We can’t just cut and run from a fight like cowards.
That would be humiliating.
Only a fool stays in a fight he has no chance of winning.
So what would you have us do? What is “victory”?
“We cant just cut and run from a fight like cowards.
That would be humiliating.”
What do we gain from remaining there? We gain absolutely nothing. We have hit every milestone we need to there. Nation Building is crap and will never work in a place that doesn’t want to join the civilized world. As I said before, there is nothing there that is worth one more American life. It’s time to bring our boys home.
Incredibly easy to say from your keyboard. Go over there, run the stupid missions while risking life and limb, potentially get killed by the police and military forces you’re training, THEN tell me about how cowardly and humiliating it is.
Screw those people.
You mean like we did in Viet Nam?
Omg, it would be humiliating. Then is your plan to stay there forever? Surely you don’t think they will ever be a society that reflects anything we would want. You cannot think they will not become a radical Islamic tribal state the minute we depart. We have already been there three times longer than we were in WWII, and are no closer to the goal.
Nation building there as long as Islam is permitted would be like trying the postwar occupation of Nazi Germany, but allowing the Nazi party to exist. Instead of murdering our very best kids with insane ROE that are pushed by our flag rank cowards, those kids should be here, having families, and being our neighbors, working with us, being teachers, cops, construction workers, and oil men.
We are wasting our best, for ungrateful people that are really more of a form of wildlife. We might as well try to teach dogs arithmetic.