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Dee Snider lashes out at politician for using Twisted Sister song
New republic ^ | August 21, 2012 | WENN

Posted on 08/23/2012 7:36:48 AM PDT by Beaten Valve

Rocker DEE SNIDER has lashed out at U.S. vice presidential hopeful PAUL RYAN for allegedly using his popular tune WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT during a campaign stop in Pennsylvania. Ryan, who is currently touring America to support Mitt Romney's bid for the White House, reportedly tried to boost morale during a political rally on Tuesday (21Aug12) by blaring the classic Twisted Sister hit to pump up the crowd. However, Snider has taken issue with the politician's use of the song and has lodged a formal complaint with Ryan's camp. A statement from the 57 year old reads, "I emphatically denounce Paul Ryan's use of my band Twisted Sister's song 'We're Not Gonna Take It' in any capacity. There is almost nothing he stands for that I agree with except the use of the (home exercise regime) P90X." This is not the first time a Republican Party candidate has been reprimanded for their choice of music - earlier this month (Aug12) rockers Silversun Pickups fired off a cease-and-desist letter ordering Romey to stop playing their track Panic Switch.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2012; achillwind; algore; boycotthollywood; censorship; deesnider; defundtheleft; hollywoodreds; maninadress; paulryan; pmrc; shutupandsing; twistedsister; usefulidiot
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To: matginzac
"How does one get in touch with the right person in the campaign who can change it?

Forget it. They are far beyond ever listening to one of us once they reach this level. The only way to ever dream of them giving you even a moment of attention is with a big check in your hand. In contrast, they pay huge sums to advisers who come up with some really lame ideas and frequently miss the points we all banter about every day.

51 posted on 08/23/2012 8:11:53 AM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: Vigilanteman
At least the rest of us know not to buy anything or play anything from Twisted Sister again.

As I posted earlier, I read a post from someone that basically said that if a music guy like Dee Snider or a movie guy or gal injects himself/herself into the public debate, then his/her music becomes public property, and copyright should no longer apply.

52 posted on 08/23/2012 8:13:22 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Beaten Valve

Dee Snider wants to be relevant again after his cameo in Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure and Celebrity Apprentice.

Let it go Dee.


53 posted on 08/23/2012 8:15:19 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: ConservativeStatement

Cool...


54 posted on 08/23/2012 8:15:31 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Beaten Valve
his popular tune WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT

Did they really need to put that in there?

55 posted on 08/23/2012 8:15:55 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Beaten Valve

Now, correct me if I’m worng., but don’t the publishers own the rights to the songs like Paul McCartney found out.

It does seem to be a screwed up system because I bet U2 owns all their material except for maybe Boy and War but even so, they might have bought them back.

Now, I could see the copywrite for their performances, that’s different. However, don’t bars and such pay protection money to be able to play these songs so they don’t get hassled or sued and would Ryan playing this song fall under this so long as the RIAA???? or whoever is paid off, the artest can’t say a thing.

I do remember when Rush played a Pretenders song and Chrissie Hind was so upset that Rush played her song that she stood by her principals and wouldn’t let Rush use the song. Oh, my mistake, she ‘allowed’ him to use her song if he would donate $500k to Peta.

Does anyone know the particulars of the law on this??

I like Dee Snyder but I think he would want his music played anywhere, plus, I thought he was a libertarian.


56 posted on 08/23/2012 8:15:58 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Beaten Valve
his popular tune WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT

Did they really need to put that in there?

57 posted on 08/23/2012 8:16:05 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: DonkeyBonker
The Who’s lyrics would be much better anyway...We won’t get fooled again.

Nope. Too much of a reminder of when GWB bungled the "Fool me once ..." quote.

58 posted on 08/23/2012 8:16:32 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Beaten Valve

If someone doesn’t want their song used, take it the hell out of the ABSCAM catalog or whatever it is, you publish it there saying hey, use my song but you gotta pay me a royalty.

Every damned election year we go through this, artist has a song published out in the catalog so anyone can use it if they pay, then a politician uses it they don’t like and they demand they stop.

ITS STUPID! And frankly Dee, you aren’t a dumb guy, not a genious but not a dumb guy, you really need to get off the liberal plantation.


59 posted on 08/23/2012 8:16:32 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: wardaddy

So if Ryan paid an ASCAP or BMI royalty fee, what does the artist have to say about it, legally speaking?


60 posted on 08/23/2012 8:16:49 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Lx

I spelled artist wrong. Oops.


61 posted on 08/23/2012 8:17:25 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Beaten Valve

Didn’t he used to be in that show “sex and the city”?


62 posted on 08/23/2012 8:17:30 AM PDT by free me (It's serious fun!)
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To: massgopguy

My guess would be that they don’t want their music used for any political purpose.


63 posted on 08/23/2012 8:17:46 AM PDT by Corporate Law
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To: Beaten Valve

This is actually rather surprising to me. I was recently on an 80’s rocker buying binge and purchased the “Stay Hungry” CD. I was rather shocked at some of the themes of the songs, pleasently shocked. Many of the songs on that CD contain christian undertones.....

I did some research and found that many sites reference that he is a Christian and tries to live by Christian values/principles.

I’m having trouble believing this source......


64 posted on 08/23/2012 8:18:10 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: silverleaf
Why don’t these candidates - and also Rush and Hannity - use music from artists who support them or at least support free speech?????

I am tired of this petty sniping. Screw them.

I’m sure there are MANY artists who would appreciate the support and publicity

Like the Lt Dan Band?

65 posted on 08/23/2012 8:20:04 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: ecomcon

I suggest “God Bless the USA” as a good Republican campaign song. Then again, liberals would have a meltdown over the use of such music.

Sometimes I think liberals have multiple reasons to be offended about absurd matters.


66 posted on 08/23/2012 8:20:41 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: silverleaf

because it bothers the prissy artist types that they have no control over conservatives.

It is an affirmation of the free market. These losers “protest” because they THINK it gives them PR for their live performances (lipsink shows?) since they do not own the rights to the songs.

They are too stupid to understand that they are closing the wallets of the majority of americans.

He would get more pr by performing live for ryan. Then again, I never knew twisted sister was into homosexual “marriage.”


67 posted on 08/23/2012 8:21:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ecomcon
Actually there are some quite good Pretenders songs which have nothing to do at all with politics...Ohio was one of the few and yes it was her lament about suburban sprawl..and even though she is a lefty..lament over suburban sprawl is not just a liberal perspective

conservatives also try in pretty areas anyhow to preserve historical character or bucolic nature from unplanned growth

and I do build and own things and even I would agree with that

Earlier Fleetwood Mac from Peter Green thru Danny Kirwan and Jeremy Spencer and so forth had some great stuff..stuff most folks under 50 know nothing of given they only know the commercial stuff after Buckingham Nicks joined

Christine McVies work on Bare Trees and Heroes are Hard to Find is priceless for a soft female singer who did not scream her vocals

the earlier stuff from Black magic Woman, Oh well, for Your Love and so forth are understated but pretty historical for the 67-73 Brit era

and I also like Buckingham..I find him a quirky but underrated guitar player

I do agree with your conclusion though, play the music of folks who like you if you are gonna pay them.

There are bands besides just Nashville who won't care..even if they disagree with you

68 posted on 08/23/2012 8:22:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: Boogieman

Yup. A lot of it comes down to the left/right brain thing. Those drawn to the political Right tends toward Joe Friday ‘Just the facts. Mamn’ thought where 1+1=2. The political left gets the dreamers and (way) outside the box types. Those are the creative types that think in terms of ‘What if’ rather than dealing with the reality as it stands.

It’s that outside the box mindset that fosters much of the ‘artistic’’ nature of the left. AKA, you don’t see a lot od conservative art communes or the like. Likewise, you don’t see a whole lot of artsy types real big in self reliance or personal responsibility.

Of course there are exceptions. But as a whole this has always held true. For every Charlie Daniels there are 100,000 Tom Morellos or Dee Sniders.


69 posted on 08/23/2012 8:24:08 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Obadiah

“Really, this guy had what? One hit! He’s a one-hit wonder who has gotton more mileage out of that one lipstick-wearing hit than most any other “musician”.”

Don’t forget he was in “Pee-Wee’s Great Adventure”


70 posted on 08/23/2012 8:24:42 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: Beaten Valve

What would a presidential election season be without the traditional complaints from leftist entertainers that republicans are mis-using their artistic creations?

I don’t hear Rappers, Hip Hoppers and homo porn stars attacking democrats this way.


71 posted on 08/23/2012 8:25:32 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Beaten Valve

No problem. Switch to The Who’s “We Won’t Be Fooled Again”...


72 posted on 08/23/2012 8:27:38 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Beaten Valve

Playing music at a campaign event merely requires ASCAP, BMI or SESAC royalties be paid to the songwriters’ copyright holder at a fixed rate. That copyright holder has no veto; the holder of the copyright in the recording has no say and doesn’t get paid. When you put music in a TV or radio commercial, you have to negotiate with the holder of the copyright in the recording and that holder can just say no; the songwriters’ copyright holder gets a different royalty.

In all events, the artist has no direct say and doesn’t get directly paid unless he owns the copyright in question; usually he’s entitled to some payment or consent rights under his contract with the copyright owner.


73 posted on 08/23/2012 8:27:38 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: Beaten Valve
I met Dee Snyder once. He's obnoxious, completely rude and a moron. Oh, and he lacks talent, as well.
74 posted on 08/23/2012 8:27:43 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Beaten Valve
The way I read the quote, it seemed that Dee Snider was simply using the occassion to get a plug in for P90x. He must have a part ownership deal with them or something.

He's not a bad guy. I still remember him humiliating Sen Al Gore in the Tipper hearings. ("Senator Gore, if Mrs. Gore found images of sado-masicism in my song lyrics, its because that's what she was looking for...")

Check this out: Dee Snider Takes Major Shots at Al Gore

75 posted on 08/23/2012 8:29:01 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: butterdezillion
this contention can only be fought out in a federal court and most pols don't want the negative attention...here is a snippet from "the old grey hag" over some unkown pop group Silversun asking Romney to stop using a song called "Panic Switch"

A publicist for the Silversun Pickups said the band does not agree that the use of the song is covered under the blanket licenses. Copyright experts say such licenses, usually bought by restaurants and other businesses that play recorded music, do protect the campaign from many copyright complaints, but a politician can still be sued under the federal trademark law for false advertising if the use of the song implies that the musician has endorsed the candidate.

I suppose the candidate could always make a statement or banner saying musician doesn't endorse this campaign...sounds silly doesn't it

sad fact..creative people are emotional driven more often than not..and that pushes them to that sort of reasoning and they are lemmings..they look around first to see how to answer

76 posted on 08/23/2012 8:31:28 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: silverleaf

He should use red white and blue from skynyd instead... they are the good guys!


77 posted on 08/23/2012 8:34:25 AM PDT by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Beaten Valve

Use “Stranglehold” by the Nuge - problem solved!


78 posted on 08/23/2012 8:36:19 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (When is the Queen Haters reunion tour?)
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To: ecomcon
Screw these bastards....writing a letter has no legal standing. When these people pull this crap don't stop using the music until they make a legal filing. In other words make them pay for what they are demanding before you quit playing it. Do anything to make it expensive for them to accomplish their goal, hire a lawyer, filing fees etc!!
79 posted on 08/23/2012 8:37:31 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Huskrrrr

That and after she came out of her stooper someone reminded her she had made more off of Limbaugh playing that third rate song than anything else!!


80 posted on 08/23/2012 8:41:39 AM PDT by ontap
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To: silverleaf
Why don’t these candidates - and also Rush and Hannity - use music from artists who support them or at least support free speech?????

Whenever they do, their rallies end up sounding like a country music concert. And the gutless GOP establishment is obviously too scared to be associated with real conservatives like Ted Nugent and Hank Williams, Jr. Maybe they should stick to classical music?

81 posted on 08/23/2012 8:44:41 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: al_c

Yeah!

I am partial to Krista Branch myself.

How about “I Am America” - too “tea party” I suppose :-(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw&list=PL73F558F75D9C13C2&index=26&feature=plpp_video


82 posted on 08/23/2012 8:49:25 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Why do rock and rollers complain over use of their music by Republicans but never complain about Democrats using their music?

They don't lose cool points when Democrats use their music.

83 posted on 08/23/2012 9:06:28 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: wardaddy

Saw the Pretenders a few years ago with ZZ Top and the Stray Cats. I went out to smoke during the Pretenders and all her BS preaching about crap I could care less about.

They sounded terrible,too. Had she put as much time into sound check as to preaching...at least ZZ was great(as always)


84 posted on 08/23/2012 9:17:10 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: americas.best.days...

Next expect hissy fits from men in makeup about their songs being played over the satellite radio in Chick-Fil-A and In-&-Out Burger.


85 posted on 08/23/2012 9:26:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: al_c
The Who’s lyrics would be much better anyway...We won’t get fooled again.

The Who were angry about Michael Moore including their song in his movie Fahrenheit 9-11.

86 posted on 08/23/2012 9:29:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: wardaddy
but a politician can still be sued under the federal trademark law for false advertising if the use of the song implies that the musician has endorsed the candidate.

I would think (if I were on a jury) that such "implication" only comes if you are using the song IN a tv or radio ad. Everything else these days is just background noise.

87 posted on 08/23/2012 9:32:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: wardaddy
but a politician can still be sued under the federal trademark law for false advertising if the use of the song implies that the musician has endorsed the candidate.

I would think (if I were on a jury) that such "implication" only comes if you are using the song IN a tv or radio ad. Everything else these days is just background noise.

88 posted on 08/23/2012 9:32:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: DonkeyBonker
Won't get fooled again? Would that be prescient?

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss!

Lyrics to Won't Get Fooled Again by the Who

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeah!

Meet the new boss

Same as the old boss

Although it may well be apropos, somehow I do not think that is the impression the GOP wants people to have of their campaign.

89 posted on 08/23/2012 9:51:32 AM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: Waryone

Saw them live, twice. Unfortunately without Keith was OK but he wasn’t driving the bad so you ended up with lame songs like, Athena,

The second time I saw them they had a different drummer and they rocked.

Too bad about John thunderfingers Entwistle.


90 posted on 08/23/2012 10:04:10 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: silverleaf

Rush isn’t a fair comparison. He secured the artist’s permission to use it, and as he’s said many times, he pays for it.


91 posted on 08/23/2012 3:22:26 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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