After 30 years, the Marines are returning to the Colt .45 pistol

Stars and Stripes ^ | August 18, 2012 | By MATTHEW STURDEVANT

[yarddog]

I agree with you.

The M1911 is my favorite pistol but I too think the Glock would be the better choice. It is just as reliable, holds a whole lot more rounds and fits the hands of more people than the Beretta which I also like.

[Joe 6-pack]

"What, so the trigger position would change between the first round and subsequent ones? DA/SA sucks."

Until you get a faulty, contaminated or waterlogged primer. 99 times out of 100 a second hammer strike is all that's needed to touch it off, and that's a lot quicker with a DA than an SA trigger.

Personally, I'm quite fond of my CZ75B, which has a double action trigger, but was designed to be carried cocked and locked, just like a 1911.

[Jack Hammer]

Good move.

[Hugin]

One criticism for the author: it was the Spanish-American War, not the "Philippine-American War."

Actually it was the "Phillipine Insurection". The Spanish American war was already over, and Spain had ceded the Phillipines to us. We were fighting Moro (Muslim) rebels.

[Hardraade]

Best gun ever made. My first gun from kidhood, before even the 22 :).

Hardly any sights and atrocious trigger. Still best.

[Spktyr]

As Browning and other experts then and now have noted, if you manage to get any of those conditions in military spec ammo, chances are that a restrike won’t fix the problem. Better to just discard the dud round and move on.

Note that most WW2 and later rifles have no restrike capability, either. And neither does a revolver unless you want to pull the trigger enough times to rotate the dud round into position again.

[mylife]

The CZ75B is a great pistol. 40S&W
Excellent.

[null and void]

The M1911 has a flawless pedigree. It was developed specifically to kill muslim fanatics who would survive .38s and go on to kill the shooter.

[Spktyr]

Due to EPA regulations, Glocks cannot be fully assembled in the US. The Tenifer finish is banned from being applied here.

[trisham]

" Better to fight for something than live for nothing."

~George S. Patton

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Thank you for your support!

[Free in Texas]

"DA/SA sucks."

Yes it do!

[Spktyr]

Also, you are aware that CZ offers a single action only trigger option and swap-in retrofit for older weapons on the 75, right? It’s so the weapon could compete with single actions in shooting contests where DA is a distinct disadvantage.

[omega4179]

I think my Glock21SF is technologically better than this 1911 in every way 13 shots & looks correct with a flashlight on it. This is a nostalgia choice 100%.

[Slump Tester]

So what makes it any better than the 1911? (Other than the $1875 price tag?)

[yarddog]

There is no doubt that the .45 is far superior to the old .38 Army round. The fact is the 9mm is also far superior to it.

That old .38 round was extremely weak with only 150 ft. lbs. of energy. The 9mm and .45 in military loadings are both in the 350 ft. lbs. range.

[mylife]

My CZ75 is DA/SA and both triggers are nice.

[Hardraade]

I’ve shot glocks. Lots of em. I don’t like them.

Even the nines aren’t such a pussycat to shoot as the 1911 45, or such a natural pointer.

[Little Bill]

When I was in AIT we had to qualify with the .45. One of the Troops asked the DI how effective it would be in VN?

The DI, a Korean War Vet, said “Fire off all of the Mag then throw it at them and run.”

I noticed shortly afterward that RTOs, Blooper Operators, and M60 Gunners who normally would have a .45 as a secondary weapon took the Sergeants advice.

[mylife]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_75

[Joe 6-pack]

"As Browning and other experts then and now have noted, if you manage to get any of those conditions in military spec ammo, chances are that a restrike won’t fix the problem. Better to just discard the dud round and move on... Note that most WW2 and later rifles have no restrike capability, either. And neither does a revolver unless you want to pull the trigger enough times to rotate the dud round into position again."

In as much as a pistol is primarily a short range, defensive weapon, just discarding the dud round is a (relatively) time consuming option, and even those well practiced in misfire drills are going to have their sight/target picture impeded by the drill. Me personally? I'd be more comfortable just pulling the trigger again. I've had three primer malfunctions in my life (one w/ handloads, two with factory). In every case, a second hammer strike has remedied the situation.

In traditional engagement ranges with rifles there is more time to clear the weapon, and while you would have to recycle a revolver to re-strike the dud round, all you have to do to fire the next round is pull the trigger again (presuming the dud wasn't the last round in the cylinder).

I'm not opposed to SA only pistols...indeed I've spent most of my morning replacing the shok-buff and doing some other minor maintenance on a Delta Elite, but when it come to my nightstand guardian, the CZ is my choice.