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Todd Akin: When Dumb Talk Is Inevitable
Real Clear Politics ^ | August 21, 2012 | Debra Saunders

Posted on 08/21/2012 4:25:15 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

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To: Longbow1969

Listen Longbow, Christianity is about light and life. we are sacrificing babies, what kind of monsters does that make us?


51 posted on 08/21/2012 6:22:50 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: skeeter

His attempt to arrogantly lecture the audience through a TV reporter allowed him to choose contemptuous language to try and brush off the issue of abortion in instances of rape and incest. This is a complex issue a theology essay of five thousand words can barely address and he trys to dismiss it with anecdotal pseudo-science using creepy phrasing.

Intelligent candidates — hell, even candidates with low IQs — know the importance of staying on message and talking toward what the election is about for the voters.

But Akin was not focused on the broad conservative sea-change and fiscal responsibility to dump an agenda headed by a Marxist. Instead, he was focused on single-issue agenda points of the right-to-life groups and did so in a manner that caused good conservvatives, that hate Roe v. Wade and all it stands for, to smack their foreheads, declare “epic fail” and ask themselves how they can vote for someone this dumbly arrogant.


52 posted on 08/21/2012 6:23:38 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

“The single issue voters who are the problem are the ones who vote against the guy for the single issue that he said something stupid.”

amen


53 posted on 08/21/2012 6:24:54 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: KC Burke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c


54 posted on 08/21/2012 6:27:04 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 4Liberty

“Akins is also implying women who miscarry “probably stopped that thing” subconsciously due to a desire to not have the child.”

Aw give it a rest, you are implying you are a self righteous know it all


55 posted on 08/21/2012 6:28:15 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: All

Let’s cut back on the personal stuff. This topic is raw enough as it is.


58 posted on 08/21/2012 6:33:40 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: JediJones

There are a lot of Missourians, Democrats included, that are pissed off enough at the national GOP for what they are doing to Akin that they will cross over and vote him in the general just to stick it to the GOP elitists knowing that Akin will stand up to them in Washington like he did here.


59 posted on 08/21/2012 6:35:12 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Callahan
Akin sounds like a guy who has spent alot of time living in an Evangelical Christian bubble

Better that than growing up in the dog-eating, prayer-calling lands of Muhammed that Obama did.

60 posted on 08/21/2012 6:39:16 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Uncle Chip
There are a lot of Missourians, Democrats included, that are pissed off enough at the national GOP for what they are doing to Akin that they will cross over and vote him in the general just to stick it to the GOP elitists knowing that Akin will stand up to them in Washington like he did here.

Is that you Todd Akin? How about you provide evidence for your claims.

61 posted on 08/21/2012 6:39:58 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

TODD AKIN AMERICA DIED TODAY! thank you for being a Obama fan and Mccaskill fan. Rot in Hell Todd Akin!


62 posted on 08/21/2012 6:40:12 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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To: klb99

Like Steve Deace said tonight, the Republicans are saying and acting towards Todd Akin in ways that they would NEVER do towards Obama or the Clintons.


63 posted on 08/21/2012 6:42:04 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Akin has no idea what a mess he’s created.He’s walked right into the womens issue by expounding on a stupid conception concept. Since he’s decided not to bow out MSM via NPR are moving ahead with bashing distortions of Republican postions over the airwaves repleat with talk of gradations of rape,and victim participation not the issue of abortion, let alone the economy.

Now talk hosts among them my favorite Levin are busy urging those from the big MO to vote for this fool because there seems to be no other choice. Forearmed with the knowledge that Mc-Claire ran ads supporting The Bozo during his primary I don’t know how Mark could ask anyone to do that with a streight face. The sad fact is this sits well with certain members of the GOP-E who believe in the piecemeal approach in fixing Zerocare.

Options:
1...Pray that St Michael comes down and advises Akin to withdraw, cover those expences.


64 posted on 08/21/2012 6:50:10 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I think part of Romney’s reason for injecting himself into this is to signal “moderates” that he isn’t really all that committed to the pro-life cause. Notice I said “part”.


65 posted on 08/21/2012 6:55:49 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Theo

LOL... I, and people like me, didn’t say anything like what he said. We are not even a candidate for anything, so how could we allow the media to change the discourse of the election?


66 posted on 08/21/2012 6:59:45 PM PDT by paudio (John Roberts and Todd Akin: Two persons who'll be remembered as the saviors of ObamaCare)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Is it really that far fetched to hypothesize that a body in a severe state of stress may not conceive due to the chemical reactions in the body at the time?

No, it probably isn't.

However, it was totally irrelevant to the question he was asked -- what about pregnancies resulting from rape.

We all know that it happens. But, instead, Akin answered by trying to make an unclear distinction between rape and rape...and some unsupported mumbo jumbo about women's physiology under stress.

It had nothing to do with the question...and was a lame effort to justify what his answer would've been if he'd ever gotten to it.

In other words, Akin was apparently trying to champion the pro-life position -- but proved incapable of articulating it.

Not exactly the kind of spokesman we need on the national stage...

67 posted on 08/21/2012 7:05:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Did you catch Palin on Greta advocating a Steelman third party run if Akin doesn’t withdraw by 8/25?

Palin was on fire - the most animated and convincing I’ve ever seen her.

Do you know the MO law regarding a third party run?


68 posted on 08/21/2012 7:42:21 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: JediJones

“Steve Deace is sticking up hardcore for Akin on his radio show tonight...... and.........Deace is saying anyone who’s an enemy of Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney is a friend of his...”
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I’ve seen this story line before and know the tragic ends to which it can lead. “Anyone who’s an enemy of Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney is a friend of his..”? Wow, I guess his list of friends includes Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Just wow!! These three friends of Steve Deace must absolutely love the “divide and conquer” ploys that are ongoing.

As for me, I’ll stay out of the described circle of Deace friends and continue doing my best to support the possibility of having a conservative led, Republican majority in the US Senate come 2013. But thanks (/sarc) for promoting discord in our ranks and the Democrats’ divide and conquer strategy.


69 posted on 08/21/2012 7:47:34 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Clintonfatigued

Wonder if MO has a sore loser statute which would prevent Steelman or Brunner from going third party.


70 posted on 08/21/2012 7:49:35 PM PDT by randita (Paul Ryan is "Mr. Smith goes to Washington.")
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To: Sirius Lee

Well, pro-late term abortion McCaskill is now likely to be reelected because of Akin.

What would you rather have; another Missouri Republican who isn’t as perfectly pro-life as Akin but who will vote to confirm conservative judges, or pro-abortion extremist Claire McCaskill?


71 posted on 08/21/2012 8:08:33 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: skeeter

This is bigger than one person. We needed that seat. He screwed up and he must pay the price. Right now I see an ego out of control. I know how hard,it is to run for office. I am doing it right now.. But he must put aside his own desires. The party wants Jim gone. He will get no support. This was a winnable seat and he put it in jeopardy. I pray they get a court order and be done with him.


72 posted on 08/21/2012 11:10:04 PM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: KC Burke
Nailed it!

But Akin was not focused on the broad conservative sea-change and fiscal responsibility to dump an agenda headed by a Marxist. Instead, he was focused on single-issue agenda points of the right-to-life groups and did so in a manner that caused good conservvatives, that hate Roe v. Wade and all it stands for, to smack their foreheads, declare “epic fail” and ask themselves how they can vote for someone this dumbly arrogant.

And he did so on a show which has no pro-life listeners. The guy is tone deaf. And remains so.

73 posted on 08/22/2012 4:45:51 AM PDT by the808bass
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To: randita

We do have a sore loser law.


74 posted on 08/22/2012 4:49:30 AM PDT by the808bass
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To: House Atreides
As for me, I’ll stay out of the described circle of Deace friends and continue doing my best to support the possibility of having a conservative led, Republican majority in the US Senate come 2013. But thanks (/sarc) for promoting discord in our ranks and the Democrats’ divide and conquer strategy.

Romney and the RNC have promoted discord by not accepting Akin's apology and by withdrawing funding from his campaign.

We can't have a "conservative-led" Senate or Republican party if it's led by the likes of McConnell, Boehner and Romney, so your strategy to get there is a non-starter. We can't do anything conservative without speaking out against those who cut the legs out from under conservatives.

75 posted on 08/22/2012 7:44:31 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: JediJones

“....We can’t have a “conservative-led” Senate or Republican party if it’s led by the likes of McConnell, Boehner and Romney, so your strategy to get there is a non-starter.....”
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Do you have even the slightest clue as to what’s happening in this 2012 election (as a continuation of the 2010 election) at the House and Senate level? There are many of us doing everything in our power to get reinforcements (Mourdock from Indiana, Mandel from Ohio, Cruz from Texas, Deb Fischer from Nebraska, Flake from Arizona, Denny Rehberg from Nebraska and so forth) to the CONSERVATIVE Republicans already in the Senate. The idea being that not only would we have a Republican majority in the Senate but also have sufficient numbers of dedicated conservatives among that Republican majority so that we could have the Republican leadership rearranged so that conservative would be driving the agenda.

Akin’s idiotic self-destruction (aided and abetted by gleeful Democrats) of the viability of his candidacy and the possibility of a new conservative Senator from Missouri has been completely conterproductive of this strategy. The fool did this to himself!!

So Jedi, do yourself a favor and try your best to get at least a small clue. Stop your whining and cursing of the darkness and light a candle. Help us restore the Republic before it is too late. USE YOUR BRAINS (if that is possible).


76 posted on 08/22/2012 9:34:08 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides
Absolutely nothing I said differs at all with what you said. It sounds like you agree with me that we can’t have a "conservative-led" Congress if it’s led by the likes of McConnell and Boehner. If you're trying to get them booted out and get real conservative leadership in charge then that's a good thing.

As for Romney, he will be the lesser of 2 disasters compared to Obama, if he can get elected, which seems unlikely given his tone-deaf decision not to release his tax returns and create an "illegitimate rape"-type of issue for the Democrats to keep harping on and distract the public on. That's why Romney has been 4 points behind Obama in the WSJ/NBC poll consistently. If only people had put up the fight they're putting up against Akin to get Romney replaced, then we might have a chance for a real conservative movement to get something done.

I'll stop cursing and whining about Romney when you stop cursing and whining about Akin and how "his seat is lost," which can only happen if the crooked bunch at the RNC deny him funding. Meanwhile, with all the funding in the world, Romney's losing the White House and you don't seem to care about that. So try and get a clue. Romney's a POS candidate, has little chance of winning, and if he does he will be almost as big a roadblock to the conservative movement as Obama is. I'm voting for him as the lesser of two evils, but at no point will I deny how horrible a lesser evil he is. I'm a believer in speaking the truth.

77 posted on 08/22/2012 10:46:56 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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