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’2016: Obama’s America’ Movie Is Disturbingly Necessary
CBS Los Angeles ^ | 8/17/2012 | Scott Paulson

Posted on 08/27/2012 8:27:13 AM PDT by IbJensen

This past week, “2016: The Movie” about President Barack Obama opened in the Chicago area, and I chose to get more of an education about Obama by seeing the movie. After the inundation of canned hype for the movie on conservative talk shows across the Chicago radio dial that sounded more like commercials than honest endorsements of the movie, I was skeptical of what I was going to see.

While some talk show hosts sounded like they were genuinely impressed with the documentary and honestly endorsing the film, there were those who were obviously reading a commercial script which was not coming across as sincere to the regular listener – at least not to this often-skeptical listener. Perhaps, in future promotions of the film, it would be wise to have pre-recorded commercials done by the professional commercial-makers rather than having the likes of Mark Levin and Sean Hannity doing script after script to promote the movie. After all, the listeners aren’t stupid and resent any attempt at being conned. After many reads by the talk show hosts, the readings of the commercial script were no more enthusiastic than another Life-Lock commercial read – another commercial that ought to be professionally done.

Yet, I’m glad I saw the hyped-film because it was more informative than I had thought it would be and included less propaganda than I had predicted. If anything, it was nearly too informative as there was an enormous amount of information condensed into the nearly one-hour-and-a-half documentary. Fact after fact is put forth which shows that President Obama definitely has many skeletons in the closet that have not been released prior to the nation’s trust in him with the Oval Office.

To watch this movie and realize – or simply be reminded of – all that is unknown about President Obama is of concern. Much of the information has been ignored by the American media totally. When appropriately reminded as to what is still unknown about Obama to date, one has to ask: How can any logical-thinking person give a damn about Romney’s taxes while not asking any questions regarding our current president’s past?

The man influences the entire globe, but liberal Americans want to know how much Mitt Romney paid in taxes in the past rather than learn about the man who they have entrusted with the country. Unbelievable.

The movie undeniably links Obama to persons of suspicious-interest due to their past actions and statements, such as former radical activist and Chicago educator Bill Ayers. While the media and blinded-liberals cast such facts aside, the movie does not. No, this portion of the movie is not propaganda – it is the display of factual information about relationships between people that cannot be denied. Yet, the “left” does deny the facts that are right in front of them.

Quite disturbing is the talk of the United States economy in the film. The current national debt which has increased two-fold during Obama’s presidency and the horrendous economy is suggested to be part of the plan to strip the nation of democracy – reasonable cause to make citizens totally dependent on the government. The “left” is aghast at this suggestion of the current economy. They actually believe that Obama is unintelligent enough to let this economy just happen. Ironically, it’s many of the people on the “right” who know Obama’s not stupid, and much of what has happened to the United States in the past four years is part of Obama’s plan.

How could one so-highly educated and intelligent as Obama not know what he was doing when he incurred such debt? I left the movie thinking more strongly than I had in the past that the current debt and this economy was part of Obama’s plan all along. Increasingly making Americans dependent on the government is the plan. What’s more, he knew his blind followers would believe it was not the plan and, of course, was all Bush’s fault.

He must be laughing at his blind followers all the way to the “new America” they’re allowing him to create. My belief is that Obama continues to prey on his die-hard followers’ stupidity to accomplish his personal goals for America.

The most disturbing part of the film to me was the interview with President Obama’s half-brother George Obama from Nairobi, Kenya. How can Obama claim to want to help people when he has done absolutely nothing for his own family? It makes me wonder if he really cares about anybody if he can’t find it in his heart to help his own family.

As the closing credits started to role upward across the screen, the audience applauded. Me, I just walked out – reasonably upset.

Those who have already decided to vote for Obama will probably not even see the movie. It’s sad but they probably don’t want to know the truth when it is laid out so clearly for them in this documentary. The independents who are still deciding who they are going to vote for ought to see this film. I’m quite confident that any undecided voter who sees this film will know who to vote for after viewing this documentary. If you know you’re not going to support the “left” in this coming election, see the film out of interest if you like. But, fair warning, it’s disturbing – and quite frightening – to say the least.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016movie; bho2012; evilobamaregime; moviereview; obamathecheat; obamatheliar; obamathephony
A lot of the left wingers who support Obama are not blind to his motives. They are nihilistic destroyers who want to see the US system brought down. To call them "fooled" is naive. They are willing. They want to create "a better world" - unfortunately when you want to do that using government force innocents get trampled or worse.

When Senator Obama told the Washington Post interview that he went to American flag burnings, I knew this man belongs in jail, not the oval office.

1 posted on 08/27/2012 8:27:26 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

FBHO


2 posted on 08/27/2012 8:30:30 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: IbJensen

“It makes me wonder if he really cares about anybody...”

I genuinely do not believe he cares about anybody, other than himself. I have never seen him exhibit it. I have never really seen him ‘joyful’ or ‘sad’. The media sees this and glefully calls him ‘Spock’. I call him cold blooded.

As an example. Jeremiah Wright was a surrogate father to Obama...and Barry threw him away like used toilet paper. He never really ‘cared’ for Wright.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 8:35:55 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: IbJensen

CBS!!!!!

OK, CBS Los Angeles. That’s still CBS. I’m shocked.


4 posted on 08/27/2012 8:36:40 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: IbJensen

“They want to create “a better world”

Some are just misguided and probably have this motivation. Many, however, are driven by other factors, including:
1) Envy and the desire to bring down others.
2) Dependency on the system and a desire to keep freebies from the government flowing.
3) Racism - including those who want lax immigration policies to allow a rapid shift in demographics.
4) Women who for one reason or another resent men, and those who want to promote and continue policies that given them advantages over men.
5) Those who only look at the surface and truly believe that he’s a ‘reasonable’ nice guy with good intentions.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 8:37:05 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: IbJensen
I take it that Scott Paulson is some sort of blogger, who is a CBS/LA token conservative. Still, it's a bit surprising that they would post this. I don't suppose they actually aired it on TV.

Scott Paulson writes political news and commentary for CBS Local and Examiner.com and teaches English at a community college in the Chicago area.

A community college in the Chicago area, eh? He'd better watch his back.

6 posted on 08/27/2012 8:37:09 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: IbJensen
CBS LA???? Wow!

This article needs to be posted on as many forums on the Internet as possible. It is a hard, cold and sober look at Obama, done by a someone writing for CBS who realizes the harm the media has caused his country by failing to INVESTIGATE--as the Fourth Estate of a Free Republic must--to ensure that the Republic remains free!

God bless Mr. Paulson for writing this, and may the truth of his words reach as many people as possible!

7 posted on 08/27/2012 8:37:40 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: IbJensen
I'm glad Paulson woke up and smelled the coffee. Hopefully, there will be others like them. The media's complicity in the incredible con that is the 0bama presidency is nothing less than treason.

The movie undeniably links Obama to persons of suspicious-interest due to their past actions and statements, such as former radical activist and Chicago educator Bill Ayers.

How on earth can he gloss over Frank Marshall Davis?! (Communist Party card # 47544)

8 posted on 08/27/2012 8:37:45 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: IbJensen
Fact after fact is put forth which shows that President Obama definitely has many skeletons in the closet that have not been released prior to the nation’s trust in him with the Oval Office.

And one of D'Souza's interviewees makes the point Americans didn't know Obama in 2008, and didn't WANT to know him.

They were simply mesmerized, and developed a tight emotional bond with him, the breakage of which to this day seems to be difficult for them.

America has no excuses this time. This electorate has seen Obama's game and if he's reelected, it's proof once and for all they've been sufficiently conditioned to fully accept a dominant, intrusive federal government as a fact of life. America will be a bona-fide socialist country.

9 posted on 08/27/2012 8:40:13 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama, you're going down in November.)
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To: IbJensen

I saw the movie.

It was pretty good; and, I saw a few things I had not seen before.

The theater was 80% full....all the people I saw were perfectly normal everyday people, over 40 years old. I don’t think anybody who has been hopenytized will go see it...this is going to be an enthusiasm/turnout election, because its hard to convince BO voters they were wrong.

BTW, I think its telling that liberals won’t see this movie...they just don’t want to know anything about Barry. Its hands on ears and ‘la la la I can’t hear you’. I went to see Michael Moore’s anti-Bush piece, just out of curiousity (although my ticket sale was credited to some Will Smith movie).


10 posted on 08/27/2012 8:43:55 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: IbJensen

It is certainly possible to have a patriotic liberal. Having a patriotic progressive is a stretch as the dilution of national identity and power is part and parcel with their ideaolgy. I am splitting hairs perhaps but the distinction is obvious when you compare progressive John Kerry and liberal Joe Liberman.


11 posted on 08/27/2012 8:46:07 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: IbJensen
The man influences the entire globe, but liberal Americans want to know how much Mitt Romney paid in taxes in the past rather than learn about the man who they have entrusted with the country. Unbelievable.

Yes, unbelievable.

12 posted on 08/27/2012 8:47:25 AM PDT by Reddon
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To: lacrew
hopenytized

Thought that was a typo at first, but now I get it. Great word, gonna start using it!
13 posted on 08/27/2012 8:53:37 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: IbJensen
They're still selling this lie:

How could one so-highly educated and intelligent as Obama not know what he was doing when he incurred such debt...

14 posted on 08/27/2012 8:56:31 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: IbJensen

SeeBS has this?

Scott better have his resume in order

The truth is not what they normally do...


15 posted on 08/27/2012 8:57:08 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Reddon

The man influences the entire globe, but liberal Americans want to know how much Mitt Romney paid in taxes in the past rather than learn about the man who they have entrusted with the country. Unbelievable.
...

Yes, unbelievable.

...

And in 2008 they were busy rummaging around trash bins in Wasilla to find dirt on Sarah Palin.


16 posted on 08/27/2012 8:57:45 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: IbJensen

He/they are instituting Cloward & Piven suggested policies to transform the government.


17 posted on 08/27/2012 8:58:59 AM PDT by Basement Dweller
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To: IbJensen
Curious thing about this movie: The reaction from the left.

Total silence.

Not loud attacks, not shrill attempts to claim it as untrue.

They just want it to go away. But it won't go away. Because it is true, because so much of it is in Commandante Zero's own words, and there's nothing the left can say to refute it.

The word of mouth on this picture after this last weekend is staggering. People who thought they were going to see “right-wing propaganda” leave the theater shaken.

It's easy for FReepers to say “I told you so” because we knew these things about Barry in 2008. The rest of American is just waking up, and they're shocked at what they just found out. These people realize they have been duped, they realize that they've been had.

And they're going to be angry.

18 posted on 08/27/2012 9:00:58 AM PDT by mojito
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To: IbJensen
The author seems to have skipped what I think was the primary thing that I got out of the movie, Obama’s motivation. Maybe I'm wrong but I think D’Souza was making the case that Obama is attempting to follow throw on the dreams of his father of throwing off white imperialism. D’Souza seemed to contrast his life story of having grown up in British dominated India with Obama and his father's experience growing up under white British imperialist oppression in Kenya. The funny thing is that Obama seems to be out to bring the U.S. low, but the U.S. never was an imperialist nation and actually was begun as just the opposite. The U.S. more than any other country has had a merit system that allowed more people to rise without being locked into a class. Even the election of Obama seems to support that case. So what Obama seeks to lay low is the one place where what his father endured was least likely to happen. What's funny too is that some African Americans sympathize with him, but they have nothing in common. Obama’s ancestry were never slaves in America. Obama is foreign.
19 posted on 08/27/2012 9:01:10 AM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: IbJensen

Amusing note:

Someone speculated that they would not be surprised if some leftist lunatic showed up in a theater showing 2016 with the idea of shooting up the crowd.

Someone else immediately countered that they imagined the audience attending the movie would not be defenseless, and that the kook would be walking into a place with more guns than a crowded police bar during happy hour.


20 posted on 08/27/2012 9:02:12 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: IbJensen

’2016: Obama’s America’ Movie Is Disturbingly Necessary

How “ironical”... this movie is “disturbingly necessary” because of the socialist-enabling propogandists posing as today’s MSM, like CBS, ABC, ANC, CNN, etc.


21 posted on 08/27/2012 9:03:29 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
“They want to create “a better world”

"...they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten? They'll swing back to the belief that they can make people... better. And I do not hold to that." -- Capt. Malcolm Reynolds, main character of Joss Whedon's movie "Serenity".

22 posted on 08/27/2012 9:05:12 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: lacrew

Does anyone know if this movie has changed anyone’s mind?


23 posted on 08/27/2012 9:06:05 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: IbJensen; All
FTA:

How could one so-highly educated and intelligent as Obama not know what he was doing when he incurred such debt? I left the movie thinking more strongly than I had in the past that the current debt and this economy was part of Obama’s plan all along. Increasingly making Americans dependent on the government is the plan. What’s more, he knew his blind followers would believe it was not the plan and, of course, was all Bush’s fault.(Emphasis added.)

Many Tea Partiers and FReepers have been upset about the Obama debt because of the terrible burden it imposes on future generations. Actually, it's far worse than that because it inflicts two terrible, immediate, and fully intended injuries: 1) just as with Lenin in Russia when the Bolsheviks took over, it erodes the currency, destroys private wealth, and forces previously self-sufficient citizens to become government dependents and 2) it devastates the country's credit rating, making all government expenditures more costly and, even worse, making it very hard to do the massive borrowing that would be essential to fight a major war or deal with another national emergency.

24 posted on 08/27/2012 9:11:27 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I went hoping there were CC’ers in the audience; I even asked later of my CC friends there if they were CC’ing.

As a once-per-year movie-goer, it’s reassurance of safety, as I watched suspiciously the appearances/mannerisms of some lone characters that entered the theater.


25 posted on 08/27/2012 9:12:37 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: mojito

2016 answers the “why?” question.

Obama’s mother painted the picture of his “Father’s Dreams”, and ensured he was fully indoctrinated in his anti-colonial and communist beliefs.

The movie very effectively explains what it means to be “anti-colonial”, and how important that is, relative to the return of the Winston Churchill bust.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 9:18:18 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: IbJensen

Obama cut ties with his spiritual leader of 20 some years like he was changing his boxer shorts. I was no fan of Jeremiah Wright, but to be cast aside without so much as thought, or some sort of defense even though he was indefensible, was a glaring example of how thoughtless, ruthless and egotistical Obama is. He and his wife would probably throw their own children under the bus if they thought it would help them politically.

The man has no morals, no couth and considers himself supreme because he spends most of the day reading the glowing press clippings he’s received from the lame stream media over the past 4 years. Unfortunately, the sad truth is his tenure has been one of malaise, amateurism and general inexperience. The man hadn’t run as much as a hot dog stand in his life, and his lack of leadership skills are stark and unnerving. Mr. Obama was unfortunately a flavor of the month bought, sold and distributed by a left leaning media and after four unsuccessful years he has left virtually everybody with a bad taste in the mouth.

I believe the American populace will resoundingly do the right thing and expel him from office. If they don’t, then they will truly deserve what will come with another 4 years of this egotistical fool for a President.


27 posted on 08/27/2012 9:19:43 AM PDT by jerod (They were Socialist, Pro-Abortionist, Gun Control Nuts & Excessive Environmentalist -the NAZI party)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

As for the surface. I was impressed the 2004 convention speech. BUT the first speech I saw him give in 2007, did not show the same man. From the start, there are those cold eyes and outthrust chin that made him for me a repellant figure.


28 posted on 08/27/2012 9:20:55 AM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: IbJensen
I think every member of the media should be required to watch it. Some agree with BO but others are just ignorant.

The funny thing is, if he ever succeeds to the extent he desires, most of them won't be needed anymore and will suffer just like the rest of us.

I blame the media for this man who never did anything important, to become POTUS. We all do!

29 posted on 08/27/2012 9:26:11 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Lx
Got it in one. The man is a moron who was rushed through all of his colleges on the affirmative action fast-track. Only the MSM's slobbering pandering to Ole Jug Ears enabled him to pass himself off as a lettered man of genius. He reads well enough to give a merely adequate speech when the teleprompter doesn't malfunction; otherwise, he becomes a gibbering fool.

The media owe this great nation an accounting for the damages imposed by the momentous falsehoods they perpetrated in 2008. I, like Thomas Jefferson, heartily agree on the importance of a free press, but second the great patriot's view that "It is a melancholy truth, that a suppression of the press could not more completely deprive the nation of its benefits, than is done by its abandoned prostitution to falsehood."

30 posted on 08/27/2012 9:27:00 AM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: IbJensen

I watched it this weekend and was very impressed. Denesh used Obama’s own words and from his friends to make his points. No rumours, no conspiracy musings. I am afraid though that most Obama voters (this time) won’t be swayed by this. Communism sounds just fine to those who don’t work for a living.


31 posted on 08/27/2012 9:30:28 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: All

Excerpt...

He must be laughing at his blind followers all the way to the “new America” they’re allowing him to create. My belief is that Obama continues to prey on his die-hard followers’ stupidity to accomplish his personal goals for America.


32 posted on 08/27/2012 9:34:00 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: C210N

What’s just as bad as the SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS who conspired in the fraud to fool the american people into getting the ineligible radical obama on the ballot in the first place, are his anti american supporters infested in our MSM. We can and will boot the COMMUNIST OBAMA REGIME our on their rear ends in 2012. What are we going to do about these socialist frauds infested in the MSM. They will still be here. One thing we can do to eliminate these anti american frauds is to financially BUST EM NEVER TRUST EM, any way you can.


33 posted on 08/27/2012 9:37:22 AM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: IbJensen

Gee, I wonder who Christopher Buckley will be endorsing for President this year. Haven’t heard from him lately on anything. Oh, Chris! Where are you???


34 posted on 08/27/2012 9:50:47 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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” A lot of the left wingers who support Obama are not blind to his motives. They are nihilistic destroyers who want to see the US system brought down. To call them “fooled” is naive. They are willing. They want to create “a better world” - unfortunately when you want to do that using government force innocents get trampled or worse. “

So far, 100 million people have been slaughtered in order to make this “a better world”


35 posted on 08/27/2012 9:52:45 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: InterceptPoint
>CBS!!!!! OK, CBS Los Angeles. That’s still CBS. I’m shocked.

I caught that too... very strange. I assume the LA division will have job openings soon.

36 posted on 08/27/2012 10:23:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: lacrew
...because its hard to convince BO voters they were wrong.

In Jonestown it was reported there was rapturous singing of joy and praises... right up until that last half hour. Same-O, same-O

37 posted on 08/27/2012 10:40:47 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Spartan79

I saw the film this weekend with my informed, but not rabid anti-Obama wife. She doesn’t care for the man, and was never inclined to vote for him, but after seeing the movie, she was “ profoundly disturbed” by the lack of reporting from the national press. Had people been aware of these obvious, and serious red flags, any thinking American would have second-guessed entrusting our checkbook and national security to a mysterious, silky-voiced reader of someone else’s speeches....no background, no substance. This was American Idol.

While powerful, my only complaint with the film is that D’Souza should have spent a few more minutes demonstrating the American press’ willing abtication of thier role as unbiased fact-finders of truth.....regardless of personal opinions and politcal persuasions.

Given that Woodword and Bernstein won a Pulitzer for Watergate, an ethical journalist would have siezed on this candidate’s background, and made him/herselves a (wealthy) household name simply by doing their job, and pointing out that BHO is not who you think he is to the American voters. It takes a foreigner to rub our noses in the obvious.

....America knew more in 72 hours about Sarah Palin, and Joe the Plumber than we still know about BHO....now America knows more.


38 posted on 08/27/2012 11:09:26 AM PDT by Benjamin Dover (This tagline space for rent)
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While powerful, my only complaint with the film is that D’Souza should have spent a few more minutes demonstrating the American press’ willing abtication of thier role as unbiased fact-finders of truth.....

Anyone who can't see the 'bias' in the press doesn't want to see it.

39 posted on 08/27/2012 11:24:04 AM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: mojito

You wrote what I was wondering about. Where is the outrage, the denial, the ridicule, etc. about this movie from the Left? I keep thinking somehow I just have not run across it. I have heard zip from them. Why? Maybe Liberals could be convinced to see it if we ask them to please go see it because we need to see their rebuttal.


40 posted on 08/27/2012 11:24:47 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: Lx

Therein lies the problem.

All Marxists (including Karl) are blithering idiots! They make no sense. Braaack is no exception. He is a boring sociopathic narcissist.


41 posted on 08/27/2012 11:56:20 AM PDT by IbJensen (Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: JimSEA

LIEberman and Kerry are very much alike:

They’re both left-wing a$$holes!


42 posted on 08/27/2012 11:58:02 AM PDT by IbJensen (Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: IbJensen

I just happened to notice the one-sheet last week while seeing another film. Did not know it was out in the Dallas area. I attended the early matinee this morning (Monday, Aug 27) in West Plano, Texas (Far North Dallas suburb). The theater was full - not sold out, but extraordinarily full for this day and time. Mind you Monday is my movie day and I have seen many films from Summer blockbusters to documentaries where I have had the theater all to myself.

This is the second week for this film and people are still coming out in groups to see it. This is a red state, and Plano is certainly quite Conservative and Christian. But its good to see so many people motivated to see a political film, and to hear of their love for America.

A common theme I heard from some in the audience (and my own Conservative friends) its not hatred for Obama, its love for their country that influences their efforts to vote him (and others like him) out of office.

One area of disappointment - I think they could have done much better showing what the nation would be like if Obama was reelected. They glossed over that last part. It should have been much stronger, illustrating the global devastation from a second term.


43 posted on 08/27/2012 12:05:28 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: IbJensen
You're not going to believe this!
The LAME Stream Media won't report it, either.

44 posted on 08/27/2012 12:07:04 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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