If you were trying to impress a person, would you use the term, "legitimate rape"?

Todd Akin | 8/22/12

[DallasBiff]

Hubris cuts both ways, be it democrat or GOP, which will be the first to finally cut down hubris.

It looks like the GOP, which took the brave stand, to stand up to the hubristic Todd Akin, and say that verbal hubristics do have consequences.

[Gene Eric]

>> He did not claim there exists such a thing as ...

I agree.

Has any popular conservative personality given Akin the benefit of doubt without the inoculating monologue that conveys the obvious fact that rape is wicked?

The political paralysis on this matter is bewildering.

[luvbach1]

I refer other posters to a re-reading of your excellent post #10 that puts the Akin matter in its true perspective.

[MikeSteelBe]

“Impress me by defining “illegitimate rape”.”

Here is a case:

http://now.msn.com/nfl-teams-show-interest-in-player-freed-from-prison

I think the term makes sense, if you are referring to false rape accusations.

[sakic]

If that is what he meant you can add a level of ahole to his lack of brains.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

He does have unique biological theories.

[Northern Yankee]

It is something, isn't it?

Bill Clinton still gets vetted all over the world even though he's sexually abused women repeatedly over the years.

Akin says something profoundly odd, yet he's gotta go?!

[freedomfiter2]

No, I think he meant that a woman who has second thoughts the morning after and reports her encounter as rape isn’t being truthful.

[Caipirabob]

The term "legitimate rape" could be debated as far as an effective definition. I took it to be claims of rape that are not truly what we would consider a forced, violent act.

Then there are situations that fall into a grey zone. 17YO men seduced by a 25+YO teacher? Yeah, right. Like I wouldn't sign up for a tour.

Then there are the false claims.

Again, all debatable. Rape is a horrid, violent crime that should be subject to the death penalty. In saying that I'd carefully consider what I label "rape".

Anyways, I'd be willing to overlook the statements if I thought he could win. Screw the left. All I'm interested in is destroying socialist power.

Seriously.

[Gene Eric]

>> >> “Impress me by defining “illegitimate rape”.”

>> false rape accusations.

I guess I’m asking: that unless we can define “illegitimate rape”, then it’s not possible to define “legitimate rape”. Now, as you point out, “illegitimate” could mean false, which would make “legitimate” true. As true rape is rape, the modifier, “legitimate”, is valueless as “legitimate rape” is rape.

There’s an argument that states: Akin implied rape to the exclusion of statutory rape. Well, that wouldn’t be a sound legal position for Akin given that statutory rape is rape. Not addressing that distinction is a liability for Akin. That said, I’m not going to suggest Akin is advancing illegal positions on rape — can’t do that without certainty.

The only reasonable conclusion I can draw from the controversial remarks is the following: Akin believes abortion is not acceptable in the case where rape did not occur. I can’t see any other conclusion that doesn’t involve speculation.

I admit to not seeing the follow up interviews, but the bulk of the controversy was based on the initial remarks that I’m familiar with.

[gleeaikin]

And what percentage of single legitimate sexual acts lead to pregnancy. I doubt that it is much higher.

[Republican1795.]

Well here is a link: Rape Pregnancies are Rare. Which bolsters the point & was probably one of the sources for Akin's earlier point. Furthermore: I am very skeptical of anything from Scientific American or most other establishment organs for the simple reason that they lie to us regarding the theory of macro evolution so I have little faith in what they have to say as they promote an agenda. They no doubt will want to promote the notion that rape results in a lot of pregnancies as that erroneous notion helps to promote the justification for abortion. Though I see your point concerning the election & would rather see Akin drop out at this point for the good of the country - I still think that Akin is being distorted.

[gleeaikin]

I decided to Google a possible answer to the question of what percentage of ordinary unprotected sex acts result in pregnancy. Here is a link, and the statistical guess was 3 to 5% per time, so it would appear that raped women do NOT have some special protective shield.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_odds_of_getting_pregnant_if_you_had_sex_only_one_time

[Republican1795.]

Well my latest link debunks your notion. As it notes that the true number of rape pregnancies is lower than 1 %. Furthermore no one was talking about a “ protective shield” but rather that emotional stress plays a factor in “TRY[ING] [ note Akin said TRY ] to shut down that process”. I think we have made Akin’s statement a lot more absolutist than he intended & further his basic premise was fairly accurate as the true figures of rape pregnancies is far lower than what the left controlled media state. One’s emotional state affects ovulation & the body as a whole. Akin has a political tin ear but he was basically - for the most part - right.

[Wayne07]

If you read the update on the site you linked to (http://www.christianliferesources.com/news/rape-pregnancy-and-the-akin-controversy-8741) the author says, "I have yet to see a study that demonstrates some sort of contraceptive effect from a rape." Now he does go on to hypothesize that it could happen, but the important thing is that there is no science or study showing it, so it shouldn't be cited as a reason for being pro-life.

Akin is bring distorted, particularly on the "legitimate rape" quote. But it behooved him to speak more clearly and avoid the issue. The rape/abortion trap has been used by the media and democrats for decades now, a good candidate can't fall into it.