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Panetta: Afghanistan forces must be rigorously vetted
CNN ^ | 19 August 2012 | CNN Wire Staff

Posted on 08/19/2012 9:11:51 AM PDT by moonshot925

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta is urging Afghanistan to rigorously vet its security force recruits following a spate of attacks that has seen Afghan soldiers and police turn their weapons on NATO troops.

In a telephone call Saturday, Panetta encouraged President Hamid Karzai to work closely with the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan to counter such attacks, Pentagon spokesman George Little said in a written statement.

There have been a record 31 attacks on NATO forces by people wearing Afghan security force uniforms this year, the alliance's mission in Afghanistan says.

The attacks have resulted in the deaths of 39 NATO service members, according to NATO's International Security Assistance Force.

Three ISAF service members were killed Sunday, but not in a so-called green-on-blue attack. They died following an improvised explosive device attack in eastern Afghanistan, ISAF said.

The latest green-on-blue attacks took place Friday. An Afghan police officer opened fire on U.S. troops in Farah province, killing two, the same day that an Afghan soldier wounded two NATO service members and an Afghan security force member in Kandahar province.

Even as NATO has blamed the majority of attacks on personal grievances rather than an infiltration by insurgents, ISAF commanding Gen. John Allen has ordered all troops in the country to carry loaded weapons around the clock.

Panetta urged Karzai to work closely with Allen to strengthen ISAF-Afghan cooperation to counter the threat, "including augmented counterintelligence measures, even more rigorous vetting of Afghan recruits, and stepped up engagement with village elders, who often play a key role by vouching for Afghan security personnel," Little said.

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To: moonshot925
Now is not the time to leave.

I agree. The time to leave was years ago.

The U.S. has been actively involved in a military campaign in Afghanistan that has now dragged on longer than the U.S. Civil War and both World Wars -- combined.

Nobody even knows what the hell "victory" would even mean there. And since the most effective tactic to be used against Afghan forces who turn on U.S. soldiers is one that has already put one soldier in serious legal trouble (SSgt. Robert Bales), there's no justification for keeping any of these military personnel in harm's way over there.

21 posted on 08/19/2012 9:41:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: moonshot925
Leon "Stroke of the pen" Panetta the current Secretary of Defense and the one who 'outed' Dr. Shakil Afridi for his part in helping intelligence locate OBL. That good man is now in jail and put there by the flapping lips of Panetta, Obama, Clinton, and others who should have known better. For a nation the screams with abhorrence at the mere thought of 'water boarding' a prisoner, they threw Dr. Shakil Afridi to the worst of the worst for torture AND still giving AID through agencies like USAID to Pakistan. Another huge embarrassment for America.
22 posted on 08/19/2012 9:41:27 AM PDT by yoe (Vote for your Country, not a political party. or personal issues.)
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To: moonshot925

I hope we decamp tomorrow.

There isn’t a thing there worth another soldier or marine’s life.


23 posted on 08/19/2012 9:43:20 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: moonshot925
Gee leon, what ever made you come up with that brainstorm idea? Did going up against a dug in fanatic guerrilla force engaged in a sapper war for close to three decades in some of the most inhospitable territory known to man seem like a win-win situation to you? You can't bomb them back to the 9th century, because they already live there; you can't break their will or reason with them, because you can't convince fanatics; and can't isolate them because they're already isolated from the world in virtually all aspects. The only way you could keep them contained is just that; seal off the country from the rest of the world, and. Let them burn themselves out.
24 posted on 08/19/2012 9:46:28 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: sean327; Alberta's Child

We are still fighting the Taliban you know.

They are the enemy who hosted, sheltered and funded al-Qaeda.

If we leave now the Taliban could take over Afghanistan and give sanctuary to more terrorists.


25 posted on 08/19/2012 9:49:03 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: FreedomPoster

Karzai is Afghanistan’s version of someone once known as ‘Diem”. What did the US do with him?
We have played footsie long enough. Remove our troops to a location 100 miles out from any villages, and completely from Kabul. Let the JDAMS clear the territories, including all the infrastructures that we had built, in one night, at one time, so uncle Kabob cannot call nephew Hishsneesh. Then we depart the country.


26 posted on 08/19/2012 9:50:57 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Future Snake Eater; FreedomPoster; sean327; Alberta's Child

Look what happened when we left Vietnam in 1973.

The communists controlled the entire country 2 years later.

Millions of South Vietnamese were imprisoned, arrested, tortured, executed or sent to re-education camps by the communists.


27 posted on 08/19/2012 9:54:05 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925; All
We are still fighting the Taliban you know.

I guess you didn't get the memo...

White House Stands by Biden Statement That Taliban Isn't U.S. Enemy

28 posted on 08/19/2012 9:55:06 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: moonshot925
"If we leave now the Taliban could take over Afghanistan and give sanctuary to more terrorists."

LOL! Good one! I almost thought you were serious.

29 posted on 08/19/2012 10:04:15 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: moonshot925
Leaving after ten years is not a humiliation.

Staying in that hellhole for ten years is in no way cowardice.

You need to wrap your mind around a little bit of reality.

Afghanistan isn't a country it's an outlaw land and it has been for at least fifteen centuries. Its borders only exist because it is what's left over where the borders of other countries end. Countries that aren't too civilized themselves. The only way to remove the outlaws from Afghanistan is to kill every living thing there. Is that what we're about? Then what? Five years after that it will be re-populated by outlaws from surrounding lands.

The question is; what is 'victory' in Afghanistan? You haven't answered that because you can't.

30 posted on 08/19/2012 10:05:20 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: moonshot925

Panetta is a POS coward, who’s address should be ClubFed for treason. He is wholly incompetent and guilty of felony buffoonery.


31 posted on 08/19/2012 10:05:42 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: moonshot925
You're kind of making my point. This country was bankrupt and out of its collective minds by the time our involvement in that stupid war ended, with 58,000+ American lives lost and nothing to show for it. Sound familiar?

If you want to avoid a repeat of that in Afghanistan, I'll propose two simple measures.

1. Give every Afghan adult a modern, state-of-the-art weapon and a massive pile of ammunition.

2. Let them sort it out.

If it takes any more than that for Afghans to protect themselves, then there's really nothing that anyone can do without turning that entire country into a massive U.S. Indian reservation.

If they can't figure this out themselves, then we're wasting our time, money and lives.

32 posted on 08/19/2012 10:10:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: moonshot925

You mean like we did in Viet Nam?


33 posted on 08/19/2012 10:12:08 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: moonshot925
Except it's not Vietnam. These people don't care about freedom or much of anything else other than immediate family and Islam. We send units across many miles of terrain, over undeveloped roads (there's only one paved road in the entire country--the Soviets paved it) to get to villages since they're so spread out. The units go there, talk to the locals, get nothing helpful from them, try to do the whole "win hearts and minds" thing, then get blown up on their way back. Our people are killed and maimed. What was accomplished there? How is America better or safer by making a trip to a village, dropping some food, and talking to locals, then losing lives of our service members? The Taliban and AQ in general make a LOT of money off of opium. Why don't we burn the poppy fields? Why don't we starve them out? Why don't we actually fight them? Do you really think Romney will be any more decisive against the Taliban forces than Bush? He can't do much worse than Obama, but I doubt he'll be much better. Pakistan is a real threat, and we're going to ignore them since they're our "friends." Our forces are getting robbed blind as their equipment traverses Afghanistan into Pakistan and vice versa. This war is vastly more costly than most people know. The waste of lives and equipment is staggering, but so few people care because they equate it to some kind of schoolyard bully syndrome.

If we were to actually fight, sure, let's stay. But we have no intention of fighting, and conditions are getting much worse over there. The people know what's going on and they're going to side with the Taliban.

All we're doing now is sending men and women into a meat grinder for solely prideful purposes.

34 posted on 08/19/2012 10:12:49 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: moonshot925
Then irradiate the entire place from 30,000+ feet. That'll solve the problem.

No more Taliban. No more Afghanistan, either. No more threat to the U.S.

If this situation is as dire as you seem to think it is, then it is f#%&ing treason for the U.S. government to carry out this mission the way it has. And if it's not that dire, then there's no reason to be there.

It's no coincidence that the U.S. stopped winning wars when we stopped trying to win wars.

35 posted on 08/19/2012 10:13:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: moonshot925

They are as stone age savage and backwards as the day we went in. If we are there for a violent war mission, fine. But not 5 more years, or 5 more minutes to push the insane notion that they will ever be a free society. It isn’t worth a single life to do anything for those Afghans.
They are not my concern as a people beyond their military capability.

And the farce of our soldiers walking by opium fields under strict orders not to damage them, us giving them attack aircraft, us pretending that that they are ‘people’ in the same manner that we are is insane.

The only way we should be there is a absolute rulers, with no pretext of an Afghan government. Islam should be forbidden and eradicated. There is no other way to build a society there.


36 posted on 08/19/2012 10:18:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s why we should have stayed in Vietnam until the enemy was defeated.

Instead of running like cowards and letting millions die.

We were on the verge of victory anyway.


37 posted on 08/19/2012 10:27:49 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

In the end, it is not the troops who decide the outcome, it is the politicians.


38 posted on 08/19/2012 10:33:06 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: moonshot925

Omg, it would be humiliating. Then is your plan to stay there forever? Surely you don’t think they will ever be a society that reflects anything we would want. You cannot think they will not become a radical Islamic tribal state the minute we depart. We have already been there three times longer than we were in WWII, and are no closer to the goal.

Nation building there as long as Islam is permitted would be like trying the postwar occupation of Nazi Germany, but allowing the Nazi party to exist. Instead of murdering our very best kids with insane ROE that are pushed by our flag rank cowards, those kids should be here, having families, and being our neighbors, working with us, being teachers, cops, construction workers, and oil men.

We are wasting our best, for ungrateful people that are really more of a form of wildlife. We might as well try to teach dogs arithmetic.


39 posted on 08/19/2012 10:34:50 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: moonshot925
Look what happened when we left Vietnam in 1973. The communists controlled the entire country 2 years later.

There was and is no internal struggle for control of Afghanistan so that analogy fails completely.

Millions of South Vietnamese were imprisoned, arrested, tortured, executed or sent to re-education camps by the communists.

That won't happen because there is no internal struggle for control of Afghanistan.

40 posted on 08/19/2012 10:35:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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