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Romney Says He Likes Parts of 'Obamacare'
Austin Statesman ^ | 9/9/12 | AP

Posted on 09/09/2012 7:01:46 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas

"Of course there are a number of things that I like in health care reform that I'm going to put in place," he said in an interview broadcast Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." ''One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage."

Romney also said he would allow young adults to keep their coverage under their parents' health-insurance.

Those provisions have been two of the more popular parts of Obama's Affordable Care Act.

"I say we're going to replace Obamacare. And I'm replacing it with my own plan," Romney said. "And even in Massachusetts when I was governor, our plan there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people."

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To: Gene Eric
Heck, just last week, there was a bunch of ABO folks who were actually promising that Romney had "evolved" and changed his views over time, and would govern as a Conservative.

Of course, they are no where to be found on this thread.

101 posted on 09/09/2012 9:08:15 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: rollo tomasi

No incorrect. Those are wants not needs.


102 posted on 09/09/2012 9:09:01 AM PDT by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: JayGalt
maybe someone here has a better idea how to make Mitt feel the heat.

Lots of people here do. Problem is, we've got too many people who can't be shifted from the idea of 'voting for the R' to listen.

103 posted on 09/09/2012 9:12:29 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: babygene
Having a Pre Existing Condition is not an issue if you maintain your Insurance Coverage with no more than a 30 day period of being Uninsured.

I am 59 now. I have been paying for my own Health Insurance since I was 18 through my Employer. When I took early Retirement, I moved to my Wife's Health Insurance because it was cheaper than the Retirement Coverage offered by my previous Employer.

I contracted Leukemia two years after I Retired. Now that my Wife was laid off, we are paying $1300 a month for COBRA Coverage. If she finds a Job, the new Insurance Company cannot refuse to cover me since I have maintained my Insurance with no interruptions.

The way to fix the Pre Existing issue is for a Defined Risk Pool being established, just as Drivers with terrible driving records can get Assigned Risk Liability Policies on their Vehicles. The Insurance Pool is outside the regular Car Insurance System and Rates are determined within that specific group.

The problem that Liberals have is they want to change everything rather than focusing on the problem of a minority of participants. They pulled the same thing when the Medicare Drug Benefit was put together. President Bush wanted a plan to help poor Seniors, but the Democrats insisted on the Plan covering everyone, including Bill Gates. It is all about control and it is nothing about helping people. Making the simple complex if you will.

104 posted on 09/09/2012 9:12:33 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: linn37

So people should go hungry, cold, and naked under your Brave New World but have access to health care subsidies? Where is your compassion of government expansion concerning these NEEDS?


105 posted on 09/09/2012 9:13:06 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: MestaMachine

We don’t have to rely on the article, a week or so ago he said he was proud of RomneyCare. At first Romney said he would give states a waiver from ObamaCare. Next he said he would repeal it. Then he said he would repeal and replace it. I have not heard him say what parts he would change only the parts he would keep. Are there any parts he disagrees with if so what? ObamaCare is also a financial issue what would he do about the effect on the economy? I guess we have to put him in office to find out what he is going to do.


106 posted on 09/09/2012 9:15:11 AM PDT by brightright
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To: linn37

Btw, none one is ask if they would like to be given life, lol. Those wants are actually needs if you are truly honest with yourself.


107 posted on 09/09/2012 9:16:14 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: linn37

Btw, none one is ask if they would like to be given life, lol. Those wants are actually needs if you are truly honest with yourself.


108 posted on 09/09/2012 9:16:14 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Romney is a loser. He has made his contribution towards the death of our Republic by insuring the victory of “The Divine One.”


109 posted on 09/09/2012 9:16:41 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: albie

If this were life insurance, would theco pany be forced to insure people after they passed away?


110 posted on 09/09/2012 9:18:12 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: all the best
Yeah I too will vote for him knowing full well that under Romney government will continue to grow and we will still be headed to hell on earth. What a choice.

It's a Hobson's Choice. You get choice between pancreatic cancer or .45 slug to the temple.

I guess it's best to choose the cancer, since at least you get time to put your affairs in order.

111 posted on 09/09/2012 9:20:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
“Of course there are a number of things that I like in health care reform that I'm going to put in place,” he said in an interview broadcast Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” ‘’One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage.”

Romney also said he would allow young adults to keep their coverage under their parents’ health-insurance.

Those provisions have been two of the more popular parts of Obama’s Affordable Care Act.

Boo Hiss ! [/sarc]

I'd also add the ability to get health care insurance from any provider just like auto insurance.

112 posted on 09/09/2012 9:20:40 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg; JayGalt

Since the Primaries are over, you either Vote for the (R) or for the (D). If you Vote for anyone but the (R), you give the Election to the (D).

That is why we have Primary Elections, to hopefully get the (R) we would love to Vote for. Unfortunately, I didn’t convince enough people to Vote for my favorite (R) Mr. Gingrich and other Conservatives didn’t convince enough people to Vote for their favorite Candidate either.

Republican Voters made their choice in the Primaries, so we either support the (R) Candidate or Obama wins and the America we know and love is a goner.

There is nothing to argue about here, there are only two outcomes left to us. No brag, just fact.

Que sera, sera...


113 posted on 09/09/2012 9:26:35 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: usconservative

If you have an accident or condition that lands you in the hopital for a few days, you cover your investment. All insurance is a gamble.


114 posted on 09/09/2012 9:29:00 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (I'm starting a business. Who's going to build it for me?)
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To: snarkytart

Its a tougher decision here in Pennsylvania but I can’t bring myself to vote for more of the same old stuff in a Republican package.

I can vote for some other GOP candidates down the ticket like US Senate or PA Attorney General and I will.

But not for Romney.


115 posted on 09/09/2012 9:33:29 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Folks, this presidential election is a wash. I’ve been saying this for months and this is why I’m giving money to Congressional races and voting for Goode for president.

Because — seriously — Romney would be WORSE for America than Zer0.

Hear me out.

Many people, on FR and in-person, try to get me onboard: “Oh well. Looks like Romney’s our candidate. I’ll have to hold my nose and vote for him, like I voted for McCain.and all the other RINOs the GOP have shoved at us. After all, if he’s only 80-90% like Obama then he’s at least a little better than him, right?”

WRONG. and here’s why.

If Myth does 90% of what Zer0 does, he will do it WITH AN R NEXT TO HIS NAME.

What does this do? Well, Republicans in Congress who would otherwise balk at lib legislation if it were proposed by Zer0 WILL SIGN ON TO THE LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT IS PROPOSED BY THE LEADER OF THE GOP.

Imagine: Obamneycare 2.0, amnesty, “tax fairness”, gutting the military and so much more ALL SAILING THROUGH CONGRESS because a “Republican” is at the helm of America. Contrast this with a second Obozo presidency where the GOP will dig in their heels and at least try to fight.

Yeah, I said it. An Obummer presidency is better for America than a Myth presidency (in the way that a cowpie sandwich is better than a meal of broken glass). You think Ryan will make it better? Since when has a VP done ANYTHING to substantially change the nature of a Presidency? Be sure to give an example.

So. Here’s my deal. Fight like hell for a better Congress. Stick a fork in the Presidency for 2012, though... it’s DONE. I appreciate that my fellow FRiends may not agree. If you have a compelling argument against my logic, let me know.


116 posted on 09/09/2012 9:42:33 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I read that Romney "liked parts of Obamacare" and I nearly fell backwards out of my computer chair. My Cream of Wheat congealed in my stomach. Is he nuts?????

Is there NO way we can rid ourselves of America-hating Democraps and RINOs? Is Romney the BEST the GOP could come up with? I think they could have done a whole lot better, but they always pick a loser. First McCain and now this jerk who doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

I don't know about the polls, I suspect they are biased for the most part, but I heard on the radio this morning that OZero gained a few poll points now. I simply cannot believe that, confronted with the many destructive traitorous things OZero has already done, there exist dangerously stupid zombies who refuse to look up and smell the facts and who will eagerly vote for him again.

I found myself wishing there was a United States of Stupid for those libtards, and leave the rest of the nation alone for the sane.

117 posted on 09/09/2012 9:46:46 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: brightright

Thank you for making my point...albeit backhandedly. My point was less about Romney and more that life does not happen in 30 second soundbites and cherry-picked quotes which is ALL you get from today’s so-called media...and most of what you get is the author’s slant and rampant speculation without any objectivity whatsoever. They say what they want you to see and hear. I say read the transcripts. Listen to the words in toto on youtube or somewhere. Don’t jump to conclusions by having someone else tell you what to think about ANYTHING. Especially when it comes from the left, which is what many on this thread have done.
In other words, think for yourself. It ain’t that hard to do.


118 posted on 09/09/2012 9:48:07 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: VictoryGal

I simply refuse to vote third party and give this election to obama who will appoint at LEAST two more justices to the Supreme court. If that happens, we are dead in the water. I will vote every single Conservative down ticket, but I will NOT chance another four years of obama, an avowed Constitution hater and enemy of America. I just won’t.


119 posted on 09/09/2012 9:55:16 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: MestaMachine

Yeah voting for Bush and getting Roberts on SCOTUS has worked out so well for us.


120 posted on 09/09/2012 9:56:49 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Cherry Picking for the bed wetters and Paulbots. It’s time we get past this and start working to make sure that not only does Romney get into the White House, but that we control both houses of Congress.
Anything less is not acceptable. Fight over the bones later.


121 posted on 09/09/2012 9:59:12 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

This is why it’s important to replace Congress, so that Romney is controlled.


122 posted on 09/09/2012 10:01:00 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: MestaMachine

Romney’s judge appointments in MA were liberal, why would he be different as president.


123 posted on 09/09/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: MestaMachine; brightright

> My point was less about Romney and more that life does not happen in 30 second soundbites and cherry-picked quotes which is ALL you get from today’s so-called media...and most of what you get is the author’s slant and rampant speculation without any objectivity whatsoever.

I am VERY familiar with Mr. Romney and have been following his career since Massachusetts. The only constant about him is that his flipfloppiness gives “Lurch” Kerry a run for his money. And not only is he light on specifics of what he would do as President, The only things he is specific about — like healthcare — only reinforce his history of flipflopping.

If he’s elected, get ready for Republicans to OWN Obamneycare, Amnesty, and more.

Count on it.


124 posted on 09/09/2012 10:04:01 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Lazamataz

That may be your choice but others may not want to put themselves and their loved ones through the pain and suffering and end up with the same result. You are right it is a horrible choice.


125 posted on 09/09/2012 10:04:42 AM PDT by brightright
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To: Steamburg

Do you honestly think a Republican controlled congress will go against a Republican president.


126 posted on 09/09/2012 10:04:45 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: surfer

Please think back to how we got roberts in the first place. mcccain, the traitor and the dem blocking of REAL Conservatives whose names were nominated. That is why we need to win the Senate huge.


127 posted on 09/09/2012 10:05:36 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Nextrush
It's just a textbook example of what's wrong with Republicans. They accept the premise of the Left's argument and then try to "conservatize" liberal policies.

Obamacare needs to be repealed in its entirety - if people need insurance to cover pre-existing conditions the market will always find a way.

128 posted on 09/09/2012 10:05:57 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: MestaMachine

I agree which is why I will be voting against Obummer and circling in Romney but will not be too excited if Romney wins.


129 posted on 09/09/2012 10:06:10 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: crosshairs; St_Thomas_Aquinas
This is why it’s important to replace Congress, so that Romney is controlled.

BEARS REPEATING

130 posted on 09/09/2012 10:08:26 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: svcw; Steamburg

> Do you honestly think a Republican controlled congress will go against a Republican president.

This is my biggest problem with a Romney presidency. If he does 80% of what Zer0 does, he will be the defacto leader of the GOP, and as such will not be appreciably fought by even a GOP congress.

Not a nickel will I spend on Romney’s campaign. It’s all going to tight Congressional races.


131 posted on 09/09/2012 10:11:53 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Jane Long
Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, also said he would offset his proposed tax cuts by closing loopholes for high income taxpayers. "We're not going to have high-income people pay less of the tax burden than they pay today. That's not what's going to happen

Simplifying the tax code by closing loopholes is a GOOD thing. This is what conservatives have been calling for for years.

Overall, Romney will likely neither raise nor lower rates on high-income people. But he will lower corporate taxes.

132 posted on 09/09/2012 10:13:22 AM PDT by what's up
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To: rollo tomasi

We MUST take the Senate out from under the control of mccain, graham, and mcconnell. I will fight tooth and nail to see this goal accomplished.


133 posted on 09/09/2012 10:14:37 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: MestaMachine

You raise a fair point, but I need to balance that with the damage Romney can do as leader of the GOP when he’s president, his Zer0-like policies sailing through Congress because the Republicans won’t fight the leader of the party and the Dims get the socialist laws they wanted all along.


134 posted on 09/09/2012 10:15:07 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Alberta's Child

The big business crowd that pumps money into our political campaigns wanted Obamacare as a vehicle to separate themselves from bearing the cost of healthcare for employees.

I’m all for helping business reduce its costs by lowering taxes and regulation, but not through a nationalized government takeover of healthcare.

Romney will modify Obamacare to make it more business friendly like making everyone pay money to the insurance companies so their balance sheets looks better.


135 posted on 09/09/2012 10:17:56 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: VictoryGal

That is why we need to fight for the likes of Allen West, Michelle Bachmann, Todd Akin, Ted Cruz and other TEA Party Patriots. We need a new speaker and whip. WE CAN DO THIS!


136 posted on 09/09/2012 10:21:41 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: VictoryGal
Not a nickel will I spend on Romney’s campaign. It’s all going to tight Congressional races.

Agreed

137 posted on 09/09/2012 10:23:36 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: chuckee
There are no free ponies.

Only fewer and more expensive ponies, courtesy of government meddling.

Romneycare was just another medical cost-shifting scheme that failed, while Obamacare is a cost-shifting scheme in combination with a calculated, deliberate hijacking of approximately 1/7 of the US economy by the White House marxist and his crew of central planners.

Our only hope is that Romney and co. have learned some salutary lessons from the Massachusetts mess. We know for sure that in a second Obama term, the economic hijacking will continue to advance at full throttle.

"Repeal and replace" is safer political rhetoric in a close election than threatening to "start over", since many voters favor certain aspects of Obamacare.

The unfortunate choice is between being semi-screwed and completely screwed.

138 posted on 09/09/2012 10:23:59 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Kickass Conservative
The way to fix the Pre Existing issue is for a Defined Risk Pool being established, just as Drivers with terrible driving records can get Assigned Risk Liability Policies on their Vehicles. The Insurance Pool is outside the regular Car Insurance System and Rates are determined within that specific group. The problem that Liberals have is they want to change everything rather than focusing on the problem of a minority of participants.

Agree

139 posted on 09/09/2012 10:28:21 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: MestaMachine

I don’t disagree on getting Congress back...however we need to be realistic that Bush and then Obama have succeeded in making Congress for the most part irrelevant.

Additionally ask ANY tea party candidate that got into office, the establishment progressives have effectively neutered ALL of them.


140 posted on 09/09/2012 10:31:33 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer

So you agree with me that we need BIGGER numbers then. This is a fight worth fighting.


141 posted on 09/09/2012 10:39:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: MestaMachine
True, we can always “Harriet Miers” Romney if he decides to get too cute.
142 posted on 09/09/2012 10:47:36 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Orange1998
Romney makes decision based on the given tide. He wants to be liked by everyone and thus becomes submissive. That is not the definition of a leader. May God help us.

He has a submissive, pleading tone when he speaks that drives me crazy.

143 posted on 09/09/2012 10:54:45 AM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Agree with your analysis, still it’s hard for any leader to emerge when they will immediately be branded as “racist” or “heartless”. It’s not an environment that rewards honesty or clarity.


144 posted on 09/09/2012 11:07:56 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Since the Primaries are over, you either Vote for the (R) or for the (D). If you Vote for anyone but the (R), you give the Election to the (D). In a word, twaddle. I'm not voting for Zero -- so by your logic, does that mean I'm really supporting Romney?

This is not a Republican website. It's a conservative website. I vote for conservatives. Exclusively.

145 posted on 09/09/2012 11:54:44 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Since the Primaries are over, you either Vote for the (R) or for the (D). If you Vote for anyone but the (R), you give the Election to the (D).

In a word, twaddle. I'm not voting for Zero -- so by your logic, does that mean I'm really supporting Romney?

This is not a Republican website. It's a conservative website. I vote for conservatives. Exclusively.

146 posted on 09/09/2012 11:55:50 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
“This is not a Republican website. It's a conservative website.”

Right now this website supports Romney and that makes it Republican until the election is over or until the GOPe nominate another RINO and that one is accepted.

There is not a Conservative party so I don't care what the R or D party does. Best thing to do is store water and food to protect yourself from both parties.

147 posted on 09/09/2012 1:08:40 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Good for you.

I was just stating a fact, not trying to change your mind.

Have a wonderful rest of your day.

Que sera, sera...

148 posted on 09/09/2012 1:22:12 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

You too! And I agree with your last line especially.


149 posted on 09/09/2012 3:21:15 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Marcella
There is not a Conservative party so I don't care what the R or D party does. Best thing to do is store water and food to protect yourself from both parties.

Well said. The major parties have nominated liberals with one pretending to be something he's not. We're pretty much on our own.

150 posted on 09/09/2012 3:22:33 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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