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“You Didn’t Build That” Isn’t Going Away: It doesn’t matter what Obama meant. Here’s why.
Slate ^ | August 30, 2012 | Rachael Larimore

Posted on 09/02/2012 7:40:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m surprised this came from Slate.


51 posted on 09/02/2012 9:11:38 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 63 days away.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America ? You didn’t BIRTH THAT !


52 posted on 09/02/2012 9:16:25 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: austinaero

And, remember, Sarah Palin never said she could see Russia from her house. She said that you can see part of Russia from a part of Alaska.

Tina Fey, impersonating Sarah Palin, said that she could see Russia from her house.

For the record, Big Diomede Island is Russian territory, while Little Diomede Island is part of Alaska. The two islands are a couple of miles apart. You can indeed see Big Diomede Island from Little Diomede Island.

Of course, what I just wrote is too nuanced for the liberals to understand. So, they go with the Tina Fey quote which is constantly incorrectly attributed to Sarah Palin.


53 posted on 09/02/2012 9:18:08 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: RedMDer
He didn’t just only mean that. He firmly believes it.
Everything was given to him.
His educational opportunities, his employment, his political offices.
He hasn’t accomplished anything but the attempt at dividing and destroying the USA. Even at that, he isn’t alone.


This mentality is especially prevalent in upper white collar occupations where lots of Ivies are.

If you have a silver spoon firmly in your mouth since birth, as do many of those upper middle class Ivy League folks, it's far easier to feel guilty about it than it is to recognize the tools & gifts that have been given, and to set a bar to achieve even higher for it.
54 posted on 09/02/2012 9:19:10 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: MNJohnnie

Well thank you Carmax for letting me know your political views, now I know who never to do business with

Right ! I bought a used car back in the spring. Came close to buying one from Carmax. Now, I’m really glad I didn’t.


55 posted on 09/02/2012 9:20:13 PM PDT by stevecmd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You didn’t build that!” is not going away and will outlive this execrable, archaic Communist, like so many other lines we associate with the Presidents of recent decades have outlived those guys, fair or not, but unlike most of them, as for example “Ich bin ein jelly donut”, it truly defines the core of the man, and unlike so many, as for example “a thousand points of light”, it wasn’t written by a hired hack writer but almost certainly originated from the infantile brain of the Marxist midget himself.


56 posted on 09/02/2012 9:30:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"... [the] infamous words “If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,” conservatives have hammered him for his disregard for small-business owners. And liberals have hammered back that Obama was taken out of context."

For four years I have had to sit here and listen to this oafish President Obama blather out absurdities, then watch swarms of liberal pundits race in front of a teevee camera on Sunday morning explaining that the President didn't mean what he said when he said what he did.

Plus, we're all jerks and racists for taking this stuttering slow thinker's statements out of context all the time.

Anyone not voting for Romney is a complete idiot and I hope they get run over by a dump truck.

57 posted on 09/02/2012 9:52:34 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Inspiring Quotes from Great World Leaders.

“Society does not consist of individuals, but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand.” — Karl Marx

“The yard, the cloth, the metals that now came out of the factory were the joint product of many workers through whose hands they had successfully to pass before they were ready. No one person could say of them: ‘I made that; this is my product.’” — Friedrich Engels

“All our lives we fought against exalting the individual, against the elevation of the single person, and long ago we were over and done with the business of a hero, and here it comes up again: the glorification of one personality. This is not good at all.” — Vladimir Lenin

“Comrades, we must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all.” — Nikita Khrushchev

“We must affirm anew the discipline of the Party, namely: (1) the individual is subordinate to the organization; (2) the minority is subordinate to the majority; (3) the lower level is subordinate to the higher level; and (4) the entire membership is subordinate to the Central Committee. Whoever violates these articles of discipline disrupts Party unity. — Mao Zedong

“If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that; (the federal government) made that happen.” — Barack Obama


58 posted on 09/02/2012 9:52:51 PM PDT by garjog
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To: zencycler

Obama’s speech in Roanoke reflects his awareness that he is the first beneficiary of affirmative action for presidents. He’s telling us that this was OK because in his view, we’ve all gotten things we didn’t really earn. Except most of us know it’s a crock. We have to pay for our mistakes. No one’s waiting to offer us admission to Harvard Law or knocking out every competitor we face.

I work with several beneficiaries of more mundane AA. Some of them don’t seem to realize that others are not given the continued opportunities - and passes - that they are. (One guy took a job he had no experience in, was paid to move, then quit a few months later to move to CA because his wife wanted to have their baby near her family. He got a job in CA & now he wants to come back East to a job with the same place he quit after they’d moved him. No concept that he appears to be a self-absorbed flake). Others do realize that they are being given opportunities because of AA, but they fear trying to make it in a world of colorblind equality. It’s too hard. 95% of blacks support Obama because he’ll perpetuate AA.


59 posted on 09/02/2012 9:55:57 PM PDT by Belle22
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just want to point out that first, this Slate article is really good and worth reading in its entirety, and second, because it’s by the managing editor of Slate (a leftist rag if ever there was one), it’s a good choice to share with your friends, family etc. who will actually read Slate articles when they wouldn’t touch a Wall St. Journal article. I shared this on my Facebook page so all my lefty California friends can read it.


60 posted on 09/02/2012 9:56:23 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: Steely Tom

Isn’t this called a Freudian slip?


61 posted on 09/02/2012 10:31:04 PM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Keeping this meme alive is going to psych Obama out and force him to read off the Teleprompter rather than risk ad libbing and doing it again. He’s jinxed himself.


62 posted on 09/02/2012 10:46:40 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
On reply to that article needs to be reprinted.
Andrew_M_Garland

Frédéric Bastiat: "Socialism confuses the distinction between government and society. Every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all."

  Socialists also confuse the role of government. Whenever government provides a service, Socialists proclaim that only government can provide that service, and we owe our souls to the government because it is kind enough to provide that service rather than let us die.

  -- -- 

Bob: You put out the fire. I can't thank you enough.

Official: Hand over the keys. We own that house now. It would have burned to the ground without us.

Bob: But, I already paid taxes for your help.

Official: I apologize. You have a point. Instead, pay us in tax half of what you produce. That is for our effort in providing all of our vital services.  

-- --  

Even if someone protects you, you don't owe them everything. You can usually arrange a better deal than that. 

 One human doesn't own another one because he supplies an essential service. We aren't each other's slaves. Our obligations of mutual cooperation are satisfied when the transaction is complete. One or the other can't come around the next day saying he wants more. You might as well base society on the gun; give me more or I will shoot you. And, that is a good deal, better than being dead. 

 Government usually has a formal monopoly on force. That doesn't confer the right to make the population into slaves. From time to time, governments have asserted this right, and it always ends badly. 

If Bastiat were still around, he would need to write anything new about Obama. He would just be able to refer to what he wrote about socialism in the 1800s.

Obama and those like him seem to believe that everything you produce above what a lone hunter/gatherer could belongs to "society" and therefore to government. If the government allows you to keep more than a couple tubers and a handful of semiripe berries, it is only because of its benevolence and not because you have a right to your labor. That is what Obama meant and what we must fight every day. If it was a "gaffe", it was one only in the sense that Obama revealed more if his true beliefs than he meant to.

63 posted on 09/02/2012 10:57:42 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Cardinal Dolan's DNC prayer is titled "Ritus exorcizandi obsessor a daemonio")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is projecting all of his successes due solely through affirmative action apply to those of us who have to make it without the benefits of affirmative action. Obama and his wife only know success through affirmative action.


64 posted on 09/02/2012 11:21:38 PM PDT by monocle (Some polls are desi)
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To: redpoll
...the workers will rise up

My first college counselor told me that when "they" begin to march, he wanted to be right there with them. I got a new counselor. I always wondered where he thought all those marching people were going AND most importantly, WHO would be leading them all.

Sounds like the Good Lord has left some people to their own delusions.

65 posted on 09/02/2012 11:48:37 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: austinaero
the leftists have twisted Sarah’s “I can see Russia from my house”

Sarah didn't say that. It came from a Saturday Nite Live skit.

It has been repeated so many times that most think she did say it.

66 posted on 09/02/2012 11:58:04 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: TIElniff

Good post, and the last sentence gives a good explanation about why Zero is wrong.


67 posted on 09/03/2012 2:00:56 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: Belle22

In the X-ring. Dead on target.


68 posted on 09/03/2012 2:11:57 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Fred Nerks; little jeremiah; onyx

MARX & LENIN, STALIN & MAO: THAT'S HOW I ROLL

69 posted on 09/03/2012 2:42:00 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: redpoll; PGalt
Famous Cherokee warrior Elizabeth Warren said the same thing last year, I believe.
Precisely. And altho the rest of your post is spot on, this is IMHO the real opportunity in the 2012 context.

Obamaites can obfuscate until the cow come home, but two facts cannot be evaded:

  1. Obama was saying the same thing as Fauxcahantas notoriously recently said and, as the audio clip clearly documents,

  2. Obama was preaching to the choir when he said it.
One day, at least according to the Marxists, the workers will rise up and kill the capitalists, thereby taking the wealth that they created through their labor. As my prof used to point out to the delight of those of us with more pedestrian values, good and bad have different meanings based on who you are. When the workers kill the capitalists, it won’t be good for the capitalists, but it will be good a catastrophe for the workers.
There have been rebellions of this sort, in Russia and many other places. They are disastrous for the workers for one simple reason: It took leadership to assemble the elements of a successful (i.e., socially beneficial) business, and it takes leadership to keep adapting it to changing circumstances. And circumstances do change.

We struggle to understand why journalism is in the pockets of the Democratic Party, but it the reason is actually obvious. For reasons having little or nothing to do with the public interest (and everything to do with the very different proposition of interesting the public), Journalism is about bad news. Consequently journalism is really criticism. The more assiduously the journalist seeks to “make a difference,” the more s/he engages in second guessing of the decisions made by those who do socially necessary things. That can make the journalist seem important and knowledgeable - and since journalists are fascinated with creating appearances, that is good enough for the journalist. It can even gain control of a country for the journalist (e.g., Mussolini’s Italy).

But second guessing is no substitute leadership. Let your “worker” who “did" build that try to continue its operation in the absence of the leadership which “didn’t build that” and she will learn soon enough what that leadership was actually working quite effectively accomplishing, and what he was preventing. The Marxist idea of killing the capitalist is actually nothing more than killing messenger who tells you that the sum of your demands for credit for “doing that” is greater than the value of what has actually been accomplished.

The profit or loss of a business depends quite critically on seemingly modest expenses. The under appreciated problem being that profit/loss is a small difference between two large numbers representing income and expenses. Thus, a 5% increase in expenses (very “reasonable” wage increase) and a “reasonable” 5% reduction in working hours (thus, of production and revenue) can throw a modestly profitable business into a crisis.

But of course in reality this election is about one fundamental question which the Obama Administration raises - do those numbers actually matter? You and I know in our bones that they do. Obama is behaving precisely as if they did not. And every election year we are reminded of just how many people are capable of believing that. The numbers may not matter, but the reality which they describe does. Just not to a superficial person such as a journalist. Until there isn’t any food on the shelves.


70 posted on 09/03/2012 2:46:33 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I want it in a CATCHY COUNTRY MUSIC TUNE BY A NAME BRAND CONSERVATIVE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND SOMEHOW WE CAN GET IT ON THE CHARTS AND IN POPULAR CULTURE.

It could be simply entitled "You Didn't Build That" or "You Ain't Done Built This". Something. Anything. Particularly in a "Take This Job and Shove It" kind of irreverent way. Why, for crying out loud,it is a big hit song for September and October just DYING to be written, recorded and hitting the airwaves and SNS/streaming.


71 posted on 09/03/2012 3:31:51 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Donate, & walk precincts, not for "Parties", but for individual, principled "Candidates" (& for FR)
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To: PhilDragoo
"Вы не строили это." -- Barack "Lenin" Obama
72 posted on 09/03/2012 3:38:05 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Donate, & walk precincts, not for "Parties", but for individual, principled "Candidates" (& for FR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“And liberals have hammered back that Obama was taken out of context. To be fair, this is the full quote:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

Lie.

“I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

That’s the context. Snarky, in your face trash talk. Romney has made sure that the full text is included.


73 posted on 09/03/2012 4:45:20 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: TIElniff

Thanks for the Atlas quote.


74 posted on 09/03/2012 4:59:07 AM PDT by magellan
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To: PhilDragoo

75 posted on 09/03/2012 5:00:36 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Red Badger

“Islam and Marxism have a whole lot in common.......”

Ya....evidently it’s on full display already...down in Charlotte

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/an_islamic_festival_to_jump_start_the_dnc.html


76 posted on 09/03/2012 5:05:40 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: GOPJ
Rachael Larimore appears to be the first liberal member of the press able to understand both sides. Rachael actually ‘empathized’ with us.
Very strange - stranger yet that Slate ran it...
(First, sorry for the Day Late Comment)

If you think that's something, you better sit down for this.
Saturday and Sunday I read two articles that were actually 'nice' to Romney.

They were in the --- New York Times! Honest 'Injun'. I'm not kidding.
I had to double check the URL to make sure I was at the right website. And yep, it was the NYT.

Now if the New York Times will print something even remotely nice about any republican, let alone Romney, Obama has a BIG problem.

77 posted on 09/03/2012 5:06:08 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Honorary Serb

Eat your peas!


78 posted on 09/03/2012 5:39:13 AM PDT by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The actual full quote includes him chiding business owners for thinking they built that with their wits and hard work, when, says Obama, lots of folks are smart and work hard.

That is the damning full context and it is even worse than the quote the Obamacan’ts want to try to rewrite.

But of course they never acknowledge that context.


79 posted on 09/03/2012 5:45:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The actual full quote includes him chiding business owners for thinking they built that with their wits and hard work, when, says Obama, lots of folks are smart and work hard.

That is the damning full context and it is even worse than the quote the Obamacan’ts want to try to rewrite.

But of course they never acknowledge that context.


80 posted on 09/03/2012 5:45:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes. During the Korean War, My Dad was stationed in the Aleutians PRECISELY because STALIN’S RUSSIA was within striking distance. Alaska was once a Russian Colony, and don’t think for one minute that Ol’ Uncle Joe wasn’t fully aware of that.

Don’t think that about the current rulers of Russia either.


81 posted on 09/03/2012 5:59:41 AM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“You can actually see Russia, from land, here in Alaska.”

Thank you for pointing out the actual Sarah Palin quote. You would not believe the number of times that I have had to correct the idiots that I work with. When I do all I get is blank stares, a brief pause and then they go back to their original conversation about how stupid they think Sarah Palin is. Within a few minutes they will repeat the Tina Fey quote. It is like I am living in the real life version of Idiocracy, the movie.


82 posted on 09/03/2012 6:06:03 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Signalman
Obama didn't say, "You didn't build those", meaning roads and bridges. He said, "You didn't built that", meaning your business.

But wait, isn't The One the SMARTEST person ever to be President? Surely he would be proficient at basic grammar, no? But then maybe he was out in the Choom Gang van, or whatever it was called, during English class.

I guess we can now surmise that he wasn't one of the 14 editors selected to the Harvard Law Review based on first year grades and a writing competition submission; or the next 20 who were selected based on the writing competition submission alone. I guess he was one of the 46 selected on a discretionary basis.

83 posted on 09/03/2012 6:18:13 AM PDT by illinifan (The Left doesn't want you to be upwardly mobile. They want you to be angry and disaffected)
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To: redpoll

“Famous Cherokee warrior Elizabeth Warren said the same thing last year, I believe.”

She did say the same thing, and Rush (rightly) took her over the coals for it. Otherwise, not much play, but it does fire up their base.

Since the Dems don’t see a downside (i.e., Rush and maybe some other talker pointing it out is not a downside), they figured that Obama would get a free pass on it - maybe because they thought that Romney would campaign like McCain and not try to actually win.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


84 posted on 09/03/2012 7:05:26 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: TIElniff
That’s what missing in this whole discussion of Obama’s about “You didn’t build that by yourself”: Every inventor of something new worked within an existing social and economic circumstance, and did what no one else did. That is why it is foolish to insist that the inventor didn’t do it by himself. Instead, he worked within the existing circumstances and did what no one else did. In that sense he did do it by himself in spite of what Obama thinks.

Bingo.....

If roads and bridges are what "made" everybody's business, why then doesn't every body have a successful business? everybody

85 posted on 09/03/2012 7:14:26 AM PDT by machman
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Obama didn't brew Obama beer! (He just named it!)


Obama didn't win the championship bb game! (Sarah did!)


Obama did not bowl better than the dog! (That he ate!)










86 posted on 09/03/2012 7:54:19 AM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------ GO AHEAD - MAKE MY SPAGHETTI -------- ----------- ----- -------- ----------)
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Obama didn't brew Obama beer! (He just named it!)


Obama didn't win the championship bb game! (Sarah did!)


Obama did not bowl better than the puppy! (That he ate!)










87 posted on 09/03/2012 7:56:19 AM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------ GO AHEAD - MAKE MY SPAGHETTI -------- ----------- ----- -------- ----------)
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Obama: Limited Gov’t That Preserves Free Markets ‘Doesn’t Work. It Has Never Worked’
CNS News | December 7, 2011 | Terence P. Jeffrey
Posted on 09/03/2012 7:16:24 AM PDT by Son House
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2925993/posts


88 posted on 09/03/2012 8:01:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: oliviasdad

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“Well - it sure feels like a recession!”

now in 2011-2012 ALLSTATE TV ads:

“ALLSTATE protects you from Mayhem!”

-

Avoid GEICO Insurance too! Warren Buffet was/is a huge Obama supporter!

Try: GRUNDY car insurance - special low rates and pre-agreed coverage on classic or daily-driver vehicles

(GRUNDY also covers homes, boats, etc.)

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89 posted on 09/03/2012 8:10:17 AM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------ GO AHEAD - MAKE MY SPAGHETTI -------- ----------- ----- -------- ----------)
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To: austinaero

Sarah never said that. Tina Fey said that.


90 posted on 09/03/2012 8:10:56 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
    

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back.  They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own.  You didn’t get there on your own.  I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart.  There are a lot of smart people out there.  It must be because I worked harder than everybody else.  Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.  (Applause.)       

  If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.  Somebody else made that happen. 

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I've always thought the entire context of what Obama said is MUCH, MUCH worse than the portion we've seen played in the media over and over again. Obama WAS NOT takn out of context and his argument was just offensive. The Romney campaign needs to run these clips in ads from here until election day. What's even worse than what Obama said, mocking, condescending, nasty way that he said it. He definitley doesn't come off as a nice guy.

91 posted on 09/03/2012 8:15:58 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: GOPJ; newzjunkey

Rachael Larimore is Slate’s managing editor.


92 posted on 09/03/2012 8:21:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: In God I trust

Exactly. Who does CarMax thinks buys cars from them. It’s not Obama’s voters.


93 posted on 09/03/2012 8:22:41 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: austinaero

That’s Tina Fey’s quote, not Sarah’s.


94 posted on 09/03/2012 8:27:42 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: EscapedDutch

http://www.carmax.com/enus/corporatecontact/default.html


95 posted on 09/03/2012 8:28:09 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: illinifan

Chauncey Gardner.


96 posted on 09/03/2012 8:29:55 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: sanjuanbob

Great movie.

Imagine Chauncey dismantling the Liar-in-Chief in a debate.


97 posted on 09/03/2012 8:55:07 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

As an example, look what’s happened to South Africa since apartheid ended. I’m not defending apartheid, by any means. But confiscating the property of the producers and turning it over to the non-producers is a non-winning strategy. They should have ended apartheid without the confiscation.


98 posted on 09/03/2012 9:33:00 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

It never was about racial injustice it was about seizing a strategic, mineral rich, wealthy country. The ANC were and are a communist front group, and a murderous one, not that there is any other kind when you get right down to it. Black Africans have always been regarded as mere cannon fodder by communists and continue to be. Westerners have become preoccupied with doing the right thing and being nice. The ultimate end game will be far worse for white South Africans than it ever was for blacks under apartheid. It will be to the detriment of Africans, Africa and the world. But at least we get to feel good due to the symbolism.


99 posted on 09/03/2012 9:43:33 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rachael Larimore? Managing editor? You gotta be kidding me. Maybe we’ve slipped into an alternate reality or something...spooky.


100 posted on 09/03/2012 10:42:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T. Jefferson)
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