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Romney: 47 percent depend on government, will vote for Obama
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Posted on 09/17/2012 5:01:13 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver

The Left has been trying to transform sloth and stupidity into a virtue for the past 80 years through the media and education system, and now we may be past the point of no return.
This is exactly what 0bama meant by the transformation of society.
America usually means three things to people: the place, the people, and the idea. The idea, limited Constitutional government and capitalism, is being destroyed by the people led by a despot and ideologue. America will become a horrible place not just because of 0bama, but primarily because of its people. If 0bama is re-elected, it will confirm that its people, in the aggregate, have become the enemies of freedom. As a wealthy German Jew and large department store owner lamented in the 1930s before emigrating to Palestine, to paraphrase, “Germany and the German people have now become my enemies, and I am ashamed to have considered myself a German.”


61 posted on 09/17/2012 6:13:39 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: VanDeKoik; Fawn
YOU think that the discussion we have had here for YEARS about the number of people mooching off the government actually involved people in the military and people collecting SS money they paid?!?!?!

That was the gaffe, he did not remove them from the 47%, he included them, Mitt made a huge mistake.

62 posted on 09/17/2012 6:15:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Retirees who paid in expect to get a return. I pay in and I expect to see it when I retire and that my dear is not mooching. So don’t include them in the gimme class.


63 posted on 09/17/2012 6:16:02 PM PDT by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: VanDeKoik

You are missing the point.

Romney didn’t say, “I’m talking about what FReepers have been rightly railing about for years and years,” he said, “47% depend on the government and are a lost voting cause” to a roomful of millionaires. That’s not going to play well over the next 7 weeks.

The figure 47% is made up of those retirees and military people and whatnot. It’s made up of lots and lots of people who are hard working conservative families who simply don’t make enough to pay income tax. THAT’S why it’s a stupid statement.

Do you think 47% of people in this country collect welfare or something?


64 posted on 09/17/2012 6:16:02 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: Sub-Driver

What am I supposed to do with this? Rule number 17. You never write off a single vote. Let me see 47% pay no taxes, 50% of the top 10% (5%)who do pay taxes are die-hard liberals. Somewhere in there we have over 10 million union members who do pay taxes. 47 and 5 and say 4 is 56%. This is insane but you never know. Maybe the 53% will figure it out.


65 posted on 09/17/2012 6:19:33 PM PDT by Dave Mellon
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To: Steelfish

Well, I’m currently a state employee, was previously a civilian Federal employee (the VA) and I was and still am not for Obumma. I cried when he was elected because I felt the beginning of the end as we know it was near. I read the article released on Bloomberg and the first thing I picked up was Romney didn’t say anything about the low and middle-class being under taxed, he said there are 47% of people who do not pay tax. The comments in the article to me were cherry-picked as much as I can tell.


66 posted on 09/17/2012 6:19:47 PM PDT by Bride Of Old Sarge (I'm sweet and innocent...just ask my birds...and my cats....and my dog....just don't ask my kids....)
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To: justlurking

I listened to the audio. Please add the context that will clear this up because I must have missed it.


67 posted on 09/17/2012 6:20:06 PM PDT by Dave Mellon
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To: SoFloFreeper

You are right and that is why this news item will hurt unless Romney does something truly magical—like offer us some long overdue vision of an economic miracle that will change the numbers. Something Reaganesque.


68 posted on 09/17/2012 6:20:17 PM PDT by Dave Mellon
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To: VanDeKoik

Drudge headline says “Romney gets real:”

Real what?


69 posted on 09/17/2012 6:20:23 PM PDT by Dave Mellon
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To: linn37

My dear, I am the one under siege for defending your view, not attacking it.


70 posted on 09/17/2012 6:21:01 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: VanDeKoik
You know that the news media will spin this way out of control. That is my concern. The timing could not be much worse. Instead of the headlines focusing in on the world turning against Obama it will now focus on Romney.

Romney needs a response that works. Something that the media cannot spin.

71 posted on 09/17/2012 6:21:34 PM PDT by Dave Mellon
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To: Dave Mellon

Actually saying what most people have for years, and haven’t heard a candidate say it in decades.


72 posted on 09/17/2012 6:22:28 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

One more thing that I see is now happening online and soon to be on TV (Just read this comment on local site):

“Someone tell Romney about the FICA, sales, gas, and local taxes EVERYONE pays. I know Mitt doesn’t know much about tax returns.”

Har har. It pains me to say it, but this is a meme that will be hard to deflect going forward. The ol’ “out of touch” thing. Again.


73 posted on 09/17/2012 6:25:45 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: databoss

What?


74 posted on 09/17/2012 6:26:30 PM PDT by DWC (historian)
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To: whattajoke

Military retireess do not depend on government. It’s the other way around.

One doesn’t spend 20 plus years in the military with government depending on them and come out with a sense of neediness.

If they don’t work, it’s because they can’t, not because they choose to take from taxpayers.

And they are not looking for handouts nor to sell their votes to Obama.

Mitt surely takes this into account, and does not include them.

Mitt’s talking about people whose votes are for sale to those who will give them stuff and who don’t care about the health or the future of the country and who wouldn’t understand austerity if they were overrun.

the military retirees are on the opposite end of that spectrum if they are even in the same universe.


75 posted on 09/17/2012 6:31:44 PM PDT by stanne
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To: NoobRep

He should follow up by saying that if they do continue to vote for BO and dems, then their freebies will run out in a very short time because the dead economy can’t support their free ride so they better think about that before they pull the lever for BO.


76 posted on 09/17/2012 6:32:45 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Sub-Driver

The posts to this thread have assured me the end is near for the USA. Half of you clearly do not see the unsustainability of out of control government spending. I feel like I might as well pack it in for the future of this nation.


77 posted on 09/17/2012 6:35:07 PM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: dandiegirl

There ya go.

he’ll need to get used to the media spin real quick, expecially if he gets in.

He’ll have to learn to ignore them “I can’t hear you!” for a start, then find hos own niche.

They’re going to hate him worse than they did Bush. He’ll need to realize we don’t care hwo he is spun.


78 posted on 09/17/2012 6:38:21 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I know how to spell especially.


79 posted on 09/17/2012 6:39:11 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.

But that doesn’t matter.


80 posted on 09/17/2012 6:39:31 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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