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Obama to Assad: Using Chemical Weapons is a Red Line
Arutz Sheva ^ | 21/8/12 | Elad Benari

Posted on 08/21/2012 2:28:21 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

U.S. President Barack Obama issued a direct warning to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Monday, saying he should heed U.S. warnings to neither use nor move chemical or biological weapons, CNN reported.

“We cannot have a situation where chemical or biological weapons are falling into the hands of the wrong people,” Obama told reporters at the White House. "We have been very clear to the Assad regime -- but also to other players on the ground -- that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized.”

He added, “That would change my calculus; that would change my equation.”

Obama said that U.S. officials are monitoring the situation "very carefully" and have put together a number of contingency plans.

“We have communicated in no uncertain terms with every player in the region that that's a red line for us and that there would be enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front or the use of chemical weapons,” CNN quoted him as having said.

Obama's remarks come after he said last month that the Syrian leadership “will be held accountable by the international community and the United States should they make the tragic mistake of using those weapons.”

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; lebanon; obama; redline; srael; syria; waronterror; wmd
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Give 'em to Hizbollah. We won't hold them accountable.
1 posted on 08/21/2012 2:28:25 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5
“We cannot have a situation where chemical or biological weapons are falling into the hands of the wrong people,” Obama told reporters at the White House.

It's okay under Dubya's watch but by Ala, NOT under MY watch!!!!

2 posted on 08/21/2012 2:31:57 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Eleutheria5
Don't cross O'Rambo!


3 posted on 08/21/2012 2:33:22 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Eleutheria5

We should anticipate some sort of action with concern about this issue on or about any day in October of this year.


4 posted on 08/21/2012 2:34:35 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Eleutheria5
He added, “That would change my calculus; that would change my equation.” WTF does this mean???
5 posted on 08/21/2012 2:35:00 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Eleutheria5
“We have communicated in no uncertain terms with every player in the region that that's a red line for us and that there would be enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front or the use of chemical weapons,” CNN quoted him as having said.

Not by the hair of his chinny chin chin?

6 posted on 08/21/2012 2:36:55 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Eleutheria5

I’m sure Assad is REEEEaly scared of Obozo.


7 posted on 08/21/2012 2:41:39 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: EGPWS

Loser doesn’t have hair on his chinny chin chin...


8 posted on 08/21/2012 2:45:48 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Eleutheria5

It was this moron’s buddies who gave Bush crap for years, because no weapons of mass destruction were found. Not once did they admit those weapons could have been moved to Syria, despite reports of large convoys headed in Syria’s direction.

Now he says he is worried about WMDs getting into the wrong hands. No he isn’t. It’s just now politically expedient to pretend that he is.

The Democrats for years pretended that they thought the full extent of Iraq’s chemical weapons were exhausted on the Kurds. Not once did they admit, it was highly likely that Hussein had more chemicals stashed away.

From Obama on down, the Democrat is a party of frauds.


9 posted on 08/21/2012 2:45:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Eleutheria5

"Would it make you feel any better, little girl, if they was pushed out of windows?"

10 posted on 08/21/2012 2:48:59 PM PDT by WSGilcrest (/s)
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To: Eleutheria5

Sure, use and chemical or biological weapons and somebody may look to see where they came from.


11 posted on 08/21/2012 2:56:50 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Eleutheria5

August-September-October Surprise


12 posted on 08/21/2012 3:02:52 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Eleutheria5

Obama is gearing up to wag the dog.


13 posted on 08/21/2012 3:04:41 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: DoughtyOne

What happens if the Palestinians in Gaza start shooting rockets with chemical warheads, courtesy of Syria?


14 posted on 08/21/2012 3:09:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: Eleutheria5

To Obama’s credit, he made it clear that any attempt to “move” chem weapons, is a Red Line.

It really means, “we’re watching, so don’t go near them!”

Let’s hope that he has authorized Panetta to make good on that threat, and he won’t let Val veto that decision.

Let’s hope Putin is also ensuring containment.


15 posted on 08/21/2012 3:09:20 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Red is Zero’s favorite color.

Thanks Eleutheria5.


16 posted on 08/21/2012 3:21:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Assad can laugh at Obama by stating one thing.

“We will never move or use OUR WMD’s. We are going to use the ones that Saddam sent to us in 2002.”

Now that would be a kick in the teeth.


17 posted on 08/21/2012 3:30:04 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Eleutheria5

IMO, government leaders will continue to talk about Syria.


18 posted on 08/21/2012 3:30:52 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: illiac

-——He added, “That would change my calculus; that would change my equation.” WTF does this mean??? -——

I thought it was a strange as well.....considering we barely know nothing of Obamas mind on the subject of Syria ....

I think he means that the use of chemical or bio weapons by Assad would tip some sort of long range goal forward to quickly and screw up his time table of black mailing Israel into a two state solution on hamaz terms...

But who knows what evil manipulations Obama has up his greasy sleeve ?


19 posted on 08/21/2012 3:34:51 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: DoughtyOne

The truth is, chemical weapons are not the big deal. Many insecticides have the same antidote for exposure as nerve gas: atropine. Mix ammonia and chlorine bleach together, and you have a deadly chemical used in the trenches of WW I. Castor beans can be made into a deadly poison. Anyone with a little bit of knowledge and equipment can make chemical weapons. Bio weapons are much more dangerous, and atomic, of course, is the real money maker.

But does the US or the UN really have tabs on all of Assad’s chemical and bio stockpiles, including those gotten from Iraq? Don’t bet on it, even on paper. They can move whatever they want wherever they want, because nobody knows about a lot of it, except of course Assad.


20 posted on 08/21/2012 3:36:59 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

“Enoormous consequences” - “I may have to drop golf that weekend if you start using whole bunches of these things without giving them to Nasrallah or the Brotherhood”.


21 posted on 08/21/2012 3:38:12 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: illiac

*I* am the operator of my pocket calculator.

Boy is planning his next WH concert.


22 posted on 08/21/2012 3:40:43 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Iron Munro

He used to be called Jack Kelly. But then a drug cartel got ahold of his girl friend the ex-junky prostitute and tortured her to death. He found them and killed them all, but he had to change his name, his face and get a new girlfriend, Michelle. Now he’s The Man Without Remorse, or at least The Man Without a Long-form Birth Certificate.


23 posted on 08/21/2012 3:41:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: illiac

Strafe all the civilians you want (they’re always guilty of something), but use any mustard gas and I’ll...I’ll...I’ll...do something.


24 posted on 08/21/2012 3:42:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: G Larry

“Let’s hope Putin is also ensuring containment.”

Da. No worries, American buddy. I keep my eyes on them (damn. Dropped a kopek. Where is it? [two hours later]) Not see anything happen. All kopasetiksky.


25 posted on 08/21/2012 3:46:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Gawrsh. Where’d those come from?


26 posted on 08/21/2012 3:47:47 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: illiac

obviously he intends to nuke Damascus.


27 posted on 08/21/2012 3:51:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: illiac

He added, “That would change my calculus; that would change my equation.” WTF does this mean??? Maybe he will have to switch to playing golf at Andrews AFB on Saturday and Ft. Belvoir on Sunday.


28 posted on 08/21/2012 4:03:56 PM PDT by TBall
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To: EQAndyBuzz

:’) Assad won’t be the one using them.


29 posted on 08/21/2012 4:14:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Eleutheria5; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Take about a load... of horse hockey--

According to this new Plan 'R' if Romney & Ryan wins the election... Obama considers them the 'wrong hands' and we are to attack all the Red States.

30 posted on 08/21/2012 4:26:09 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: illiac; Eleutheria5
He added, “That would change my calculus; that would change my equation.” WTF does this mean??? I thought that was a strange statement as well...
31 posted on 08/21/2012 4:27:09 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: Eleutheria5

You may have missed my point.
We’re NOT depending on Putin to do our job for us, we’re just hoping he recognizes that it is in his interest to keep a lid on Chem weapons, too!

It would help if we and they BOTH told Syria’s factions that any trafic in the vicinity of the Chem weapons, would be grounds for blasting either faction.


32 posted on 08/21/2012 4:28:38 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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Russia warns West on Syria after Obama threats
August 21, 2012 08:23 PM
By Steve Gutterman , Thomas Grove
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2012/Aug-21/185235-rebels-claim-control-of-two-thirds-of-aleppo-regime-denies.ashx

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned the West on Tuesday against unilateral action on Syria a day after President Barack Obama said U.S. forces could intervene if his Syrian counterpart deployed chemical weapons against rebels trying to topple him.


33 posted on 08/21/2012 4:38:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Eleutheria5

“Just keep on killing your own countrymen with conventional munitions until after our election, okay buddy?”


34 posted on 08/21/2012 5:18:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: illiac
He added, “That would change my calculus; that would change my equation.” WTF does this mean???

Think it is safe to say that Obama has never solved a complex calculus equation his entire life. For starters, his statement clearly defines that Chemical WMD use by Syria was not in his original calculus equation (ie - the Pentagon plan he picked). Which was obvious when they were thinking of supporting a Turkish invasion of Syria due to the loss of a Turkish plane. That was just plain stupid. Now if Assad's WMD had been in his original equation, it would have been a variable or a function within the overall equation.

If he had formulated his original calculus equation correctly with all the known and relevant variables and functions, the Syrian situation would not be the clusterpuck that is has become.

35 posted on 08/21/2012 5:43:21 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: PapaBear3625

Look, I think you ask this as a reaction to my comments. I don’t approve of Syria passing on WMDs, but I have absolutely no trust whatsoever that this president is acting on behalf of Israel’s safety.

I don’t want chemical weapons used against Israel. I don’t want there to be a massive weapons cache in Southern Lebanon either. I haven’t cared for Syria’s massing of troops in the region down near Israel, and moving them away, then back, then away again.

None of this has been addressed by Bush or Obama. Bush did take down the leadership of Iraq which was flouting the stability of the region I think there’s a better than even chance Syria got WMDs. That was not addressed then, and hasn’t been since.

Israel is already under the gun. And yet Obama and others, still try to pressure Israel into making concessions.

Well, I’m just not buying what this clown is selling.


36 posted on 08/21/2012 5:55:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: illiac

It’s all about him donchaknow?


37 posted on 08/21/2012 5:58:37 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: EGPWS

I’ll wager in the week before the election.


38 posted on 08/21/2012 6:00:50 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Eleutheria5

Well..., I do agree with you in part, but chemical weapons are a big deal. The fact that you can counteract the chemicals, IF YOU KNOW WHICH ONES YOU’VE BEEN HIT WITH, is not an optimal circumstance. I’m sure you agree with that.

As for whether they have the munitions under control, there’s no way they could. These guys toss a few containers in the back of a truck and they are transported along with chickens or whatever else they are moving.

How do you keep track of that? Well, you don’t.

We agree on that. We probably agree that these agents are more than likely already in Southern Lebanon, and perhaps on the West Bank and Gaza too.

If those chemicals get introduced into Israel, Israel will take out Syrian leadership and set off a fuse [just flowery descriptive prose here] that will blow up a strip about to to five miles wide across Southern Lebanon.


39 posted on 08/21/2012 6:21:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Whoa, hold the phone. For years we were told while Bush was in office that there were no chemical or biological weapons in the Middle East.

Now suddenly, Syria has some that Obammie is calling them out on? How did these magically appear in the hands of a crazy? Perhaps, just perhaps they were there all along, and it now fits the agenda of Obammie to tell all and to make him look strong and powerful to keep him in the White House.


40 posted on 08/21/2012 7:50:28 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Our military does not kill babies, those that commit abortion kill babies.)
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To: illiac

What it means is that mac daddy is already preparing a strongly worded e-mail with all cap and in bold letters telling him how mad he is and if he does not stop mac daddy will throw himself on the floor, kick his feet and scream like a spoiled brat for not getting his way.

There that should put the fear in him, time to tee off.


41 posted on 08/21/2012 9:11:18 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: DoughtyOne

Agree with all said.


42 posted on 08/22/2012 1:20:40 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: G Larry

That’ll sure happen./sarc


43 posted on 08/22/2012 1:23:48 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: DoughtyOne
What my point is, is that the various Muslim powers are pushing Israel into thinking they need to take dramatic action, on the order of Deuteronomy 20:16, in order to survive.

Perhaps Israel could adopt a policy of assassination of the more outspoken clerics and political leaders, plus the wealthy Arabs that finance the radicals?

44 posted on 08/22/2012 6:25:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Thank you. Take care...


45 posted on 08/22/2012 8:15:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: PapaBear3625

There’s a lot of turmoil in the region. Some government/political leaders feel compelled to go on the record in opposition to Israel, to curry favor with radicals. Other leaders religious in nature, think there is a green light to capitalize on old Jewish/Israeli hatreds.

I don’t see evidence that these loud mouthed political leaders are massing troops on Israel’s borders. They’re almost almost all just shooting off their mouths.

It’s not a good time for enhanced Israeli regional image, that’s certain. I’m not sure how much it really changes things. These people have been steeped in anti-Israeli rhetoric their entire lives.

So what does Israel do? Does it pretty much think of it as business as usual, which it pretty much is? Does it think of it as something new and take drastic action to eliminate it?

I fully support Israel taking out Iran’s nuclear capabilities, if it can. In the absence of the U. S. taking action, ‘someone’ has to. As for taking out regional loudmouths, I’m not convinced that helps matters.

Loudmouths are pretty much forgotten in short order. Martyrs aren’t.


46 posted on 08/22/2012 8:41:18 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: DoughtyOne

There are indeed more Egyptian troops and armor in the Sinai than any time since 1973. That’s more than the usual loudmouths. Assad’s regime is fighting for its life, one of the ways to win would be to attack Israel, or sucker Israel into attacking Syria. Iran is doing more than shooting of its mouth. I’d say it’s not business as usual, but initiating overt war would be a bad mistake, unless it involves an immediate and drastic degradation of Iran’s nuclear capabilities. We need an increased covert war, which brings us to assassination of radical clerics (previous post)? We’ll get some sharks and wild pigs right on it, maybe a few trained snakes and ravens, too.


47 posted on 08/22/2012 10:13:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Iran is almost laughable. They are trying to curry favor with Arabs across the Middle-East. At the same time, they are alarming other governments across the same region. When haven’t they spewed against Israel? As a result, you’ve got governments in the region considering giving the U. S. or Israel transit rights. They won’t do it publicly, but I’ll guarantee you Saudi Arabia will not tolerate a nuclear armed Iran.

Syria is desperate. Sure they may try to pull something against Israel. What’s that going to result in? It will result in the leadership of Syria being removed, and Syrian insurgents being successful. That looks an awful lot like Syrian leadership lose/lose to me.

Egypt’s tanks can be taken out in short order. If they move closer than that thirty mile perimeter, that’s what will happen.

So yes, things are ratcheted up in the region. Israel has been here before.

Is military action imminent? I’m not convinced of that at all.


48 posted on 08/22/2012 10:47:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Imminent, no. Highly likely, yes. I wish I shared your optimism about Egypt and Syria, or your assurance that Arabs will do what is rational. They are, on the one hand, thoroughly opportunistic and Macheiavellian to the umpteenth degree. That’s their good point, such as it is. On the other hand, if they’re riled up enough, they are highly prone towards wildly irrational violence.

The MB exists to rile up Muslims. It was founded by a Muslim who got real upset because there were dancing girls shaking their fannies at a British military canteen. It has been inciting pogroms, riots and wars ever since.

It’s now in power in several countries, most notably Egypt, our neighbor, which now has tanks in the Sinai. If Egypt should decide, in a state of religious exuberance following a particularly gory Copt crucifixion, to go to war with Israel, it is dead certainty that Basher Assad will join in, and Saudia’s informal agreement to not look up while Israeli planes are flying to Iran will be in abeyance. To permit it then would cause the King to lose face, you see. For the UN Security Council (which normally can’t agree on the color of s@#%) to fail to pass a resolution condemning the raid would then be unthinkable, perhaps this time with real sanctions to back them up.

It’s all very well to speak of a quick victory by Israel and the collapse of Assad’s regime, thereby fracturing Syria’s alliance with the Shiites in Lebanon and Iran. That’s what the news that happens on TV will talk about.

But I have a nephew in the IDF (I’m his sandek, which is sort of like a godfather), plus my good friends who immigrated from India at the same time we came from America have their only son in uniform now. My son’s tutor from last year is also wearing green and carrying heat. Even quick victories can have some highly personal consequences. Every time I see infants like them strutting down the street with their guns, packs and walky talkies, the prospect of war becomes ever more painful.

I live in Judah and Samaria. The Left would love to bulldoze the lot of us and send us packing. They may get their wish, even if we beat Egypt and Syria yet again, and bomb Iran. Perhaps especially then.

Hopefully an angel will appear from on high and stay the hand of somebody or other from sacrificing these modern-day Isaacs on this unworthy altar. But I doubt it.


49 posted on 08/22/2012 3:00:46 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Imminent, no. Highly likely, yes. I wish I shared your optimism about Egypt and Syria, or your assurance that Arabs will do what is rational. They are, on the one hand, thoroughly opportunistic and Macheiavellian to the umpteenth degree. That’s their good point, such as it is. On the other hand, if they’re riled up enough, they are highly prone towards wildly irrational violence.

The MB exists to rile up Muslims. It was founded by a Muslim who got real upset because there were dancing girls shaking their fannies at a British military canteen. It has been inciting pogroms, riots and wars ever since.

It’s now in power in several countries, most notably Egypt, our neighbor, which now has tanks in the Sinai. If Egypt should decide, in a state of religious exuberance following a particularly gory Copt crucifixion, to go to war with Israel, it is dead certainty that Basher Assad will join in, and Saudia’s informal agreement to not look up while Israeli planes are flying to Iran will be in abeyance. To permit it then would cause the King to lose face, you see. For the UN Security Council (which normally can’t agree on the color of s@#%) to fail to pass a resolution condemning the raid would then be unthinkable, perhaps this time with real sanctions to back them up.

It’s all very well to speak of a quick victory by Israel and the collapse of Assad’s regime, thereby fracturing Syria’s alliance with the Shiites in Lebanon and Iran. That’s what the news that happens on TV will talk about.

But I have a nephew in the IDF (I’m his sandek, which is sort of like a godfather), plus my good friends who immigrated from India at the same time we came from America have their only son in uniform now. My son’s tutor from last year is also wearing green and carrying heat. Even quick victories can have some highly personal consequences. Every time I see infants like them strutting down the street with their guns, packs and walky talkies, the prospect of war becomes ever more painful.

I live in Judah and Samaria. The Left would love to bulldoze the lot of us and send us packing. They may get their wish, even if we beat Egypt and Syria yet again, and bomb Iran. Perhaps especially then.

Hopefully an angel will appear from on high and stay the hand of somebody or other from sacrificing these modern-day Isaacs on this unworthy altar. But I doubt it.


50 posted on 08/22/2012 3:19:33 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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