hollow points available to ordinary citizens who have gun licenses?
The ammo I used in Iraq was not hollow point so why hollow point for civilian agencies????
The Loyalist (Tory) militia needs munitions and arms to fight the rebels. They aren’t armed now with little more than an obamaphone.