Skip to comments.Say goodnight, Todd Akin
Posted on 08/19/2012 8:01:18 PM PDT by Arthurio
No wonder Missouri Senator Claire McCaskill wanted to run against Rep. Todd Akin, even investing in his GOP primary victory two weeks ago by spending $2 million on ads that described him as too conservative. Missouri Republicans saw that as a plus, just as shed hoped. But after his Sunday comment that legitimate rape rarely leads to pregnancy, even some in the GOP are calling for him to step aside.
The Republican lawmaker was trying to explain why he opposes abortion in cases of rape, but instead marched straight into the tar pits, where he will hopefully serve as a warning to future candidates that the reproductive info gleaned at summer camp may not hold up that well in TV interviews half a century hence.
Rape as a result of sex by force is really rare, Akin told KTVI-TV. If its a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
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His understanding of the reproductive process under extreme stress is irrelevant.
Likely his use of the word ‘legitimate’ is meant to say “that not falsely claimed”.
No one is going to stand up for this idiot.
Thank you, smart person. The one thing you mentioned (being on the right side of the second amendment) is standard for Republicans too...and it's the only conservative credential you attributed to Palin...and as such, the statement "other than being good on the second amendment, I just don't get it?" couldn't go by without refutation. You omitted scores of other obvious conservative positions she holds.
Thanks for playing.
This clown is unbelievable. Obama/Dems/Media have done everything they can to turn this election away from Obama’s record and the economy.
I can tell you that they’re liking this distraction quite a bit more than Romney’s tax returns.
Amen. And I prosecuted many a rape. And many a victim got pregnant. What Akin said is, in addition to just being stupid, factually wrong.
From what I am reading he has to withdraw, but I admit I haven’t read the statute, but that sounds accurate.
The other thing is Akin probably set the pro-Life movement back by about 30 years. Pro-Lifers should the people MOST upset at him, not the ones defending him.
This Guy needs to resign from Congress and check into the Mayo Clinic
This isn’t a gaffe. This is cruel and ignorant beyond the pale.
Walking it back ...
Its still idiotic, no matter how you define “legitimately”, this guy with one short phrase has opened up multiple avenues of attack to go after all GOP candidates with.
The attacks that you can be sure are coming are now that the
and however many more the leftwing media decides to pull out and splash all over the place. This guy upended the Romney campaign with his idiocy, its absolutely stunning at how poorly this guy spoke. He needs to step down immediately, let someone with common sense have a chance.
Will be calling tomorrow.
But there is NO WAY that a woman’s body has a defense against pregnancy - under any circumstances.
*THAT* was the incredibly stupid part.
Biden’s “chains” remarks will be all but forgotten.
Good going Akins you F’n Moron. You don't hand the enemy your Ammunition, you make them pay while they're trying to take it. This will be front and center until November.
Easy for you to say - you've already been born.
By what principle should a child be punished for the crime of his father?
Whether pregnancies occur in large or small numbers of rape cases is irrelevant to whether abortion should be legal for that specific purpose.
His political instincts sent him wandering into discussing statistics rather than simple declarative legal/not legal statements. Very poor judgment.
He will be a repeat offender.
Questionable vote vs guaranteed vote for Obamacare is a much better tradeoff. 6 more years of McCaskill isn’t going to make things any better.
Somebody who campaigned for Richard Nixon probably isn't the most credible voice to be calling for true Conservatism...
That “walkback” won’t even slow down the posse.
Romney just stepped in it....stated that a Romney-Ryan administration is not opposed to abortion in the case of rape.
So now Romney has put Ryan in a big ‘ole catholic sized pit.
And, of course, the newly minted VP-to-be is in no spot to contradict that.
What a freaking mess
What choice did they have? At this point, damage control is necessary because of this guy’s comments. All Republicans have to come out in opposition for him and basically exile him at this point so as not to be labeled by an over-aggressive left-wing media.
This is another example of why it pays to vet your candidate, don’t buy into a guy just because he promises he’s “good with God” or that he “loves the Constitution”....etc, if he’s an error-prone gaffe machine, he’s going to end up causing a lot of collateral damage which is exactly what Akin has done.
Putting out a statement on an issue that puts you on the same side as 80% of the public isn't exactly a political mis-step.
To justify an abortion, women can claim rape, though the act was consensual.
Pick a number, consensual versus actual rape, wag 100 to 1.
Is it just to terminate 99 because of 1?
Republicans ought to put some sort of gag order on any other similarly ignorant candidates they might have regarding rape and evolution to avoid possible future debacles like this.
Did this former engineer and father of six, who sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, just suggest that some rapes are not so legit?
How disingenuous. False allegations of rape are common, and the word is used to describe events that do not constitute felonious rape by any stretch of the imagination. It is perfectly reasonable and appropriate to distinguish between legitimate felonious rape and all the non-rape that is called rape.
Based on a 1996 study, (the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology) estimates that about 5 percent of rape victims of child-bearing age do become pregnant as a result, in some 32,000 cases a year.
Where is the comparable data for women who have had voluntary intercourse? Without that comparison, the Post has not disproved Akin's "the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." As usual, the Washington Post don't need no stinkin' proof, it just needs a Republican to slime.
I don't know whether or not Akin should step down. I do know that if you are a Republican running for office, you should NEVER hand ammunition like this to your political enemies. Before you are interviewed you should have already memorized short, reasonable, defensible answers to questions about extremely inflammatory issues such as abortion in cases of rape or incest. Since a minor misstep on such issues can cost you the election, choose your words VERY carefully.
thanks for the tip. never heard of this guy but this statement alone makes this guy trustworthy to me as a pro-life conservative. hope he’s smart enough to keep calm and carry on. as for his comment, actually it’s quite plausible. just ask all the couples who couldn’t get pregnant until they decided to adopt. it’s documented.
i just decided to add him to my personal pac. just sent him a check (akin.org).
It puts him in direct opposition with the catholic position....and Ryan is being presented as a faithful practicing catholic.
Akin is a freaking moron.
The “shutting down” thing may have been fuzzy thinking about how traumatic stress can affect the fertilization process. Of course it would be irrelevant if the only stress factor was the rape itself, because theoretically, the egg would already be there. Or, if it could be shown that stress induces a higher rate of miscarriage, then it could be argued he was referring to “natural” abortion. However, I have not found anything to confirm or deny this yet.
They could have made it more vague....they condemn the statement.
They disagree with it.
Of course rapes can, and do, result in pregnancy.
There is no “legitimate” rape.
But no....now they’ve pitted themselves against Ryan’s church.
Of course Catholics have the option of voting for Obama and supporting late-term abortions.........
As I'm sure you're aware most Catholics in this country pay very little attention to the official Catholic position on a variety of things.
You're correct that Akin is a moron for forcing Romney's hand in all of this and making it a campaign issue, but he has no rational political option but to make it the view of the campaign that he supports the rape/incest exception, given overwhelming public support for that position. Yes, it provides another media line of attack to pick away at Ryan but it's definitely the lesser of a lot of other problems.
“This whole thing will blow over by Tuesday and Akin will win by a large margin.”
Are you living in an alternate universe? Christmas just came on Aug 19th for the Democrats, and not just in Missouri. War on women anyone?
The GOP has to force him to step down, or the GOP will be tainted by this nationally.
Well sure, but that is besides the point.
Now the topic shifts away from Ryan’s strengths...the economy and medicare.
Now the wolves are going to swarm over this.
This is a MUCH better distraction than a squirrel - or a shiny object.
Oh boy! The GOP War on Women!
Sandra Fluke is getting ready for 15 more minutes!
You realize his comments basically stated that any woman who got pregnant as a result of rape wasn’t “actually” raped and that she was really asking for it.
You think the GOP had women issues previously? Wait until the media brings out the full court press on this nit-wit’s babbling.
Yep. Completely unforced error. This guy brought it on himself but his words will stretch well beyond “Missurah” borders.
After McCaskill put up ads supporting him, Missouri voters should have stopped to ponder why......now there’s a lot of people going “oh.”
I hope you’re right.
Time to call it a night. Maybe I’ll be less grumbly in the morning.
I can’t stand pro-death marxist democRATS.
But idiotic bumbling republicans get my dander up too!
I read his comment and I didn’t get that out of it. The focal point was that children of rape are 1) rare, and 2) undeserving of death for the misdeeds of one of their parents. He did choose weak language subject to severe spin. Otherwise, this is standard prolife positioning.
Sarah Palin endorsed Sarah Steelman in that primary. The MO GOP should`ve listened.
Obviously Todd Akin isn`t anywhere close to ready for prime time.
“It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, thats really rare, Mr. Akin said of pregnancies from rape. If its a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. “
Make no mistake, this is being seen as him saying that women who get pregnant and claim rape, really weren’t raped and are basically making it up.
This guy needs to go, and go soon so another candidate can step in and take on McCaskill, at this point Akin is dead in the water.
“But she’s a horrible RINO.”
This is the same song and dance as Nevada. Passing up on perfectly legitimate candidates for raving lunatics.
IF this is 'standard' prolife positioning, no wonder the lunatic liberals seem to always win the argument. AND no wonder the majority of women gravitate to liberalism. There is no such thing as 'legitimate rape'.
I’m sure most women would be keen to know that if they ever have to suffer the horror of being raped.......if they end up pregnant as a result of that rape, then they weren’t “actually raped” according to this guy.
Still shaking my head at this, how does a career politician make such a stupid statement in the first place?
I couldn’t agree more. As a pro lifer the only concievable abortion I can see is the ‘life of the mother’ situation.
Apparently "legitimate rape' is the 'standard' prolife position. And apparently all intelligent normal people with the command of the English language know that 'legitimate rape' really means 'forcible rape'... like rape needs an adjective to describe the act. I can't wait to have to explain his 'prolife' stance to my liberal family/friends.
I thought it was clear by now, at least on this thread, that his word choice was poor, but that by “legitimate” he just means “real” as opposed to “falsely claimed.” And yes, that does happen, and it would be tragic to end a life over a lie. I am sorry if that displeases you, but it is what it is. Murder is wrong, and no amount of after-the-fact sophistry will fix it. That is what it means to be prolife. Once conceived, always received. Do you have a problem with that?
He HAS to go but I expect he won't and that'll mean McCaskill rises from the politically dead and Dems get a lovely "war on women" soundbite to use nationally.
If the MO GOP aren't trying to push him out, head should role.
Anyone who doesn’t understand the severity of this is drinking too much Kool-Aid. Looking at it politically, this is a horrendous blow.
You’ve got a guy, competing against a woman nonetheless, who basically stated that a woman can’t get pregnant if she’s really raped and if a woman ended up claiming rape and getting pregnant, at best she was confused and at worst she was a lying whore who wanted it.
Well, you can be assured that the Democrat Party and the MSM will most certainly 'get that out of it', and they will try to crucify Republicans as a whole with it unless Akin is gone immediately. So think on that, instead of your personal interpretation.