Skip to comments.Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race
Posted on 08/21/2012 10:40:56 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
Rep. Todd Akin, the embattled Senate candidate who used the phrase legitimate rape in talking about abortion and pregnancy, said Tuesday afternoon that he would stick to his decision to remain in the race.
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Why are so many of the criticisms against Akin nothing but rabid name calling?
Not sure if we were listening to the same interview. On both days he sounded awkward, mumbled and stumbled his way through, didn’t sound prepared at all, couldn’t answer basic questions, Hannity was basically pulling this guy around by the arm and he still couldn’t hang in there. He’s a joke.
It's to bad that he is not more artful in how he responds to loaded questions.
By staying in the race we probably lose the Senate seat in MO. If he is really looking at the big picture he would see that if obamacare is not repealed that not only will abortions increase in number, but that Christians will be forced to pay for them. I think he should step aside.
So, do you think God will damn one of the elect to hell?
I suspect that RW was using a common phrase without thinking about it.
” You realize of course that Todd Akin is a graduate of Covenant Theological, a major Reformation Seminary of the PCA. / So, do you think God will damn one of the elect to hell?”
Golly! Salvation by school name! THAT is as unique as Akin’s theory of rape...
It seems likely the guy is a Christian. And if stupidity was the unforgivable sin...well, there would be a lot of us in trouble! Still, we won’t know all the wheat vs tares until GOD separates them at the end. God, not the PCA.
Because when logic fails and you realize you’re dealing with a complete moron, sometimes the frustration gets the best of you.
No, what this man did is ruin any chance he has of winning this Senate seat and put in jeopardy every other Republican's chance of winning their elections this Fall. It's not a matter of being pro-life. It is a matter of saying something stupid and being totally and completely unprepared when facing the media. It is a matter of competence.
We still have the chance to get another pro-life candidate in the race. Otherwise, that Senate seat will be held by pro-abortion Claire McCaskill for another six years.
Not being in the room with him, a 2x4 upside his hollow head wasn't an option?
I understand the word perfectly.
What part of 'C O N J E C T U R E' do you not understand?
I don't think that's true of Akin at all. It was a stupid statement but he is not a stupid man. Is Rush stupid because he started the Sandra Fluke "slut" controversy? Everyone makes mistakes. Regardless, this is a democracy. Do you want the party elders selecting your candidates or the voters? The primary voters took a look at this guy and made a judgment based on far more than you or I know about him from one interview.
There are many pro-life web sites that state the same thing Akin said about rape and pregnancy. So this seems to be a common belief among some established pro-life groups. I simply don't know if it's true or not. But this is not something Akin made up. If pro-lifers don't agree with it there needs to be some clean-up in their own literature, which is most likely where Akin got the information.
So, it may come down to whether we are still a country of people who adhere to “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
Even in the face of 0bamascaretax, the Party of Death, and the 0bama/Soros-engineered attack on everything American.
Are we really “OK” with butchering babies? If so, who’s next?
The problems seems to be that Akin doesn’t think like the typical politician.
The problems seems to be that Akin doesnt think.
Then why did he win the primary? Doesn't that indicate that every other candidate was worse? We'd all like politicians who communicate as well as talk show hosts do. But those who can seem to prefer to make gobs of money as talk show hosts rather than run for office. Dole, Bush Jr., McCain and Romney were all pretty weak communicators. If you want to purge the weak communicators out of the Republican party, we've got a LOT more ground to cover than just Akin.
conjecture - n.
the belief that a person so boneheaded and so unprepared can overcome the stupidity emitted from that person’s mouth and somehow with no money can still pull off a victory in a US Senate race in 2012.
There are many think tanks on both sides that don't check their information thoroughly. Unfortunately for us, the vast majority of media workers are liberal, which means that only conservative mistakes of fact are ever called out. There's no point whining about it - it's just the way it is. We just have to be on our toes. Hopefully, what doesn't kill us will make us stronger.
Yeah that’s one thing I’m afraid of; even if Akin could recover from this inexplicably stupid comment, who is to say that he won’t say other stupid, self-destructive things before the election.
The guy just doesn’t seem very bright. Neither is McCaskill of course, but at least she’s figured out how to hand her opponent the rope with which to hang himself.
“This election is about the future of the United States of America.
What if, in God’s plan, they’re intertwined? I believe they are. “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” doesn’t differentiate according to subtleties.
The life of a baby. The life of our country. Neither is a throw-away. I don’t believe we can have one but not the other.
What I heard from him on the radio today says different.
Good stuff all. Thank you.
You said, at one point, “The problem here is not Akin opposing the rape exception, but bringing biological inaccuracies into an extremely explosive and emotional fight.” This may be the crux of the matter entirely, although no one, NO ONE, has said it. But it may be less inaccurate historically than it is today. All too unfortunately, he may be wrong about the “biological” figures today.
There can be no doubt that the feminist lobby, Rats, and most pubbies fear the attack on abortion like nothing else, and they’re going to defend that right to kill, uh, to the death. They’ve got their own “studies” and “polls” to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that killing a newborn is permitted, even preferable, if that newborn was conceived other than deliberately.
It’s certainly not surprising that someone here posted a piece on such “studies”—two on the incidence of pregnancy as a result of rape. 6% was one surmise. IF, and I seriously stress the word, this and another related study are factual (never mind complete—just factual), pregnancy-from-rape has indeed increased, because equally “scientific” studies released in the early 70s reported less than half a percent. It occured to me only this morning that both could be correct.
Rapes reported prior to the sexual revolution that resulted in pregnancies may well have been far fewer than those “legitimate” rape-claims today. The act itself, besides being unwanted and traumatic, was also utterly alien to most victims. The biological resistance to which Akin referred probably did exist. But frequent or even occasional sex is bound to reduce any perceived resistance-factor because the act, in an overwhelming number of cases, is no longer alien. This came home forcefully when I read in that same “studies” post that even contraceptive users succumbed to rape-pregnancies more often than consensual-pregnancies. If that’s true (and I tend to doubt it or the veracity of the control-group), the only reason I can see for their argument that pregnancy occurs more often with rape than with consensual sex is that contraceptive users, by definition, either have or expect to have more sexual encounters than non-users. Again, because the newness or alienation-factor is, in effect, turned off, the victim’s natural biological defenses are far less potent. It’s hard for some to remember, but part of the fear of rape wasn’t simply the invasion or the violence; it was also the fear of universally stigmatized, unwed or extra-marital pregnancy. That fear is almost entirely gone today. And whether that’s progress or not (in some ways it’s wonderful), it may have the unintended consequence of shutting down the body’s resistance.
Maybe you should get your head examined for mental behavioral patterns that fit the insanity profile.
It doesn't mean pregnancy can't happen, but it makes it difficult to happen.
Akin himself has written off his statements about this. He now says he was wrong. There is no special magic that makes a woman shut off pregnancy in cases of rape. A simple look at the history of rape in warfare alone is enough to debunk such a dopey claim.
If America were a democracy your rights could be taken away at whim by a majority vote of the populace.
A democracy is the very thing the Founding Fathers didn't establish.
Akin can really bring the RINOs out of the brush and into the open.
“If he is a moron, we need more morons in Congress. I hope he stays in the race as a matter of principle. He has the moral courage to buck the Establishment and be his own man. These are the kinds of people we need to lead this country.”
Exactly right. Akin needs our support. This follow the crowd mentality is not good.
I can't find any info on this. Link please?
It’s passed 5 in the central time zone and Akin made up his mind by staying in. The Rs will just have to deal with it and with their inabilities to cope and push back at the Dems, and quit barking at him.
Aren't you simply guessing at the outcome?
Or do you know the future with certainty?
I second your request for verification.
When politics gets thick, you can count on the truth getting trampled.
What an unbelievable group of half-wits on this thread.
How does it help the life cause if Claire never-saw-a fetus-she-didn’t-want-to-kill McCaskill gets six more years in the senate?
For an alleged "devout Christian" Akin is apparently unfamiliar with the sin of pride.
“You are absolutely right that there are local people in Missouri trying to convince Akin not to drop out. The concern is not that Akin did something smart his comment was really, really bad but rather that Akin supporters are not sure they can trust the Missouri Republican leadership to put up the kind of candidate who won in the primary.”
I am one of them. I have already donated to him and will so again since it looks like he is staying in the race. I voted for Steelman, but now I completely back Akin. IF for nothing more than he is a TRUE SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE (which is the MOST important consideration to me), and it is a way to stick a finger in the eye of the GOP establishment here in Missouri, that cannot be trusted.
Mike Huckabee, very significant figure in SOCON circles, is NOT throwing Akin under the buse. I’m sick of FR types, that don’t even reside in Missouri, making bold assertions about how Akin should drop out. THEY SHOULD GO POUND SAND.
My third priority on the three legs of conservatism is Fiscal...although I am fiscally conservative. However, after the disgusting nonsense the Tea Party Express pulled in regards to Akin....they are now my adversaries. They care primarily about the “almighty dollar” and that is NOT an acceptable definition of conservatism to me. NEVER put your wallet ahead of morality...NEVER. That is probably why they were ready to back Romney. The fools think the Magic Mormon can somehow salvage the economy...he won’t...plus he will probably do more damage to the morale social fabric of our sin diseased culture.
BTW - Excellent post!
PS - I used to like Rush, but have no use for him or Coulter anymore. They are fiscal conservatives and party loyalists....they are not Socially/morally conservative except when it suits other agendas. So, what the expatriot Rush thinks is actually irrelevant. I’m also starting to think Palin isn’t socially or morally conservative as I falsely assumed. She is too much a “Tea Party Fiscal Conservative.” That type of fiscal conservatism at the expense of morality is just plain wrong.
He is a typical politcian who puts themselves above any voters or cause.
What they haven’t learned yet—and neither has Rush or Hannity—is you don’t keep the narrative going.
As I’m sure you’ve recognized for at least as long as I have, creating a false narrative is the left’s favorite weapon. It’s what they’ve used to destroy our country.
Akin has chosen to ignore the false narrative, that’s all.
How can you tell it’s “about him” and not about the principles as Akin has stated?
You can’t tell.
Everything I’ve heard from and about Akin is consistent with standing for principle against the false narrative of the left.
When the left creates a false narrative like this it’s infuriating.
“the McCaskill campaign hasn’t even begun to use all the material they have on this guy.”
What else do they have on him?
“PS = pinging the site owner just because your guy and his satraps got a taste of the First Amendment is like being the annoying little girl in the first grade who is always tattling to the teacher.”
Since I haven’t joined Jim capitulation to the Romney dark side.....I doubt I’m in favor with him. I ping him to give him a chance to slap me down if he choses.
Oh yeh right -- she's credible.
She presents evidence (which is more than the Admin Moderator did in declaring the article "B.S."):
'most rapes occur in women under 25, and pre-pubescent girls, post-menopausal women and visibly pregnant women are statistically underrepresented among female rape victims, according to Gordon Gallup, an evolutionary psychologist at SUNY-Albany who wrote about rape-related pregnancy in The Oxford Handbook of Sexual Conflict in Humans.
'"Rapists don't pick victims at random," Gallup says. "Unbeknownst to them, rapists clearly target victims based on their likelihood of conception. They tend to preferentially target young, post-pubescent females that are in their reproductive prime."'
“Fine, if you Missourians wanna support this ignoramus and cost us the chance to take the senate then YOURE showing just how deluded and naive you are about how the REAL WORLD operates. And Id be willing to wager youll earn plenty of enmity here if that happens.”
NO, only Missourians can vote on this issue. IF you don’t like Akin...who is NOT dropping out because of grassroots support....then you can send McRascal a donation...Will that make you feel better.
The GOPe establishment FORCED Romney on REAL conservatives and you dipsticks tell us that we MUST support him because he won. Well guess what sparky. Akin WON the election in Missouri and he didn’t buy it like Romney did.
So, are you going to continue to diss Akin, or help him beat McRascal....the same choice you say exists in Romney verses Obama.
So, shut up already. He is staying in. Either support him, or risk losing to McRascal.
Not so nice having a choice you don’t like forced on you is it? However, please be as pragmatic as your ilk expects of supporting Romney...the Magic Mormon.
BTW - He may be running for U.S. Senate....but YOU CANNOT vote either way...because you ARE NOT a resident. So, once again, it really isn’t your business who the people of Missouri chose. We have gone with a SOCON...rather than a fiscal sell out.
Fiscal conservativism results in social conservatism. Remember, whatever you pay for you get more of and vice versa.
Fiscal conservativism results in social conservatism. Remember, whatever you pay for you get more of and vice versa.
This absolutely **MUST** be the last gaffe of this type.Can one put a little more pressure on the guy? Anyone standing up for life has a difficult road ahead of him. I hope parents in general are kinder to their children (adult or otherwise) who makes mistakes, than they have been to Todd Akin.
Because that is what we're talking about. When not if we fail to regain the Senate because of people like you, when not if we fail to repeal 0bamacare because of people like you, America is finished. Because once 0bamacare goes into effect, you can draw a straight line of inevitability to Single-Payer Healthcare and a one Party State. That means no chance to pass any kind of restriction on abortions, that means a Supreme Court which will not permit the slightest restriction on any kind of abortion even if we could get something passed, and that means that YOU and those like you WILL be forced to pay for abortions through the health care system. And that means MORE, not fewer, dead babies in the years ahead.
If you can accept having that on your conscience, I think you need to reexamine your alleged "faith." And good luck with telling God you thought the extra murders were part of His "plan."
So then, even though rapists are subconsciously obstetricians privy to their victims' ovulation schedules, they are still only impregnating 1% of their victims. All that subconscious advantage over couples not trying to get pregnant, and that's the best they can do???
Ding-Ding! You win ZC!
Disagree with the Narrative the Liberals have set and the Republicans will freak the hell out.
Its like asking "When did you stop beating your wife?" and the Republicans fall for it EVERY-SINGLE-TIME. Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football.
At a certain point we're going to have to realize that the flawless, perfect conservative candidate that the lib media will accept doesn't and never will exist!
Which is why Sarah Palin needs to be run out the GOP on a rail, she has too many flaws!!@! We need to have Cute, Huggable, Loveable Moderates like Willard, John McCain and Jon Huntsman, They NEVER lose!/Sarc
Let the guy win or lose on his own but attaching the whole party to the issue was an incredibly stupid move on the part of the GOP.