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Navy vet shot by deputy in own backyard—family seeks answers
The Lookout ^ | Aug 24, 2012 | Ron Recinto

Posted on 08/27/2012 10:08:54 PM PDT by george76

The brother of a Navy veteran shot by a deputy in her own backyard wants the sheriff's department to admit its mistake and take responsibility for the incident.

Jennifer Orey, 36, was shot Sunday in a surprise encounter with two sheriff's deputies who were searching for a man reportedly in the area wearing a ski mask, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. Orey was in her pajamas in her yard around 10:30 p.m. because she heard noises and thought it was her ex-husband, the newspaper reports.

Orey and Deputy Luke Berhalter came in contact and the officer's firearm discharged at point-blank range, her brother James Morgan told local Fox 5 News.

"He fired without warning, saying freeze, or anything. Then just as she saw the black smoke coming out the barrel she turned her body," Morgan said. "The bullet went through her chest and her left nipple, into her shoulder and out her pinkie."

The deputy reportedly told her, "I'm sorry, you startled me,"

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she was the first woman in the Navy to earn her wings of gold as a search and rescue swimmer, was released from hospital.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; leo; navy; navyvet; veteran
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To: george76


51 posted on 08/28/2012 5:12:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rawhide
The woman was very, very stupid for going outside at 10:30 at night after hearing noises. I am sorry she got shot, but she brought this upon herself. The deputy was looking for a person wearing a ski mask at night and suddenly comes face to face with a stranger. His reaction is not surprising considering the circumstances.

Are you out of your f-ing mind? Do you already wear a shackle on your ankle, to make it easier for any slave-master to put a chain on you? You are already a slave.

52 posted on 08/28/2012 5:15:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: BRK

Those who make excuses for thugs enable thugs.


53 posted on 08/28/2012 5:40:28 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: rawhide

Common sense says that the cop had ZERO reason to be in HER backyard and that the Navy Vet has EVERY reason to investigate to see what is going on.

She is a sheepdog, not a sheep. A risk of being a sheepdog is that you have to face the wolf, not cower in the corner.

In this case, she met a wolf in sheepdog’s clothing.


54 posted on 08/28/2012 5:43:25 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: rawhide
?The woman was very, very stupid for going outside at 10:30 at night after hearing noises. I am sorry she got shot, but she brought this upon herself. The deputy was looking for a person wearing a ski mask at night and suddenly comes face to face with a stranger. His reaction is not surprising considering the circumstances

Holy crapola! You win the Stupid-Of-The-Day-Award for that statement.

55 posted on 08/28/2012 5:54:43 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: DH

Over a large number of years I have had numerous encounters with police in many states and I have never encountered a rude officer. I have always been polite and explain if I going to make a movement that could be interpreted as threatening. I have had a number of experiences where the police went out of their way to help - on one ocassion they taxied me around to get an extra set of car keys to replace a set I had lost.


56 posted on 08/28/2012 6:08:39 AM PDT by monocle (Some polls are desi)
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To: george76
The deputy reportedly told her, "I'm sorry, you startled me,"

Wow... is her dog still alive?

It's a day or two later, this numbnut still drawing a paycheck?

57 posted on 08/28/2012 6:24:28 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: rawhide

“The woman was very, very stupid for going outside at 10:30 at night after hearing noises”

Yep, whenever I see a woman dressed in Hello Kitty pajamas, I immediately equate that with a bad guy wearing a ski mask.


58 posted on 08/28/2012 6:25:34 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: monocle

If they were gone before you arrived home, why were you ordered to leave before the police cleared your home? You should have been simply told not to disturb anything.


59 posted on 08/28/2012 6:35:49 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: rawhide

Spoken like a true slave. The servants should not be out unless the master gives permission. Should she kiss his boots because he did not shoot her again for her brashness?


60 posted on 08/28/2012 6:43:45 AM PDT by sport
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To: R. Scott

How could one know until the whole house was cleared?


61 posted on 08/28/2012 6:47:17 AM PDT by monocle (Some polls are desi)
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To: rawhide

The only stupid one is you. The woman went into her own yard, something she had every right to do, and was shot by a LEO who had no business and no legal right to be on her property. What kind of an idiot(you, presumably)would blame this woman and say she got what she deserved? This so called law officer should be tried, convicted of felonious assault and put away for the maximum sentence and forever barred from holding another LEO position.


62 posted on 08/28/2012 6:47:50 AM PDT by calex59
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To: rawhide

I would encourage my wife to take the 12 gauge if she did go out, but it depends on where you live. She had every right to go into her own yard at night or any other time. As for your stupid statement that a LEO saw a “stranger” and shot her, the only stranger in that yard was the LEO you frickin’ idiot, it was HER yard.


63 posted on 08/28/2012 6:50:10 AM PDT by calex59
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To: rawhide

You should wake up (come to ?) this morning and be completely ashamed of that asinine post.


64 posted on 08/28/2012 7:02:44 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: nvscanman

They’re escalating from shooting dogs to shooting taxpayers.


65 posted on 08/28/2012 7:39:50 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimeticare Iddio!!!!!!)
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To: rawhide

Excuse me, but people have the right to go IN THEIR OWN BACK YARD for any reason.

Damn idiot flatfoot should be fired and sued into bankruptcy.

You JBT boot-lickers here will never ever blame stupidity when it comes from the cops, willya?


66 posted on 08/28/2012 7:51:31 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimeticare Iddio!!!!!!)
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To: rawhide

Look in the mirror...then you’ll see the only one very stupid here.


67 posted on 08/28/2012 7:57:48 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimeticare Iddio!!!!!!)
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To: rawhide

A statist coward who worships government thuggery seems more like it.


68 posted on 08/28/2012 8:02:02 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimeticare Iddio!!!!!!)
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To: Progov

Tell that to the woman who almost lost her life.


69 posted on 08/28/2012 8:03:56 AM PDT by sport
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To: Progov

The shooting was entirely preventable if the idiot shooter kept his finger off the trigger. His decision wounded an innocent.

He needs to be serving time, as any one of us would if we shot an innocent.

There is only one victim in this case, not two.


70 posted on 08/28/2012 8:58:36 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: rawhide

Yes.
She has a shotgun and knows how to use it.
And she has children to protect.
And living in a rural area the deputy is only 20 minutes away at best.


71 posted on 08/28/2012 9:08:32 AM PDT by glyptol
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To: rawhide

“The woman was very, very stupid for going outside at 10:30 at night after hearing noises. I am sorry she got shot, but she brought this upon herself.

The deputy was looking for a person wearing a ski mask at night and suddenly comes face to face with a stranger. His reaction is not surprising considering the circumstances.”

So, she was supposed to know those noises might be a cop tha will kill her due to his incompetence?? Cop should be going to prison for this, manslaughter at the minimum.


72 posted on 08/28/2012 9:26:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: DTogo

I noticed that too. Amazing how even the journalist tries to exonerate the officer from blame.


73 posted on 08/28/2012 9:30:34 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: nvscanman

“Yet another knuckle draggin badgemonkey too stupid to
remember to keep his booger hook of the bang switch”

You are master of words, Thank you for making me smile today.


74 posted on 08/28/2012 9:36:11 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: BRK

That’s a bunch of BS.

Recently, sometime in the last 5 or 10 years the cops have come to the conclusion that it’s ‘us vs. them’. And the ‘them’ is the typical law abiding citizen.

Cops are no longer to be trusted, let alone be our friends.

They are ‘the gang of blue suited thugs’ who must, by law, be called in certain situations, but those who are able to should wait until that situation is completely resolved before the call is made. The ‘blue suited thugs’, who are really just historians, can then come an make record of what happened.

No situation exists that can’t be made worse by calling the police.


75 posted on 08/28/2012 9:42:05 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: CodeToad

Since the victim is not dead, a manslaughter charge would be inappropriate.

Assault with a deadly weapon, trespassing, criminal negligence, etc. on the other hand....


76 posted on 08/28/2012 9:57:03 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: rawhide
Here's your flag...


77 posted on 08/28/2012 10:20:16 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Quit poking holes in the life raft!)
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To: rawhide

Did you for get the /sarc tag?

If not: when are we allowed to go out on OUR Own property?


78 posted on 08/28/2012 11:00:06 AM PDT by HammerT (The Obama Recession, you bone it you own it.)
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To: MasterGunner01
Here in CT, we have this POS father-son cop duo....son just got a light sentence for DUI driving after a day of drinking...kills a teenager riding his bicycle home. Cops arrive at the scene....one who *takes over* the scene is the *daddy* of the drunk cop. Somehow avoids a Breathalyzer for his kid and takes him home. Since the cover-up was so blatant, State Police took over the investigation [our Staties are no angels].

Nepotism probably helped kill Henry Dang.

This immigrant family is without a son....the thin blue line gets thinner. I love that the killer-cop is separated from the general population in prison. How lovely. How convenient.

79 posted on 08/28/2012 11:38:18 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: george76
[San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore] said the deputies thought Orey’s open gate looked suspicious, so they went into her backyard. The deputies ran into Orey, and one of them had a “spontaneous reaction.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/calif-police-respond-to-womans-911-call-and-then-accidentally-shoot-her/

Spontaneous Reaction > Training and Experience.

You know, the training and experience that make their testimony trump yours in court.

80 posted on 08/28/2012 11:43:27 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: monocle

You said they were gone. Maybe you should carry.


81 posted on 08/28/2012 1:10:53 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

I don’t understand what your logic is. They were gone when I got home how would a gun have helped unless guns can stop ghosts. I am a very strong supporter of the right to bear arms, but I don’t believe I have the right to tell others that they should carry. I resent anyone, particularly the government, telling me what I can and cannot do.


82 posted on 08/28/2012 1:35:16 PM PDT by monocle (Some polls are desi)
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To: rawhide
Let me ask you a question: If you are at work at 10:30 at night, and your wife calls you and tells you she hears some noises outside, would you tell her to go outside, and check it out?

What if you had went outside instead Cowboy? I would bet if this had been happening at Noon the same results would have happened because the office was either paniced or startled and got off a Barney shot. It could have also been a kid coming home from work at Mickey'D's. Stupid of the kid then as well huh?

Believe it or not many women are firearm trained for self defense. If she had paniced & shot the uniformed officer outside her home thinking he was a burglar would you be here defending her? Somehow I seriously doubt it.

She thought her Ex was outside her home and felt safe enough to go check. That's why she went outside. Now obviously she was not scared of the EX as she would have not went outside right?

One of the most basic & fundamental rules in firearm safety is BE CERTAIN OF YOUR TARGET!!! The blame falls on the officer. 100%

83 posted on 08/28/2012 1:51:16 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe; rawhide

What was Barney Fife’s finger doing on the trigger, with no targets present, in the first place?

The cop that shot her needs to go to jail. The remaining cops in that department need a LOT more training, starting with “DON’T TOUCH THE EFFIN’ TRIGGER UNTIL YOU HAVE A TARGET AND ARE READY TO SHOOT!”


84 posted on 08/28/2012 2:15:35 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: rawhide

Bull. She was in her own yard. The deputy did not belong there.


85 posted on 08/28/2012 2:25:16 PM PDT by eleb
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To: Little Ray

Yep a lot of firearm rules were not followed. Thus the results as reported. You can have a weapon drawn and even in a pre aim ready to shoot holding posture. But keep the finger off the trigger so you don’t accidentally shot someone nor yourself.


86 posted on 08/28/2012 2:32:00 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: rawhide
The woman was very, very stupid for going outside at 10:30 at night after hearing noises. I am sorry she got shot, but she brought this upon herself. The deputy was looking for a person wearing a ski mask at night and suddenly comes face to face with a stranger. His reaction is not surprising considering the circumstances.

This is the stupidest post I've seen since the arrest of that woman for videoing a cop while in her own yard.

87 posted on 08/28/2012 4:11:18 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: rawhide

Same cop comes into my backyard at 10:30 at night without knocking on my front door to notify me; is going to get real dead real quick, from ambush.


88 posted on 08/28/2012 7:02:48 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: rawhide

What you call common sense I just grew up calling YELLOW-BELLY COWARD. MY yard, my property, my constitutional rights, my call on who gets shot. Trespass is a crime and in the middle of the night, it is a shooting crime.


89 posted on 08/28/2012 7:13:20 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: monocle

If they were gone a firearm would have made no difference. It might have made you think about staying in your home.


90 posted on 08/29/2012 3:40:06 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Talisker

Some animals are “ more equal” than others......and when you add up the pay, bennies and pensions many LEO’s enjoy....society...We the People...have quite a bit invested in each.

The same local government s enabling it are not about to upset them?
Look what happens in Orange County , California....

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/politics&id=8790290


91 posted on 08/29/2012 3:53:12 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: R. Scott

Are you saying I should have gone on welfare? If you were implying I should moved, I would tell I was living in one of the more desirable areas in the continental USA.


92 posted on 08/29/2012 4:45:13 AM PDT by monocle (Some polls are desi)
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To: monocle

It doesn’t matter where you live. Burglaries and home invasions can happen anywhere.


93 posted on 08/29/2012 12:58:20 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: george76

The LOSER cop HAD HIS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER! It would have probably been fine to have the gun in his hand, pointed down. But NOT to put his finger on the trigger until he was READY to shoot! Poor training! SUE HIM AND THE CITY!


94 posted on 08/29/2012 1:14:34 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: george76

N.W.A. had it right.


95 posted on 08/29/2012 2:33:04 PM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: Talisker
There is ZERO reason not to have this equality, except the claim that an officer’s life is worth more than a civilian’s life. If it is - or if the law says it is - then let it be said OUT LOUD, for the public to hear.

Out loud? What do you mean by out loud? Are you kidding me Talisker?

It's been in the news, on the books and loudly proclaimed law for years. They are worth way more than us.

So much so that, just ACCIDENTALLY kill a police dog, yes, DOG, and see what happens!

96 posted on 08/29/2012 2:44:27 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Talisker

The husband of our niece on my wife’s side had to appear in court today because drug agents appeared in his driveway in an unmarked car without a license plate and refused to identify themselves or leave the premises. He fired a warning shot which was a big mistake, he was arrested and spent the night in jail and who knows what the final outcome will be. I suppose he is lucky not to have been shot dead. He lives at the end of a quarter mile of dirt road but the agents claimed they were on a public road because there is more than one house on the road. Actually everyone on that stretch belongs to the same family and the county does not maintain it. They drive up not only in an unmarked car but with no license plate visible and refuse to say who they are but he is at fault according to them. I say legalize the damned drugs and stop this crap if this is the best they can do. Let the idiots who want drugs destroy their own lives and stop destroying the lives of those who don’t use drugs on the pretense of fighting a war on drugs.


97 posted on 08/29/2012 6:38:12 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: MamaTexan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCyGymRvPQg


98 posted on 08/29/2012 7:00:51 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: rawhide; All

I think this guy Rawhide is just busting on all your asses and is laughing his off.

No one, and I mean no one can be that stupid!

Right Rawhide? Good joke though.... right? Rawhide?


99 posted on 08/29/2012 7:13:03 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: george76

God bless her. God please help us all. What have we done to ourselves?


100 posted on 08/29/2012 8:14:37 PM PDT by GBA
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