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"Issues" or America? (Thomas Sowell on Obama)
Creators Syndicate ^ | August 21, 2012 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 08/20/2012 10:12:01 AM PDT by jazusamo

There are some very serious issues at stake in this year's election — so many that some people may not be able to see the forest for the trees. Individual issues are the trees, but the forest is the future of America as we have known it.

The America that has flourished for more than two centuries is being quietly but steadily dismantled by the Obama administration, during the process of dealing with particular issues.

For example, the merits or demerits of President Obama's recent executive order, suspending legal liability for young people who are here illegally, presumably as a result of being brought here as children by their parents, can be debated pro and con. But such a debate overlooks the much more fundamental undermining of the whole American system of Constitutional government.

The separation of powers into legislative, executive and judicial branches of government is at the heart of the Constitution of the United States — and the Constitution is at the heart of freedom for Americans.

No President of the United States is authorized to repeal parts of legislation passed by Congress. He may veto the whole legislation, but then Congress can override his veto if they have enough votes. Nevertheless, every President takes an oath to faithfully execute the laws that have been passed and sustained — not just the ones he happens to agree with.

If laws passed by the elected representatives of the people can be simply over-ruled unilaterally by whoever is in the White House, then we are no longer a free people, choosing what laws we want to live under.

When a President can ignore the plain language of duly passed laws, and substitute his own executive orders, then we no longer have "a government of laws, and not of men"...

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1 posted on 08/20/2012 10:12:14 AM PDT by jazusamo
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3 posted on 08/20/2012 10:17:33 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: RC2

You are a complete idiot for posting such a thing here.


4 posted on 08/20/2012 10:17:56 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

And just what did Dr. Sowell say about Onama that he’s wrong about?


5 posted on 08/20/2012 10:21:51 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; RC2

Here’s the rule. If you post things that are identical to what a Obama operative sleeper account would post to paint us all in a knuckle-dragging, racist, violent light, then it’s a dumb post.


6 posted on 08/20/2012 10:24:46 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: jazusamo

Sam_Paine is talking about RC2 not Sowell. Sowell is spot on again. good post.


7 posted on 08/20/2012 10:39:17 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: sam_paine

My idea was to have Congress go in and remove him for making up his own laws. What were you guys thinking?


8 posted on 08/20/2012 10:39:49 AM PDT by RC2 (Support the Wounded Warrior Project......please.)
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To: I got the rope; sam_paine

Yes, thanks. I finally relized it and sent FReepmail to Sam.


9 posted on 08/20/2012 10:41:52 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

First time here that someone (Sowell) has called it right. Deflection of blame, sleight of hand, distraction, minutae. Keep people dwelling on the small things, and distract them from looking at the big picture. Like squirrels attracted to shiny objects, people tend to get too absorbed in tiny details, not seeing the trap that awaits them. Keep people bickering and squabbling over issues planted by the enemy, to distract them from the wholesale destruction that the enemy is perpetrating in front of their very eyes. This is something the conservatives need to learn: don’t sweat the small stuff, focus on the bigger picture. The left knows you fall for this every time, and every time you fall for it. The left is succesful because they force a common message of unity upon their minions, they march in lock-step to whatever decree their leader issues. The right and conservatives are too easily fractured and splintered because of their inability to overcome and agree on any one small principle or are unwilling to go 90% of the way to defeat the enemy, and resolve their minor issues at a more suitable time and place. The other major problem is that the conservatives have to stop worrying about what the left thinks about them. I see it here all of the time, and I could care less what the left thinks about me. I’ve ripped devout democrats up one side and down the other, reducing them to babbling idiots. Their taunts and threats mean nothing to me, because I can throw it right back in their faces, and nothing will keep me from doing it. My advice to conservatives is to join forces, rip the leftists a new one, and take our country back. Anything less is mere posturing and surrender.


10 posted on 08/20/2012 10:44:38 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: jazusamo

Applause.

We must save ou country and vote out the Obamanation.


11 posted on 08/20/2012 11:20:33 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: jazusamo
Thank you!!! Sowell's wisdom: it is the essential principles underlying our liberty which this Administration consistently attacks, while it keeps "the People's focus on mere "issues." Sowell says:

"When we confine our debates to the merits or demerits of particular executive orders, we are tacitly accepting arbitrary rule. The Constitution of the United States cannot protect us unless we protect the Constitution. But, if we allow ourselves to get bogged down in the details of particular policies imposed by executive orders, and vote solely on that basis, then we have failed to protect the Constitution — and ourselves."

The underlined statement here is critical to our liberty, and we can refer to the closing paragraphs of Justice Story's "Commentaries on the Constitution . . . ." for the reliability of Sowell's claim, as well as countless statements from the Framers of our Constitution and other Justices. Examples:

" If these Commentaries shall but inspire in the rising generation a more ardent love of their country, an unquenchable thirst for liberty, and a profound reverence for the constitution and the Union, then they will have accomplished all, that their author ought to desire. Let the American youth never forget, that they possess a noble inheritance, bought by the toils, and sufferings, and blood of their ancestors; and capable, if wisely improved, and faithfully guarded, of transmitting to their latest posterity all the substantial blessings of fife, the peaceful enjoyment of liberty, property, religion, and independence. The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its compartments are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order; and its defences are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them." - Joseph Story -Final paragraph of "Commentaries . . . ."

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court even can do much to help it." - Judge Learned Hand

After Thomas Jefferson, in his First Inaugural, had enumerated the principles which would guide his Administration in his First Inaugural, he added:

"These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and the blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."

So-called "progressives" of the 20th and 21st Centuries, in their arrogance, have removed (censored) the Founders' ideas of liberty from America's textbooks, but technology has outstripped their efforts. Every American school child and adult now has potential access to almost every word the Founders spoke and wrote, and their ideas are being rediscovered and circulated in a manner unheard of even 10 years ago, as if by the hand of Divine Providence. How else can one account for the events of 2010?

Enduring principles, according to the Founders were just that--enduring and "self-evident."

Sowell's perceptive directing of our attention to principles, not the "issues" which dominate most political discussion, is a first step for citizens toward regaining the Constitution's own Article V provision--that "the People" are required in any process to fundamentally "transform" or "change" its protections for freedom. It is that freedom which is threatened when the "rule of law" is replaced by the "rule of man"--no matter who the man, or combination of men and women, are!

"The People" are, indeed, by the Constitution's own provisions, as Justice Story asserted, its "ONLY Keepers." Executive Orders by Presidents do not replace that "People's" role.

12 posted on 08/20/2012 11:21:12 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: jazusamo

No prob. I think we all recognize that there’s groups out there scanning FR just waiting to pounce on a questionable statement as proof of crazy tea party freaks. Even if it’s a misunderstanding, anything that can be used against us in this climate, of course, will!


13 posted on 08/20/2012 11:21:50 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: loveliberty2

Well said and thanks for your post.


14 posted on 08/20/2012 11:26:55 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: sam_paine

Totally agree and apologize for my silly mistake.


15 posted on 08/20/2012 11:28:30 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
If laws passed by the elected representatives of the people can be simply over-ruled unilaterally by whoever is in the White House, then we are no longer a free people, choosing what laws we want to live under.

We live in the Islamic States of Obama.

16 posted on 08/20/2012 11:41:39 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: jazusamo

“If laws passed by the elected representatives of the people can be simply over-ruled unilaterally by whoever is in the White House, then we are no longer a free people, choosing what laws we want to live under.

When a President can ignore the plain language of duly passed laws, and substitute his own executive orders, then we no longer have “a government of laws, and not of men” but a President ruling by decree, like the dictator in some banana republic.”

We are there.


17 posted on 08/20/2012 11:50:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: jazusamo

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security..."

-- The Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776



18 posted on 08/20/2012 11:52:14 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Sadly, yes we are.


19 posted on 08/20/2012 11:57:30 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: RC2
My idea was to have Congress go in and remove him for making up his own laws. What were you guys thinking?

Post #2 has been pulled, so I don't know what you said, but if you suggested removing Obama by any means other than impeachment you are fortunate you did not disappear along with your post.

20 posted on 08/20/2012 12:05:39 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: jazusamo

Obama’s beliefs and attitudes towards our Constitution and its subsequent laws can be summed up quite succinctly as follows:

Laws are for controlling the people, not for the government or its employees in their official duties.


21 posted on 08/20/2012 12:30:11 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: jazusamo

I also apologize if my statement was taken wrong. It was not meant as some read.


22 posted on 08/20/2012 12:40:16 PM PDT by RC2 (Support the Wounded Warrior Project......please.)
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To: factoryrat
The other major problem is that the conservatives have to stop worrying about what the left thinks about them. I see it here all of the time, and I could care less what the left thinks about me. I’ve ripped devout democrats up one side and down the other, reducing them to babbling idiots. Their taunts and threats mean nothing to me, because I can throw it right back in their faces, and nothing will keep me from doing it. My advice to conservatives is to join forces, rip the leftists a new one, and take our country back. Anything less is mere posturing and surrender.

Yes! If I see your flag flying, factoryrat, I'm heading over to join your forces. Your post indicates you are a strong leader.

23 posted on 08/20/2012 12:51:54 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: jazusamo; stephenjohnbanker
The separation of powers into legislative, executive and judicial branches of government is at the heart of the Constitution of the United States — and the Constitution is at the heart of freedom for Americans.

If laws passed by the elected representatives of the people can be simply over-ruled unilaterally by whoever is in the White House, then we are no longer a free people, choosing what laws we want to live under.

Excellent, spot-on piece by Dr. Sowell. Thanks for recommending it, sjb.

24 posted on 08/20/2012 12:55:48 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: loveliberty2; jazusamo
Outstanding post!

"The Constitution of the United States cannot protect us unless we protect the Constitution."

That was the money quote from Dr. Sowell's editorial. Too bad the nation and especially our so-called "leaders" failed so miserably in protecting our founding document from "Obama" when they allowed the coronation of this unvetted communist in 2008.

Thanks for the Ping, Jaz.

25 posted on 08/20/2012 1:15:33 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: jazusamo
No President of the United States is authorized to repeal parts of legislation passed by Congress. He may veto the whole legislation, but then Congress can override his veto if they have enough votes. Nevertheless, every President takes an oath to faithfully execute the laws that have been passed and sustained — not just the ones he happens to agree with.

If laws passed by the elected representatives of the people can be simply over-ruled unilaterally by whoever is in the White House, then we are no longer a free people, choosing what laws we want to live under.

Imagine the outrage by liberals if a conservative President opted to not enforce a variety of laws he didn't like - maybe not prosecuting thugs who beat up illegal immigrants "who don't belong here" , maybe other thugs stealing from welfare cheats, or someone who lost millions of dollars due to MF Global fraud deciding to get revenge by taking unlawful action against Jon Corzine.

Such actions might be justified as vigilante action to right wrongs ...but would create a lawless society.

But the ZERO has already created a lawless society, where Jon Corzine gets to keep money he stole, where New Black Panther party members can do voter intimidation at polls, and bankers can do illegal/unethical behaviour and not get prosecuted. We are doomed as a society if this isn't reversed! [Or we will need to revisit the Declaration Of Independence and take similar action against immoral "kings".)

26 posted on 08/20/2012 1:18:01 PM PDT by Vineyard
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To: jazusamo

Another good one from Dr. Sowell. Thanks for the ping jaz.


27 posted on 08/20/2012 1:50:13 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: jazusamo
>"every President takes an oath to faithfully execute the laws that have been passed and sustained "

MudSlimes are not bound to any oaths.

Taquiyaa, and Kahlua at the Bar.

Happy ramadumb infidels! What did you serve at your feast of ifatar dinner?

28 posted on 08/20/2012 2:03:38 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; jazusamo
The so-called "progressive" indoctrination of the nation's citizens took decades of censorship, refuting, and downright ignoring the principles stated in our Declaration of Independence and carried out in our Constitution's provisions for a strictly-limited, separated, divided, checked and balanced "People's" government to allow them their Creator-endowed, therefore unalienable, rights to life, liberty, and the individual "pursuit" of their own happiness!

They and their spokespersons called that Constitution a "living constitution," meaning, in their minds, that it was "malleable" by mere politicans, legoslators, and judges. Once they believed they had sufficiently dumbed down the citizenry, they introduced a bold personality who, himself, expressed an opinion that the document Sir William Gladstone called "the most wonderful work ever struck off at a given moment by the brain and purpose of man," is, in fact, "flawed," and, "a document of negative liberties.".

Others, more qualified and certainly wiser scholars of the Constitution, said these things about that Constitution:

"The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its components are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order...."
-Justice Joseph Story

In my previous post on this thread, are contained other statements of Justice Story about this priceless and historical American treasure--the Constitution.

Roger Sherman stated that as government is "instituted for those who live under it ... it ought, therefore, to be so constituted as not to be dangerous to liberty."

Justice Story's words pay tribute to the United States Constitution and its Framers. Shortly before the 100th year of the Constitution, in his "History of the United States of America," written in 1886, historian George Bancroft said:

"The Constitution is to the American people a possession for the ages."

He went on to say:

"In America, a new people had risen up without king, or princes, or nobles....By calm meditation and friendly councils they had prepared a constitution which, in the union of freedom with strength and order, excelled every one known before; and which secured itself against violence and revolution by providing a peaceful method for every needed reform. In the happy morning of their existence as one of the powers of the world, they had chosen Justice as their guide."

Roger Sherman stated that as government is "instituted for those who live under it ... it ought, therefore, to be so constituted as not to be dangerous to liberty."

As Jefferson wisely observed:

"History, by apprising the people of the past, will enable them to judge of the future; it will avail them of the experience of other times and other nations; it will qualify them as judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views."(Underlining added for emphasis) Now, in our dumbed-down state of understanding our liberty, we buy into "another" less-informed and truly dangerous opinion about the document which was to secure our liberty--an opinion from a small mind which has been molded and shaped by the same old tyrannical idea about government-over-people that prevailed in the Old World, before the flame of liberty began to inspire the oppressed to come to America.

Justice Story's words quoted above represent the first half of his statement. The "rest of the" statement included this grave warning for Americans of all centuries. He concluded his statement with these words:

"...and its defenses are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens."

Our constitution can be shared with the world and passed on to generations far distant if its formula is not altered in violation of principle through the neglect of its keepers - THE PEOPLE. Remember, the provisions of Article V still protect and require that right of "the People" to participate in any alterations or amendments to their document of liberty.

Some of the above is quoted, with permission, from "Our Ageless Constitution," W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part VII:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5


29 posted on 08/20/2012 2:47:29 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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30 posted on 08/20/2012 3:10:38 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

When a President can ignore the plain language of duly passed laws, and substitute his own executive orders, then we no longer have “a government of laws, and not of men”...>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And we have a fascist president.

Read it here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


31 posted on 08/20/2012 7:35:33 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: jazusamo

One of the best articles ever on FR. Dr. Sowell truly helps us to take a wider perspective about what it is that is so evil about the Obama administration.


32 posted on 08/21/2012 2:33:13 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: jazusamo

>> “you’re a complete idiot...”

I recognized the confusion upfront, but noticed you were still the gentleman despite the misunderstanding.


33 posted on 08/21/2012 2:48:37 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric
I really blew it on that one but I'll be more observant from now on. :-)
34 posted on 08/21/2012 9:12:17 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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