Skip to comments.Romney Says He Likes Parts of 'Obamacare'
Posted on 09/09/2012 7:01:46 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
"Of course there are a number of things that I like in health care reform that I'm going to put in place," he said in an interview broadcast Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." ''One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage."
Romney also said he would allow young adults to keep their coverage under their parents' health-insurance.
Those provisions have been two of the more popular parts of Obama's Affordable Care Act.
"I say we're going to replace Obamacare. And I'm replacing it with my own plan," Romney said. "And even in Massachusetts when I was governor, our plan there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people."
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I actually like parts of it too:
the Medical Loss Ratio is a great provision
that doesn’t mean I’m a commie. It means that I’m sick of bloated health insurers spending less than 25% of premiums on actual ...healthcare. That is freakin ridiculous.
I think obamacare is wrong in it’s approach. More competition would fix this (across state lines) , but there is no freakin reason that some of these large AT&T-like payors are spending < 25% of premiums on healthcare. That is why we are seeing the huge increases.
Hey, what gives? On the RNC convention live thread, they were saying Romney would be our King David! This shocks me! /s
Guess what I like part of it too, the pre-existing part of it. So sue me.
>> Romney may be dumb enough to lose this election. Now, as he continues his lunge to the Left,
I don’t get you people. Did you really believe he’s changed from his MA days?
Romney for about a year now: REPEAL AND REPLACE!!!
The staggering bewilderment over Romney’s Liberal views is astonishing given the alleged acumen of the typical Conservative.
Romney’s a Lib, Obama’s a Marxist. Still undecided?
Wait till Obamacare comes up in the debates.
This is always the plan with the GOP. The only reason the populace supports or votes for their candidates is because the other side is so absurd.
In the end, the country steers left, because both parties want it that way. Just like herding sheep.
Oh, Obama’s team is storing this all up. If you think Romney blushed and stammered during the primary debates, wait till October.
While I agree this is wrong, do you realize the republicans are not willing to eliminate these benefits? They just aren’t. And polls show everyone wants them.
The defeat of Obama is essential for all kinds of vital reasons, defense, tax policy, Supreme Court, illegals, voter ID, US Attorneys.
But America has an entitlement sickness.
The only positive is, the republicans do support some free market mechanisms to reform health insurance. Like interstate competition.
I forgot it myself-—thanks for the reminder, LOL.
Wrong, no one will be insurable (eventually) if pre-existing conditions are NOT covered.
You're missing the point. Everyone eventually gets some form of disease (in the generic sense of the term) for which they're covered until they either lose their job, their health care plan changes, or some other factor. It's at that point that their "pre-existing condition" becomes un-insurable, and typically they themselves then become un-insurable.
If you're going to stick with your position, then you'd best hope you end up dying healthy and never needing insurance in the first place.
I'll add one other thing before I put my flame suit on: Anyone who thinks that we're "going back" to the old system where people get booted off their insurance policy or claims not getting paid for has a serious screw loose. IMO, that is the ONLY benefit of Obamacare passing in the first place.
By that I specifically mean repeal, replace, and REPAIR those parts of our health-care system that need repairing. No one in their right minds wants government-controlled healthcare, nor do they want to go back to what the Insurance companies have gotten away with for years, denying coverage for every little thing while taking our premiums in payment for a service they don't provide.
Personally, I pay $9,600 for health care insurance annually, and have a $2,500 deductible that I must meet before my insurance pays dime ONE of a claim. So why am I paying $9,600 + a $2,500 deductible every year for Health Care insurance when I typically spend about $800/year towards my deductible? That's insane.
The Health Care insurer (Blue Cross/Shield of IL) is getting $9,600 PURE PROFIT for zero service, and all because NOW the Government says I have to PAY for insurance. It's a LAW in Illinois that if your insurer provides health care coverage and you have no other means of insurance, and if you can't PROVE you have health-care coverage elsewhere, all employees are automatically enrolled in the Employer's plan and have NO CHOICE but to pay. That's GOVERNMENT MANDATED HEALTHCARE, long before ObamaCare existed! It's a protected MONOPOLY here in IL where a handful of insurers have locked up the market!
That ain't right. Bring on COMPETITION and let's see those premiums drop I say.
We have plenty of good people crying in the wilderness, but those who control the conditions have those potential leaders you eloquently described we need, under a tight leash.
These “overlords” hold great power and wealth as they run “the show” comfortably in the background. Not a conspiracy, just normal power grabs by lobbyists and Utopians who are either of the Marxists persuasion or practical planning of bureaucratic “compassion” with tax breaks thrown in.
Exactly! As I recall, the dims didn't even bring up BammyCare at their convention. Why go there, Mitt??
Exactly... Unless everyone is put into a national pool, and insurers are assigned customers randomly. Maybe something like that is the plan.
We pay for the uninsured regardless, because hospitals are required by law to accept the indigent.
Maybe this works in theory, but here in MA, rates are going through the roof.
I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing, but just what is a person to do if they have an existing illness and need to change carriers?
At least he can be lead around by the nose, unlike the Marxist. It would be an improvement. Yeah, pathetic, I know.
“One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage.”
Think, folks, before you react.
First, the number of folks who can’t get coverage because of pre-existing conditions is relatively small. It is a small part of our health payment system crisis. Unfortunately, forcing guaranteed issue on insurance companies is a great way to make the problem much, much larger, especially without an enforceable mandate, which is something, I think, that would go away with the repeal of Obamacare.
But it’s probably one of the few points of Obamacare that garners widespread support. Most folks can’t stand the idea of some little kid, born with some hideous disease, unable to get good health care because his parents can’t obtain insurance for him.
That’s the sizzle selling the cowpie that is Obamacare. Poor little Johnnie will be able to get that life-saving treatment that otherwise would cost his family a gazillion dollars, forcing them to choose between his life and putting food on the table for their 11 other children.
But, notice what Gov. Romney doesn’t say: He doesn’t say, “We’ll continue with guaranteed issue.”
He doesn’t say that he’s going to force every insurance company in the market to issue health insurance policies to any and everyone, no matter what they’re health conditions.
He just says that his plan will ensure that even folks with pre-existing conditions will be able to get coverage.
If he doesn’t lay out a plan to deal with this relatively-small group of individuals, he will not garner the popular support needed to repeal Obamacare.
There are more ways to skin this cat than guaranteed issue.
Before I get all apoplectic about this, I’ll wait to see how he proposes to do this.
I remember Newt (the candidate I supported in the primary) making mention of the health care bill, saying that “about 300 pages were actually pretty good”.
We need to be objective here.
SOMETHING has to be done to help people with pre-existing conditions.
What is your solution???
What’s Romney going to say?
“I like your idea, President Obama, especially as you borrowed it from my health care plan when I was Governor of Massachusetts; there’s just a few minor things I would tweak if I’m elected.”
For instance, If she is insured at the time of her initial diagnosis and covered for the breast cancer, then the insurance industry cant consider it a preexisting condition for future policies.
The best choice is to leave cases like this to charity. And in a free America, no one would fall through the cracks.
But there's a long way from here to there. In the interim, perhaps it would be possible to put the uninsurable into a pool for healthcare providers to bid on. This wouldn't be insurance. Simply bidding for care. The care would have to be tax-funded. Like Medicare.
In practice, Romneycare isn't working in MA. Rates are skyrocketing.
Unless your loved one has been dropped by an insurance company, you have no idea what this kind of nightmare is like!
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
-- James Madison, the father of the U.S. Constitution
Yes, but part of the reason that they are skyrocketing is because of health insurance. If everyone paid cash or could only afford by paying cash or layaway, the prices for medical treatment would fall overnight.
I'm making up for ten of you. We're out here.
That’s a ridiculous argument.
If your child came down with a dread disease, and you had to depend on “charity”(as another poster suggested) because your insurance company dropped his coverage, your life would be a freaking NIGHTMARE!
This is Romney’s “McCain” moment. When McCain suspended his campaign to support the bailout.
Well maybe if they used their noggin while they were younger on how government intrusion would drive up cost while insurance companies play their eventual part and VOTED TO PREVENT THAT, save money while health care was transformed from a service to a “right”, and at least appreciated the chance at quality care instead of the rationing that awaits next generations maybe the will feel sorry for the nightmare they created themselves. Voting has consequences and economics is the great equalizer when central planners play around with our resources.
Romney wants to unload the mandate yet keep the preexisting condition coverage of Obamacare.I wonder who pays for requiring private insurers to keep the preexisting condition coverage.Healthy insureds will see astronomical premium increases to subsidize the requirement of coverage for the unhealthy at the same premium rates as the healthy. There are no free ponies. Repeal and starting over and not replacement is the only route
Sorry it is Romney’s position, his tactics that are going to suppress turn-out. Not a stupid article.
Look at the track record.
They enter the convention fully unified and the establishment just couldn’t resist they make a power play and fracture the unified front.
Now Romney has the nomination locked more truth comes out.
First it was repeal Obamacare
Then it was replace and replacement Obamacare
Now it is replace with Romneycare.
Now we all know why SCOTUS did what it did. They met with the Romney camp and had to preserve the approach because it would have restored power back to the US Constitution and no progressive can allow that.
Get ready for Amnesty as well.
It’s the correct argument, health care is a service not a right. You may have a right at access but your neighbor should not be obligated to play your keeper and prop up your life by force.
Is this a limited government site, did I take a wrong turn and ended up at DU?
“Romney wants to unload the mandate yet keep the preexisting condition coverage of Obamacare.”
There are other ways to cover folks with pre-existing conditions than mandating that all health insurance companies provide guaranteed issue.
I'd like to see President Romney's proposed replacement before I have a fit about it.
The vast majority of the people like Obamacare's preexisting conditions and insuring children up to age 26 on their parents' policy provisions. Romney would be a fool to say that his replacement plan would not contain these elements.
For the love of God...the BO campaign gets a few points bounce from the convention and Romney runs screaming right back to his MA leftist roots. This is the biggest hold-my-nose vote I think I will ever have cast in my life. If he keeps this crap up, my motivation to stand in line to vote will die a slow death.
I just heard from Mitt again, asking for support. I went to his site and where it asked if I was having trouble sending a donation I inserted the following:
Romney Says He Likes Parts of ‘Obamacare’
What part of get the Government out of my healthcare don’t you understand? Limited Government operating in the Black! Clean House, close the bloated Departments and give power back to the states and to the people.
I doubt it will get to the ears of anyone that matters but maybe someone here has a better idea how to make Mitt feel the heat.
As Mitt exposes his belief that the Government is “Nanny who knows better and must protect us” there needs to be a way to make him know there is a cost to that posture. If we stay silent we deserve what we get. How many times has BO walked back his stance hours after getting heat in the blogosphere. I think we need to educate Mitt about the voice of the people. He needs to be Freeped!
Pre-existing coverage, is covered.
That is one thing about healthcare which basically sucks.
Bring it. I’m all for this part.
Vote Johnson of Goode then. Don’t leave that box unchecked.
We were warne d. We didn’t head that warning like so many times before... Now we have to deal with it once again.
I don’t consider them to be the same. You agree to things like mortgages and cars. Diabetes, cancer ,those things you don’t. I don’t feel bad for insurance company’s when they pay out. They have that risk factored in .
The Federal govt has ZERO legit authority to be mucking about with health care in any form. Period.
I don’t give a f*ck who “liked” parts of it. They are wrong.
Did anyone happen to notice that this article is from the AUSTIN STATESMAN that is very democrat and left leaning? Or that they have editorials salivating and slobbering at the thought of a ‘democrat Texas’? That they joyously wept over the dem convention featuring the castro brothers while dissing Ted Cruz at the republican convention?
There are plenty of things I don’t like about Romney, but let’s have some truth in packaging here. They friggin’ cherry picked quotes without giving ANY context. You will forgive ne for being just a tad skeptical.
Well we are also going to vote for Mitt as is everyone in our family and all of our friends. But we are not living in a dreamworld where Mitt and Paul Ryan prevent the total economic collapse that is coming. Nor will they roll back the police state that has been installed in this county that will eventually ignite a civil war.
No we are voting for Romney/Ryan to get rid of the worst hoax ever perpetrated on the American public. The host is just ridding itself of the parasite.
Keep buying beans and bullets because you will still need them at some point.
Yes but you need food, shelter, clothing and family planning. Plus for psychological purposes you need “entertainment”; once you rationalize one subsidy you pave the way for other “requirements”.
You want government to force insurance companies to cover everything by force? What will that eventually do? Not too hard to think about the ramifications of future obligations, care, and cost. Have fun creating your Brave New World because the ending and “requirements” will be something else.
I guess Medicare/Medicaid are failures, time to rearrange the deck because people have chosen security over liberty and economic independence.
The whole purpose of ObamaCare is to serve as the first step in separating medical insurance from employment ... thereby removing one of the largest cost items from the accounting ledger of every major U.S. corporation. The GOP is 100% behind this, but was perfectly content to let this jug-eared dupe in the White House and that hag Speaker of the House stand up and put the whole thing together.
The ABO crowd now owns him. Let them stew in this unsurprising turn of events.
It's a limited government site, except when it isn't - that would be liberal Romney is a lesser evil than Hussein. Think good things about Romney so he is elected, then you can reverse your thinking to see him as he really is, then yell about it and that will be okay then.
Great post and you are right. I would also like to add that insurance companies love Obamacare. Sure they will have to pony up for people with pre-existing conditions, but they are getting a huge new pool of healthy customers to offset that cost who won’t cost them anything. And they knew the system was unsustainable in the long run so this was far better than a single payer system for them. Frankly, if you aren’t invested in that industry yet, now is the time to get in on it.