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BREAKING: VIDEO PURPORTS TO SHOW US AMBASSADOR DRAGGED FROM BENGHAZI CONSULATE
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Posted on 09/16/2012 3:55:36 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

YouTube user "Abdalgadar Fadi" has uploaded a video on the arabic language version of the video sharing site purporting to show US Ambassador Christopher Stevens dragged from the consulate in Benghazi.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chrisstevens; christopherstevens; libya; obama; obamaknew; obamasfault
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To: 1066AD

This paper says it was rescue:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2012/09/16/01003-20120916ARTFIG00216-benghazile-recit-de-l-assaut-antiamericain.php

Google trans. of “Carbonisation” paragraph:

Christopher Stevens he paid with his death overconfidence or bravery? Some suggest he wanted to find refuge in a secure room, as it exists in all U.S. Embassies. But while walking this weekend the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, completely charred and looted, there is no trace. A witness Bacouche Fahed, who arrived at the scene shortly before midnight on September 11, recounts videos to support, how the crowd pulled Ambassador inanimate. In the image, we see no door blocks the progression of the rash when they try to enter the small building. The smoke is too dense, these young men forced to retreat several times before finally a voice screaming there’s a man inside.

According to this witness, the lifeless body of the ambassador is finally extracted from the rubble to 1am. “He’s alive,” rejoice men who wear awkwardly Christopher Stevens. But nobody has any medical knowledge, and there is no ambulance nearby. Christopher Stevens arrives at the hospital in a private car in 1 h 30. Despite their best efforts, the doctors will not be able to keep it alive.


201 posted on 09/16/2012 8:31:08 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Psalm 144

thanks. who is this guy?


202 posted on 09/16/2012 8:34:10 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Girlene

That poor man and the three others. Offered up to terrorists by their own country.


203 posted on 09/16/2012 8:35:28 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl; Mich Patriot

“I don’t know how many on this thread think they were trying to “help” the Ambassador. I sure don’t. ... I think many freepers on this thread are trying to debunk the official storyline.”

Thus my use of the unique Obama term “corpse men”. Most people got it.

The video utterly disproves the government lie about ‘helping him to the hospital’. This is a celebratory mob.


204 posted on 09/16/2012 8:39:34 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Girlene

I’m on the side the video/pictures are showing the locals trying to help Ambassador Stevens.

The video is taken of the dead ambassador hours after the consulate was attacked. Mr. Stevens died of smoke inhalation and heat from the fires causing the redness in his skin. Heat accelerates rigor mortis, notice his stiff left arm in both photos. Maybe Ambassador Stevens had loosened his own belt when he was trying to breathe in the smoke.

The evil mf’ers had long left to attack the safe house. Once the compound quit burning the locals found his body. This would account for the many hours Ambassador Stevens was missing.


205 posted on 09/16/2012 8:41:46 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

“I am creeped out that I have not only spent time staring at photos of a tortured man but that I have posted about it.”

This isn’t macabre voyeurism. Given the lies promulgated byt he government, this is an effort at forensics with the tiniest scraps of evidence available. If it comes from the administration we know it is a lie. Thus we try to see for ourselves what happened.

Looking at this stuff does wear at the soul though.


206 posted on 09/16/2012 8:45:37 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Psalm 144

They all seem to know how to use cell phones and video recorders, but can’t get him to the hospital? Security source sees the four bodies in the streets? It’s so BS but MSM (yahoo is really ticking me off, it’s shows these bogus stories about the mobs mad at the film when i log into my email. drudge also has a link to a yahoo story about the 4 Marines killed by Afghan police. at the top of the yahoo story, is a picture not of our Marines, but of “dead” women supposedly killed by Nato and carried by the women-loving-Afghan tribals. the story then proceeds to recite the Obama story of riots caused by defamation of the Prohpet)


207 posted on 09/16/2012 8:47:29 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Psalm 144

It does indeed wear at the soul. It also makes me more determined to get at the truth of this man occupying the White House.


208 posted on 09/16/2012 8:48:44 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Java4Jay
"Maybe Ambassador Stevens had loosened his own belt when he was trying to breathe in the smoke."

I've heard of loosening a tie, never a belt when one cannot breathe.

Maybe he was a boy scout and tried to put out the fire.

209 posted on 09/16/2012 8:50:37 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: machogirl

No idea who the guy is. His militarism is weird set alongside of Yanni, but then Hitler cried when his canary died.

There is no way the truth of this can be buried short of total censorship however. Two thirds of those good Samaritans were taking videos and photos when they weren’t rejoicing or yelling.

If this was a rescue, I hope Obama and Hillary’s political futures are similarly saved.


210 posted on 09/16/2012 8:52:28 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Psalm 144

Barry and the Billary have American blood on their hands. To quote Barry, “I won”. You did Barry, you own it. All of it.


211 posted on 09/16/2012 8:56:38 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

‘Terrorist’ don’t take their enemy to a hospital


212 posted on 09/16/2012 8:57:24 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

In the video, his arms are not bent.


213 posted on 09/16/2012 8:59:28 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

Hard to tell from the video, show me a screen shot please.


214 posted on 09/16/2012 9:02:23 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

I don’t know how, but go to the video on post 157, it’s easier to see. It’s near the very end of the video and both his arms are straight.


215 posted on 09/16/2012 9:05:53 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

You are correct, at the very end of video his left arm is stretched out as they move him


216 posted on 09/16/2012 9:13:14 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: HollyB
If this video is of locals trying to help the Stevens we won’t see many more videos/pictures of the Ambassador from that night. Anyone captured would be fearful for their lives by the devil worshipping terrorist.
217 posted on 09/16/2012 9:17:02 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

I would agree, but I haven’t seen any video of these guys or anyone taking him to the hospital. I have seen the video someone took at the morgue. We only have the “story” that he was taken to the hospital. By these guys? Who knows?


218 posted on 09/16/2012 9:21:59 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Irenic
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219 posted on 09/16/2012 9:26:17 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: Irenic
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220 posted on 09/16/2012 9:26:30 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: MarMema
I suppose both translations are close.

NYT:

“I swear, he’s dead,” one Libyan says, peering in. “Bring him out, man! Bring him out,” another says. “The man is alive. Move out of the way,” others shout. “Just bring him out, man.” “Move, move, he is still alive!” “Alive, Alive! God is great,” the crowd erupts, while someone calls to bring Mr. Stevens to a car.

YouTube:

by the way to all non- arabic speakers who are hearing the cheers and ALLAH AKBAR ... it is because they said " he is still alive ... quick to the hospital ... ALLAH AKBAR ... he is still alive ... take my car ... take my car ... !!!! "

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Judging the photos with my own eyes and somebody listing hospitals that are very near-- I feel rather certain that they didn't take him straight to the hospital. Maybe the ones who pulled him out had meant to but it didn't happen for hours.

221 posted on 09/16/2012 9:41:02 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

There will probably be more videos and pics emerging in the next week or so...maybe we will learn more then.


222 posted on 09/16/2012 9:42:57 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

It IS the lies we’re being fed. Our government is corrupt and inept and lying to us.


223 posted on 09/16/2012 9:46:38 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: MarMema

I hope so, I hope so...I want the truth.

I hope that if they drug him around, that they didn’t do what I think they did.

If they did the awful—I hope he wasn’t alive at the time.

I am pretty certain he was unconscious. Small comfort.

I did hunt the morgue video mentioned and I was relieved that his neck didn’t have any sign of the rumored lynching.

I wish this didn’t happen, it is just so senseless and terrible.


224 posted on 09/16/2012 9:56:28 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

One thing I do know, we are wringing our hands over this tragedy (more than a tragedy) and Barry is fundraising. A travesty to all people with compassion and empathy, and love for our Country and those who serve.


225 posted on 09/16/2012 10:11:55 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: livius

Isn’t there ways to go in and access other country’s web pages?


226 posted on 09/16/2012 10:26:25 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Irenic

Where I can find his Morgue Video?


227 posted on 09/16/2012 10:27:35 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: jennychase

Found it in LiveLeak


228 posted on 09/16/2012 10:31:58 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: Bellflower

Oww. My brain hurts, lol.


229 posted on 09/16/2012 10:32:53 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jennychase

It was on liveleak.


230 posted on 09/16/2012 10:37:58 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

I wonder if someone can find the man with the cellphone stuck in his mouth and interview him, that is if he hasn’t been silenced.


231 posted on 09/17/2012 12:19:38 AM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Bellflower

I can’t stop thinking about this, it is so sad and it could have been avoided.

I wonder about that guy, too. It seems it would be fairly easy to discover who he is, especially with a tidy little reward.

I also wonder if the video of the Ambassador being *rescued* could have been dubbed over to make it fit the narrative better.

I only know I want the truth on this matter and why it is only Ambassador Stevens that got *rescued* and he had became separated from the others.

There are still the missing papers and before Stevens was the ambassador, he was the American representative to the Transitional National Council in Benghazi during the revolution,” in Libya.

Benghazi was the capital of rebel-held Libya during the uprising to oust Qaddafi. This is the same that was attacked June 6th, too.

June 6 2012
“The group was reportedly trying to gain information about its missing leader. The attack ended when the Transitional National Council (TNC) authorised the interior and defense ministries - who oversee a broad constellation of brigades made up of former rebels - to “use all means necessary, including force,” to retake the airport.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/us-embassy-in-libya-comes-under-attack/story-fn3dxity-1226386750563

So much about this whole story STINKS!


232 posted on 09/17/2012 12:37:53 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Marcella

I think AQ can coordinate protest/riots here in the U.S.A. using Mosques and local “community leaders” throughout select areas of the country in a similar fashion they did in the ME.


233 posted on 09/17/2012 1:37:07 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: cherry
"Mich you don't post much but when you do, its doozy...."

Well I lurk pretty much every day, and usually post several times a day, but not ALL day. :)

234 posted on 09/17/2012 4:24:16 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (One way to make sure crime doesn't pay would be to let the government run it. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ConservativeMan55

We have a bigger problem if this be the case....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-inside-story-of-us-envoys-assassination-8135797.html


235 posted on 09/17/2012 4:35:02 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: iontheball

But a lot of the attackers didn’t bother to cover their faces. Maybe it will help to determine who these animals are.

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And then what? Do you believe anyone in this Administration will have the guts or be able to gain access over the barbarians to prosecute them? It is nothing but a pipe dream. After the FBI watches this video, I bet you will see them taking the first plane out of that hell hole.
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That wasnt my post, there is someone on the thread who things that this is a police actionable issue. Not me. I think it is war and needs to be treated as war.


236 posted on 09/17/2012 8:01:14 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: Java4Jay
I’m on the side the video/pictures are showing the locals trying to help Ambassador Stevens.

Not me. We do not yet know what the cause of death was for Ambassador Stevens. I believe he was dead before he was removed from the building shown in the video.

Regarding the belt: In the video, there is a glint of the buckle centered right where it should be. In one of the photos, you can definitely see where the belt is undone in the process of being removed from the the belt loops. Then, in the one photo where he is slung over one animal's shoulder, his pants cannot be seen.

No, this was a deliberate removal of his trousers for some reason....and I can only think of one.
237 posted on 09/17/2012 8:58:19 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene

You are so correct. The video clearly shows his belt fastened but later in picture belt is undone.

I wanted to believe in some goodness but it appears that isn’t the case in this matter.

Thanks


238 posted on 09/17/2012 10:04:36 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: castlegreyskull

“I think AQ can coordinate protest/riots here in the U.S.A. using Mosques and local “community leaders” throughout select areas of the country in a similar fashion they did in the ME.”

The operative words in your post are, “protests/riots”. No one can “coordinate” protests and riots - they have a life or their own and change minute by minute due to crowd crazy behavior.


239 posted on 09/17/2012 11:10:40 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Irenic
NEW VERSION
240 posted on 09/17/2012 6:54:16 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: MarMema; bronxville

Thank you, this version is not as dark— at the 1:17 mark, the guy on the right with khaki pants and a white tee, he pokes at the ambassador with a stick of some sort.

Have you seen this one yet? FOX has a better quality version but it doesn’t include as much. FR bronxville found it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGILRWEcHo&feature=player_embedded

This video shows the truck at the beginning and then it is spliced in again at the end.

If you watch it, listen at the 5 sec mark.

Men are leaving the bldg and getting into the truck at the 11 mark and a gunshot at the 16 mark.

A replay of the truck shows up again at the 1:18 mark with gunshot at 1:23.


241 posted on 09/17/2012 9:51:46 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: MinuteGal

I wish we could be sure of a full autopsy result, but of course we cannot be. Even in less charged cases, govts like to keep secrets, and diplomats are seen as confidential objects, rather than people available for legitimate public scrutiny.


242 posted on 09/18/2012 4:05:08 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil; mickie; flaglady47
I don't think the Obama administration can sequester and forever lock away public record autopsies paid for by taxpayers.

Of course, if challenged, it can declare the autopsies highly classified and bury them that way. This would look suspicious, of course.

The matter of autopsy revelation could also go to court if a Freedom of Information-type organization files a law suit demanding release.

One or more of the individual families can also demand the results be revealed if they have animosity toward the administration/State Department, etal for inadequate pre-protection for the victims, for instance.

So, autopsy reports can come up in court under various types of circumstances and for various reasons.

Also, if motivated in some way, like hatred for Obama, for instance, family members can leak certain facts from the autopsies. Of course, they will have lawyers advising them what to do and not do....but I don't discount this happening in some fashion at all.

All in all, I predict the autopsies will become the objects of contention later on in ways we haven't even thought of yet.

Leni

243 posted on 09/18/2012 4:35:42 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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