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Missouri: Todd Akin’s ‘Legitimate Rape’ Comment Ignites Firestorm
Roll Call ^ | 8/19/12 | Meredith Shiner

Posted on 08/19/2012 6:57:25 PM PDT by randita

Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican nominee for Senate in Missouri, justified his opposition to all abortion, even in instances of rape, by saying that “legitimate rape” rarely leads to pregnancy — comments that have set off a media firestorm in an already contentious race.

In an interview with a St. Louis television station posted today, Akin said that female bodies “[have] ways to try to shut that whole thing down” and that only rapists, and not unborn children, should be punished.

“First of all, from what I understand from doctors, [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV, in an interview first reported nationally by Talking Points Memo. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

“Let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work, or something,” Akin continued. “I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child.”

Akin has since issued a statement saying he “misspoke” but did not reverse his position on abortion in the case of rape or incest, nor did he dispute the medical claims he made by citing doctors.

“It’s clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year. Those who perpetrate these crimes are the lowest of the low in our society and their victims will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve,” Akin said in the statement. “I recognize that abortion, and particularly in the case of rape, is a very emotionally charged issue. But I believe deeply in the protection of all life and I do not believe that harming another innocent victim is the right course of action. I also recognize that there are those who, like my opponent, support abortion and I understand I may not have their support in this election.”

Akin’s opponent, Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill, issued a statement calling Akin’s remarks incomprehensible and “offensive.”

“It is beyond comprehension that someone can be so ignorant about the emotional and physical trauma brought on by rape,” McCaskill said. “The ideas that Todd Akin has expressed about the serious crime of rape and the impact on its victims are offensive.”

Earlier this month, McCaskill and her Democratic allies spent more than $1 million in Missouri’s Republican primary, according to the Sunlight Foundation, trying to boost the conservative Akin, largely viewed as the most politically vulnerable candidate in a state primed for a GOP pickup.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
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This is highly offensive. I hope he steps down. We have to have this seat.
1 posted on 08/19/2012 6:57:29 PM PDT by randita
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; no dems; Kaslin; perfect_rovian_storm; ...

I can’t believe this!


2 posted on 08/19/2012 6:58:42 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: randita

He has to withdraw now.


3 posted on 08/19/2012 6:59:18 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: randita

Do you have someone ready to go who can take his place ???


4 posted on 08/19/2012 7:01:10 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: randita

5 posted on 08/19/2012 7:01:35 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: randita

what a fool.

how on earth do these idiots make it to public office?


6 posted on 08/19/2012 7:02:39 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: p. henry

I agree with you, he needs to drop out !!!!


7 posted on 08/19/2012 7:03:26 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: randita

Claire is going to use this to cover up all her failings and short comings. She will use this all the way to November.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 7:04:01 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: randita
Look at the bright side, this could have happened the end of October.

Now we will see the Obama Media trying to brand every Republican running for office with these ignorant comments.

Looks like quite the setup to me.

10 posted on 08/19/2012 7:05:12 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: randita

To everyone demanding that he step down and be replaced by someone else......is this even possible in Missouri?


11 posted on 08/19/2012 7:06:57 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Tennessee Nana

Sarah Steelman, whom Sarah Palin endorsed, would be my pick.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 7:08:07 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: Girlene

They have until Tuesday August 21, 5 pm CDT to make change.


13 posted on 08/19/2012 7:08:58 PM PDT by scbison
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To: GlockThe Vote

It was an idiotic thing to say. Why was he even talking about this issue rather than the economy, debt, deficit, Obamacare, and the fact Claire has been Obama’s biggest cheerleader all along the way?


14 posted on 08/19/2012 7:09:29 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Tzar

Only Democrats can misspeak, didn’t you get the memo?

The die is cast. If this idiot doesn’t disappear ASAP, he will drag down every other Republican running for Office.

Ignorance is curable, Stupidity is forever.
This guy is now immortal.


15 posted on 08/19/2012 7:10:26 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: randita

McCaskill spent a great deal of money to help Akin’s get the Republican nomination. It seems that she knows what she is doing.

McCaskill is a menace to the human race and would have a hard time winning a race for dog catcher. But, maybe all she needs is the Missouri Republican Party.


16 posted on 08/19/2012 7:10:26 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Moorings
This is a seat that we could have easily won. What was going through this guy's head?!!

Stay with the economy! Claire and her friends in the senate are trying to divert attention from the terrible economy.

17 posted on 08/19/2012 7:10:53 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: randita

What he said was correct it was just misspoke in phraseology. What he was saying was a real rape rather than statutory or fake rape the woman’s reproduction shuts down so pregnancy is rare. He should explain his statement.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 7:12:13 PM PDT by bray (The Gummit didn't make my business, God did!)
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To: randita
Just imagine if Sarah endorsed this guy, geez...
19 posted on 08/19/2012 7:12:47 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Thank God Sarah did NOT endorse him. She endorsed Sarah Steelman, people should have seen it as a warning sign that McCaskill wanted to run against Akin so badly, that would have been a HUGE red flag as far as I’m concerned. Dems always tell us who they are afraid of, and it seemed that they were NOT scared of Akin.
We have to get this seat back, if McCaskill wins the Dems can still maintain control of the Senate, we wouldn’t be able to repeal Obamacare.


20 posted on 08/19/2012 7:15:42 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: randita

The check from Soros must have cleared his bank account.


21 posted on 08/19/2012 7:16:36 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: randita; SpinnerWebb

Google Ann Richards / Clayton Williams if you want to see how this turns out.


22 posted on 08/19/2012 7:17:31 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: randita; SpinnerWebb

Google Ann Richards / Clayton Williams if you want to see how this turns out.


23 posted on 08/19/2012 7:18:04 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: bray
He could “explain his statement” until the end of time. Nobody, and I mean Nobody outside of FR would ever entertain your explanation as a reason to Vote for this guy.

Misspoke only works on the Left side of the street. I would assume as a Poster on FR you would know that as fact.

He had better get while the gettin’s good or Claire is a Senator until the day she dies.

24 posted on 08/19/2012 7:18:18 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: randita

I am so pleased that these idiots can’t wait to jump on any conservative for a badly worded expression. The Democrats have no problem doubling down on baby killing and all we hear is crickets. Clair and her minions will pump this for all it’s worth, but it still doesn’t change who Clair is nor does it give anybody reason to suck up to the democrats. Ya’ all just keep wearing those, our candidate must be perfect chains and the Dems will in deed have Ya’ all back in chains soon.


25 posted on 08/19/2012 7:20:26 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: randita

I am so pleased that these idiots can’t wait to jump on any conservative for a badly worded expression. The Democrats have no problem doubling down on baby killing and all we hear is crickets. Clair and her minions will pump this for all it’s worth, but it still doesn’t change who Clair is nor does it give anybody reason to suck up to the democrats. Ya’ all just keep wearing those, our candidate must be perfect chains and the Dems will in deed have Ya’ all back in chains soon.


26 posted on 08/19/2012 7:20:48 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: scbison

Thanks for the info. Not enough time, won’t happen.


27 posted on 08/19/2012 7:21:25 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: randita

MO GOP Primary Results
US Senate

Todd Akin 217,404 36.05%
John Brunner 180,788 29.98%
Sarah Steelman 176,127 29.20%


28 posted on 08/19/2012 7:21:59 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: KansasGirl

Of course there is a double standard but why give an issue tot the left?


29 posted on 08/19/2012 7:22:49 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: bray
“What he said was correct it was just misspoke in phraseology. “

No; he is an idiot to bring something like this up. It is offensive and ignorant. Guarantee if a family member of his had this happen; he wouldn't have spoken this way.

From a practical political point of view it's amazing stupid.

30 posted on 08/19/2012 7:23:22 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: scbison
"They have until Tuesday August 21, 5 pm CDT to make change."

In other words, less than 48 hours. And he's probably still in denial since he is, technically, correct. Although it's a terrible thing to say.

32 posted on 08/19/2012 7:24:04 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: randita

Ugh! Don’t know how this situation can be salvaged.


33 posted on 08/19/2012 7:25:02 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Steamburg

There are badly worded expressions (macaca, strategery, e.g.) and there are nuclear mushroom cloud worded expressions.

I would categorize this as one of the latter.


34 posted on 08/19/2012 7:25:35 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: randita

It was always extremely vexing the way the GOP would toss their own under the bus over the most minor, innocuous gaffes, as in the cases of George Allen (maccaca) and Trent Lott (the Thurmond comment). The GOP always folds like cowards the moment the scum in the media tried to do this, instead of fighting back. Always burns me up.

However, this comment by Aiken is really, REALLY awful. It’s already a wildly toxic thing to put the words “legitimate rape” together. That might constitute a gaffe, but it’s about as bad as a gaffe can be. But then, to add to it this: “if it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut the whole thing down” ... well, that’s ten times worse. An absolutely ghastly thing to say, especially politically. To many it carries the implication that a woman who is raped and a child conceived wasn’t actually a victim of a “legitimate rape.” Just sick. Even if Aiken likely just garbled his wording, what came out is just about as bad as it gets.

I don’t see how he can win. Not to mention, the Dems will be using this as effective ammo as part of their idiotic war-on-women theme, nationally. Damn, but I sure wish MO had taken Palin’s advice instead, and gone with Steelman! This is just putrid.


35 posted on 08/19/2012 7:29:23 PM PDT by greene66
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To: randita

He gave Claire the one soundbite she can use over and over again. She could not have asked for anything better.


36 posted on 08/19/2012 7:31:06 PM PDT by Moorings
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Not so fast.

According to women interviewed by David Reardon of the Elliot Institute for his book, Victims and Victors: Speaking Out About Their Pregnancies, Abortions, and Children Resulting from Sexual Assault, women who abort pregnancies caused by rape have a "more difficulty getting over the rape" than those women who carry the baby to term. The abortion is a second act of violence upon their bodies - one to which they, themselves, consent (unlike the rape).

It may take an ad featuring some of those women saying that about rape, but this could help expose another horrendous aspect of the abortion debate AND help Todd Akin win the Senate race in Missouri.

37 posted on 08/19/2012 7:34:29 PM PDT by Prov3456
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To: bray

I’ve heard that as well, for decades, from very legitimate sources. Not sure how true it is, but he should explain.


38 posted on 08/19/2012 7:34:49 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("When America ceases to be good, she'll cease to be great!” - de Tocqueville)
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To: Steamburg
In one cake walk Interview this Idiot manages to lose 50% of the Woman Vote (and probably more), while infecting other Republicans with his ignorance, and you blame Conservatives for deserting him?

Here's an update for you, FR Posters do not add up to one one hundredth of a percentage point of the Electorate. We here live Politics, discuss Politics, see the Media for what it is and we always look to the facts.

Most people do not do any of that. They believe what the Major News Outlets spoon feed them, day in and day out. How do you think this will turn out when the Democrat Media gasoline is poured on the fire?

39 posted on 08/19/2012 7:36:43 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: randita

This guy might be a moron, but his heart is in right place. Why punish the innocent baby for the crime of a rapist?


40 posted on 08/19/2012 7:40:04 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Steamburg

What you say may be true, but the fact remains there is a double-standard for how ‘gaffes’ are treated by the mainstream media. And like it or not, the mainstream media can still drive the narrative. Republicans can’t go around making it easy for the Left. And what Akin has done, with his stupid comments, is make it easy for the media to talk about this the entire coming week, and come back it as needed to ensure the reelection of McCaskill.

So this will be a lost week in the campaign, and most likely result in the reelection of a wretched, too-liberal-for-her-state Obama rubber stamp in a race the GOP should have won easily.

It may not be fair to Akin, but he will probably be this election’s Sharon Angle, where the GOP snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.


41 posted on 08/19/2012 7:40:04 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: randita

Join the bed wetters if you must, but a clear in your face attitude will end this in less than a news cycle. It’s time that our candidates own up to misstatements and then double down with a nasty retort. He can make Clair a baby killer and brand her with Obama’s late term abortions. The only people who will stay offended are those already in Clair’s camp. Treading lightly is what has cost conservatism in every election.


42 posted on 08/19/2012 7:40:18 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: tx_eggman

I remember the Clayton Williams situation quite vividly, here in Texas. That was the time the GOP was really starting to make some good inroads in TX, and I was all gung-ho for Williams, who seemed the kind of businessman/GOP candidate I would cotton to. Then he made that so-called “joke” about rape/weather. I lost all respect I had for him. I don’t find anything remotely humorous about rape, and it boggled my mind that anyone could. So I didn’t vote for him that election. Certainly didn’t vote for Ann Richards. Just left my ballot blank.


43 posted on 08/19/2012 7:42:32 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Tzar
>”It certainly doesn’t qualify as a career ender”<

If you're talking about Claire's career, you're probably right. This idiot just enhanced her Resume.

A Republican tapping his toes in the Restroom was a career ender, this is getting run out of town on a rail territory.

44 posted on 08/19/2012 7:44:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: randita

Akin would have won a landslide had he sat in his house for three months. Now if he doesn’t step aside we’re probably stuck with congress critter McCaskill for six more years.


45 posted on 08/19/2012 7:45:12 PM PDT by middlegeorgian
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To: sagar

Why? Because the majority favors exceptions for life of the mother, rape, and incest.

I agree it’s not a consistent pro-life position to favor exceptions for rape and incest, as the unborn is no less innocent, but people hold all sorts of inconsistent views. It’s not worth losing elections over.

Should Romney win, we can’t give him any excuse to nominate anyone to the Sup Court who isn’t a known and solid conservative jurist. Not having a Senate majority might be the excuse he needs. And Akin has just made it a lot harder to win the Senate.


46 posted on 08/19/2012 7:46:27 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: sagar

His Heart might be in the right place, but his Brain is obviously out to lunch.


47 posted on 08/19/2012 7:48:49 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: randita
...comments that have set off a media firestorm in an already contentious race.

There it is in black and white and people don't even recognize when they're being "played like a drum". Just dance as it's got a good beat.
KUDOS to Meredith Shiner for calling this exactly what it is.

Not one word on how this is going over in Missouri where this matters.

The media isn't even trying to prolong this. It's just a momentary media feeding frenzy and once the fuel is consumed this "media firestorm" dies.

48 posted on 08/19/2012 7:54:37 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: sagar

Akin should step aside immediately. The easy answer to this question is to say, “The banning of rape abortions will NEVER be an issue before Congress, and it’s not part of my campaign.”
To demand Akin’s ouster is not throwing him under the bus; he has already thrown himself in front of an Amtrak train, and there’s nothing left of him to save now. Bob


49 posted on 08/19/2012 7:58:26 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("You're a worn-out face in all the hang-out places where the lost souls congregate." Al Stewart)
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To: randita

“This is highly offensive. I hope he steps down. We have to have this seat.”
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What a bunch of weaklings we have in our midst. Ready to fold like cheap tents the first time the smallest zephyr comes through.

Akin misspoke and he has already quickly apologized. He meant to address the issue of pregnancies resulting from forced rapes as contrasted with pregnancies resulting from statutory (but “consensual”) rapes. Pregnancies from the former are relatively rare but from the latter not at all rare. He should stay away from the abortion issue as much as possible.

In any case, he needs to focus his campaign on economic issues and the McCaskill/Obama record of non accomplishment.

Unfortunately, his un-artful choice of subjects/words can be used against him if he and his campaign are not more careful. And they will be used against him not least by those in this forum who just may secretly hope that McCaskill is reelected. Come on folks, you know you’re here and we know (by their works ye shall know them) you’re here.

Let’s not join the liberals’, the mainstream media’s and their useful idiots’ lynching parties! Let’s not form into circular firing squads.


50 posted on 08/19/2012 7:58:44 PM PDT by House Atreides
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