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McDonald's new menu item: Calorie counts [follows Supreme Ct. ruling upholding ObamaCare]
Houston Chronicle ^ | September 12, 2012

Posted on 09/12/2012 9:35:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

McDonald's restaurants across the country will soon get a new menu addition: The number of calories in the chain's burgers and fries.

The world's biggest hamburger chain said Wednesday that it will post calorie information on restaurant and drive-thru menus nationwide starting Monday. The move comes ahead of a regulation that could require major chains to post the information as early as next year.

"We want to voluntarily do this," said Jan Fields, president of McDonald's USA. "We believe it will help educate customers."

In cities such as New York and Philadelphia where posting calorie information is already required, however, Fields notes that the information has not changed what customers choose to order.

"When it's all said and done, the menu mix doesn't change," she said. "But I do think people feel better knowing this information."

The decision to post calorie information follows the Supreme Court's decision this summer to uphold President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, which includes a regulation that would require restaurant chains with more than 20 locations to post calorie information. The timetable for carrying out that requirement has yet to be worked out........

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: bullystate; calorienotice; calories; fastfood; food; healthcare; johnroberts; nannystate; obamacare; obesity
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1 posted on 09/12/2012 9:35:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The movie “Fat Head” made fun of this very idea.

The government mindset is that people are too stupid to realize that McDonald’s food is fattening and bad for you. So he went up to people on the street holding a tray with McDonald’s food and asked:

1) Is this food healthy or unhealthy to eat?

2) Will eating this food make you fat?

Everyone, absolutely everyone, knew it was unhealthy and would make you fat.

We don’t need a paternalistic govt to point out what we already know.


2 posted on 09/12/2012 9:42:03 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The Democratic Party has become the Beclowning Party)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“McDonald’s restaurants across the country will soon get a new menu addition:”

Egg McNothing?


3 posted on 09/12/2012 9:42:14 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As someone who is very fit/health consious I don't have a problem with this. Saw the new boards listing the cal. at the McDees drive thru this morning while getting my oatmeal. It's no big deal.

Was surprised at the amount of cal. in some items though..

4 posted on 09/12/2012 9:42:42 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Brookhaven

Not all Mcdees food is fattening. I like when restaurants list the cal. I can them make a informed decision on what I want to eat or not...just as I look at the labels on packages of food in stores.


5 posted on 09/12/2012 9:46:03 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1
As someone who is very fit/health consious I don't have a problem with this. Saw the new boards listing the cal. at the McDees drive thru this morning while getting my oatmeal. It's no big deal.

I agree. Here on FR, though, advocating a healthy lifestyle will get you ostracized.

6 posted on 09/12/2012 9:47:35 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Saw that at our local McDonald’s a few days ago. It makes it easy to calculate calories per dollar, to determine the best value. Even with a BOGO for a quarter pounder with cheese, the McDouble gives more calories/$.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 9:47:55 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I don’t need anything in writing to tell me how many calories there are in McDonalds’ food. The answer is: a shitload. And I don’t care.


8 posted on 09/12/2012 9:48:03 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: trailhkr1

I stopped in yesterday and it was on the tray mat. I found out if I order a grilled chicken wrap with no dressing (or use Honey Mustard) instead of a double cheeseburger, I can get several plain ice cream sundaes and not feel guilty! I’m lovin’ it.


9 posted on 09/12/2012 9:49:04 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Flour and sugar are the enemy. Eat in small quantities, and you’ll have no weight problem.


10 posted on 09/12/2012 9:49:48 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Brookhaven
1) Is this food healthy or unhealthy to eat? 2) Will eating this food make you fat?

Sometimes you don't know what the calories are in certain foods at restaurants even though it appears healthy or has mainly healthy ingredients...sometimes it fools you. I was getting what I thought was a healthy cranberry/apple/chicken salad at a place-thought it has maybe 500-600 cal and looked at their website later and it was 1450 cal.

11 posted on 09/12/2012 9:50:22 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I was hoping McDonalds would add some real food to its menu.

And maybe some employees who actually listen to what you are ordering instead of gossiping.

12 posted on 09/12/2012 9:50:39 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I was hoping McDonalds would add some real food to its menu.

And maybe some employees who actually listen to what you are ordering instead of gossiping.

13 posted on 09/12/2012 9:50:50 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I was hoping McDonalds would add some real food to its menu.

And maybe some employees who actually listen to what you are ordering instead of gossiping.

14 posted on 09/12/2012 9:50:50 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Girlene
I stopped in yesterday and it was on the tray mat. I found out if I order a grilled chicken wrap with no dressing (or use Honey Mustard) instead of a double cheeseburger, I can get several plain ice cream sundaes and not feel guilty! I’m lovin’ it.

I order the grilled chicken sandwich at times 350 cal and 295 w/o the mayo which is how I order it.

15 posted on 09/12/2012 9:53:33 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have seen the new menu boards on the drive-thru. It is difficult to read. There is no order to the menu. Very confusing to me.


16 posted on 09/12/2012 9:56:10 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"When it's all said and done, the menu mix doesn't change," she said. "But I do think people feel better knowing this information."

They won't, of course, do anything much with this information. Or maybe they'll top off the bazillion-calorie McDonalds meal with a diet soft drink. And "feel" that they're doing something. (And if their clothes don't fit, it must be George Bush's fault.)

17 posted on 09/12/2012 9:57:19 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

True, or not at all!


18 posted on 09/12/2012 9:58:58 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: trailhkr1

Not all Mcdees food is fattening. I like when restaurants list the cal. I can them make a informed decision on what I want to eat or not...just as I look at the labels on packages of food in stores.


The problem isn’t that its useful. The problem is that the government is FORCING restaurants to do this. I’m all for a healthy lifestyle and being informed, but it’s not the goverment’s job to do that. If McD’s did this voluntarily, good for them. The problem is that the gov’s is forcing everyone to do this with obamacare.

Say yes to healthy. Say no to the nanny state.


19 posted on 09/12/2012 10:00:11 AM PDT by Conservaliberty (I've written over 200 pages for a novel. But I didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They should concentrate more on their food, and not their advertising fluff. Working getting fresh buns, for a change. Work on making sure the burgers are hot when you get them. Working going back to the old fries and not the new cardboard ones.

But most of all, working on replacing your staff with some that are not complacent, distracted, and display an attitude.


20 posted on 09/12/2012 10:01:37 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: trailhkr1
I am 71 and have been eating McDonald's since I was 6 or 7. Grew up with the original McDonald's in California. NO health problems other than Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis, which has nothing to do with what one eats.
21 posted on 09/12/2012 10:02:51 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have no problem with this. They have been doing this at Burger King for some time now.

The numbers are meaningless unless you know what a healthy total of daily calories is supposed to be based on the type of work you do. A laborer will need more calories than an office worker sitting behind a desk for eight hours.


22 posted on 09/12/2012 10:04:19 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: Brookhaven

A person is healthy or not healthy.

Food (once it is inanimate) is healthful or not healthful.

That’s English.


23 posted on 09/12/2012 10:09:09 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: raybbr
“I agree. Here on FR, though, advocating a healthy lifestyle will get you ostracized. “

No, it won't. But advocating the Nanny State will, Comrade.

24 posted on 09/12/2012 10:20:43 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: trailhkr1

“Not all Mcdees food is fattening. I like when restaurants list the cal. I can them make a informed decision on what I want to eat or not...just as I look at the labels on packages of food in stores.”

I don’t go to fast food joints to get a healthy meal. If I want a big, grease dripping double bacon cheese burger, I am going to get it no matter how many calories it has. Pro Choice is not just for Abortion.

Hmm, I may market that.


25 posted on 09/12/2012 10:23:23 AM PDT by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: Brookhaven
Knowing the calories means almost nothing. It's akin to witchcraft.

What you really need are the grams of carbohydrates (diabetics and dieters can actually use that information) and possibly the fat content ~ although that needs to be divided up into a number of categories to inform people with specific conditions of what they need to know.

Protein might be useful ~

26 posted on 09/12/2012 10:23:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Coldwater Creek
I have only two real concerns ~ does the product contain wheat, barley or rye gluten ~ those are, to say the least, poisonous to me and 3.54% of the American people. And, I need to know the grams of carbs.

Frankly I can't think of a single health situation where you'd ever need to know calories.

27 posted on 09/12/2012 10:26:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brookhaven
Everyone, absolutely everyone, knew it was unhealthy and would make you fat.

Then "everyone" doesn't know what they're talking about. Food is not bad or good. It's just food. This good food/bad food dichotomy is used often by the know nothings to inspire the bans that conservatives should abhor.

This emotional and anti-science thinking also perpetuates the nonsensical claim that food can be separated into two categories: good and bad. The reality is that there is no bad food...only bad diets. And this, combined with a serious lack of physical activity in a sedentary country, is why Americans are fat.

McDonald's food is not fattening if you don't eat more of it than you burn. You can get fat from eating "healthy" food if you eat too much of it. Michael Phelps eats 12,000 calories as day when he's in training, and he admits that he loves so called "junk food." I don't think anyone, at least with a brain, would consider Phelps unhealthy.

In response to the stupidity of the "Super Sized" movie that nanny statists cheered, two researchers did their own study on McDonald's food and lost weight by eating nothing but "fattening" items from the McDonald's menu. They ate chocolate shakes and Double Quarter Pounders for an entire month, but unlike the "Super Size" idiot, they got regular exercise and lost weight during the month even though they ate, on average, about 4000 calories a day.

Placing the calorie content of food on a menu won't do a damned thing to reduce the incidence of obesity in this country. If operators want to do it then that's fine. But to compel businesses to do this is nanny statism at its finest.

28 posted on 09/12/2012 10:44:16 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Awww, geez, that huge drive thru menu is already indecipherable


29 posted on 09/12/2012 10:49:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Surprised by the calories...but not in the way the Food Police want me to be. Big Mac is 550 calories. I was thinking more like 800. So I guess I can get 2 now. Thanks Food Police!


30 posted on 09/12/2012 10:51:34 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This just goes to show that some people and companies need government to show them a right thing to do. A very sad commentary on not doing what you think is right or perhaps just that some people actually believe government is the answer to all their private choices.


31 posted on 09/12/2012 11:48:03 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: muawiyah
Knowing the calories means almost nothing. It's akin to witchcraft.

Calories is still a significant factor if you are wanting to lose weight. Not everything can be based upon protein vs carbs vs fats. Not all calories are the same either. To lose weight properly(1-2 lbs max per week) the accepted rule is to eat 500 calories below your maintence level and you need to know your maintence level.

I eat 3300 cal per day when not lifting(cardio only) and 3600 per day on my lifting days and really watch my macros-more good carbs on lifting days for peak energy.

32 posted on 09/12/2012 12:39:36 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: muawiyah

My husband had Celiac. I would order without bread and he never had a problem.


33 posted on 09/12/2012 12:41:12 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: trailhkr1

As I said, akin to witchcraft.


34 posted on 09/12/2012 3:56:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: trailhkr1
As someone who is very fit/health consious I don't have a problem with this. Saw the new boards listing the cal. at the McDees drive thru this morning while getting my oatmeal. It's no big deal.

I'm very "fit/health" consious conscious, too. And I have a very big problem with it. It costs restaurants thousands and thousands of dollars to have the tests done to come up with these calorie counts.

Now, McDonalds can afford that. But what about Joe's Breakfast Wagon? What do you think it does to his bottom line? Might well put him out of business or -- at the least -- seriously affect his living.

And for what? So people can know that a burger with cheese has a really lot of calories? They didn't know that? You think they're going to change their decision because of it?

No one even counts calories anymore [well, except for the ignoramuses who sign up for Weight-Watchers.]

All of these nanny-state regulations that you "don't have a problem with" actually cost real Americans real money! They benefit mega-businesses at the expense of their small, start-up competitors. Did you ever think about that?

You don't have a problem with nanny politicians forcing businesses to spend money on things we already know and which are none of government's damned business.

I do. If you consider yourself a conservative, you should, perhaps, re-examine your premises. You don't sound much like one to me.

35 posted on 09/12/2012 4:32:35 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
“I agree. Here on FR, though, advocating a healthy lifestyle will get you ostracized. “

No, it won't. But advocating the Nanny State will, Comrade.

A case in point. Where did I advocate a nanny state?

And, yes, advocating a healthy lifestyle does get ostracized here. Too many Limbaugh listeners think that he has the answers to healthy living.

36 posted on 09/12/2012 5:56:47 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I will always be grateful to McDonald's for the Egg McMuffin - perhaps the most perfect breakfast food ever invented.

I much rather make them at home myself though. What I do is toast Thomas's English Muffins while frying three eggs. I fold the cooked eggs into the English Muffin with two slices of swiss cheese and several slices of bacon. Also, I drizzle the English Muffins with 100% olive oil (not butter).

I don't know how many calories that has but multiply by two or three because I can never have just one.

37 posted on 09/12/2012 6:03:32 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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It’s called “junk food” for a reason. Calorie counts are superfluous. Only a numbskull would think this stuff is good for you.

Even the salads with chicken strips are high-calorie. Anyone keeping track of the news would know that, however, so again, calorie counts are superfluous.


38 posted on 09/13/2012 7:12:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; ...

“YOU VILL POST ZE CALORIESS ON ZE MENUSS!” thundered Herr Chief Justice Fuhrer Johann Roberts.

Or something like that.

Nanny State PING!


39 posted on 09/13/2012 7:14:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let them post the calories and I’ll ignore them if I crave something fattening.

What nonsense(and I’ve always been slim).

I have what most of us have——good old fashioned common sense.

.


40 posted on 09/13/2012 7:38:10 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


41 posted on 09/13/2012 10:03:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: trailhkr1
As someone who is very fit/health consious I don't have a problem with this. Saw the new boards listing the cal. at the McDees drive thru this morning while getting my oatmeal. It's no big deal.

Oh man. That's a 3-palmer...


42 posted on 09/13/2012 10:20:55 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This regulation would still have been permissible prior to the SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare. Wickard and Raich are still in force. Roberts' opinion left them completely intact.

Fedgov can and will impose these kinds of nanny state rules under the current expansive view of Commerce Clause.

43 posted on 09/13/2012 10:32:02 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I believe McDonald's is doing this as REPAYMENT to the Obama administration for the original WAIVER they received, as a corporation,

This happened in Sept of 2010... or has everyone forgotten they were made somewhat exempt from obamacare..

McDonald's, 29 other firms get health care coverage waivers

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2010-10-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm

44 posted on 09/13/2012 10:35:11 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; trailhkr1
Even the salads with chicken strips are high-calorie. Anyone keeping track of the news would know that, however, so again, calorie counts are superfluous.

Not true. Counting calories alone is not helpful but knowing how much is fat, sugar and protein does make a big difference. It helps me make choices for my sons. One needs more protein and fats the other less sugar and fat.

How could more information be considered superfluous?

45 posted on 09/14/2012 3:15:41 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; raybbr; Ken H
It’s called “junk food” for a reason. Calorie counts are superfluous. Only a numbskull would think this stuff is good for you. Even the salads with chicken strips are high-calorie. Anyone keeping track of the news would know that, however, so again, calorie counts are superfluous.

Not all Mcdees is junk food and you can tailor the food so it is healthy. The Southwest grilled chicken salad for instance is only 290 cal with the chicken strips and I eat it w/o salad dressing.

46 posted on 09/14/2012 6:59:38 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Ken H
Oh man. That's a 3-palmer...

What is so facepalm? Their oatmeal is fairly nutritious and I also get 2 scrambled eggs with it..Great protein...

Don't eat at Mcdee often but when I do I try to make it as nutritious as I can

47 posted on 09/14/2012 7:02:38 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; BfloGuy; Mears; raybbr; Ken H; Alamo-Girl
I post on the largest body building site in the world-6 million forum members worldwide and I can tell you 99% of the people still figure daily calorie calculations in their daily meal program but we go one step further and figure out the good cals vs the bad ones along with protein/good carbs and good fat calculations.

Why calorie counting is decreasing in importance in diet programs is because most people are ignorant and under calculate what they are actually eating or don't have the discipline to keep track of everything they eat on a daily basis.

hey tolerance you do know small mom and pop restaurants are exempt from this ruling don't you and many large restaurants have already been posting calorie info on their menues for years now????

Not everything the gov't mandates is bad or wrong.. 35+ years ago before the federal pension vesting rules, co's would fire people a few months shy of their retirement date so they would not have to pay out the pension. No we have vesting rules regarding pensions. My grandfather was in the pension business and saw this happen.

Many people including (gasp)conservatives look at food labels(calories/protein/sodium) in stores when making food choices and are glad it is labeled and use the information.

48 posted on 09/14/2012 7:21:56 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: raybbr
The article stated that McDonlad’s was listing the caloric value of their menu offering in advance of a GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENT TO DO SO. Your post implied support for that idea by equating opposition to the mandate to ostracizing a healthy lifestyle. That is nanny statism, pure and simple.
49 posted on 09/14/2012 8:54:20 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie; trailhkr1
Your post implied support for that idea by equating opposition to the mandate to ostracizing a healthy lifestyle.

It wasn't an implication. I stated it as fact. Here on FR there are great many people who DO equate anything anyone says about being healthy as a) a personal attack b) desiring a nanny state c) or, trying to tell other people what they should and shouldn't do.

I am advocating nor doing any of those. I advocate a healthy lifestyle for the health of it. I HAVE been ostracized in the past for doing so. Just like the responses I have seen to "trailhkr1" on this thread and others.

50 posted on 09/14/2012 11:20:04 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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