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Live Thread: Romney to Speak to Press Tonight About '47% Video' Comments
Monday, September 17, 2012 | Kristinn

Posted on 09/17/2012 7:09:29 PM PDT by kristinn

Political reporters on Twitter are saying they are standing by for a Romney media availability on the video released today by Mother Jones of Romney at a May fundraiser speaking frankly of his thoughts on Obama's base voters and their entitlement mentality, aka the 47% who pay no federal income taxes.

The media and GOP-E have jumped ugly on Romney tonight.

Steve Holland, Reuters: Romney at press avail to respond to video says his comments weren't "elegantly stated," and "could have said it in a more effective way."


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 47percent; campaignsuicide; enemedia; motherjones; obama; outoftouch; romney; romney4obama; romneycampaign; toast
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To: Girlene

Nope. The 47%ers that would vote for Mitt want out of the dependency game. They hate it. They’re using it in the way it was intended, or as it was sold- temporary assistance.


151 posted on 09/17/2012 7:46:36 PM PDT by stanne
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To: concerned about politics

Are you kidding? Oboma has trashed the economy, put us into a debt we’ll never be able to pay, divided America like no other president ever has, the friggen bloodthirsty Islamists are on a rampage in the middle east. and Israel is just biding time.

You’re worried about an old, and truthful, video clip?


And the media will ignore the economy, the middle east, Israel, and focus like a laser on that old video clip.


152 posted on 09/17/2012 7:46:47 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: muawiyah
You are a liberal.
Find another Blog or try to make a conservative point!

Romney is right in this fight.

153 posted on 09/17/2012 7:46:49 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Sarah Barracuda

This is important. If Mitt can successfully pivot this to economic ideology, he can present a choice to the American people that we will win. If Mitt can get the message across that he believes in the dignity of a paycheck over a welfare check, and that Obama is a European style leader offering presents he can’t afford in exchange for votes, he will win the debates for sure.

You see, there is already a socialist narrative surrounding Obama. He appointed a communist, was mentored by communists, he’s nationalized healthcare, more people are on food stamps thanks to him etc..
Dick Morris is right in his analysis that feeding into narratives that already exist can be devastating. Unfortunately, it works both ways, and this can be used by Obama to push the “Mitt is a rich guy who doesn’t understand everyday struggles” BS. Romney has to get better at delivering his message. He has to start getting tough, and letting loose with the cash in swing states.

The Democrats have successfully made this election a choice, not a referendum on zero. We can still win on this playing field, as long as the choice is worded in the way we want it

Socialism vs. capitalism.


154 posted on 09/17/2012 7:47:18 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: LUV W

because they all belong to the spineless party.


155 posted on 09/17/2012 7:47:23 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: VanDeKoik
Oh please. If anyone should be checking their girly underwear it’s those morons that are tying to spin that he is talking about people in the military, military retirees or people collecting the SS money they paid in.

Ignore cripple. He just hates Romney and will say anything to tear Mitt down. He's not even casting a serious ballot for President this year. Plans to flush his vote down the crapper on some 3rd party nobody.

156 posted on 09/17/2012 7:47:32 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Miss Didi

I agree. Weird camera angle.


157 posted on 09/17/2012 7:47:43 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: chessplayer

Many seniors pay income taxes. You don’t have to have that much income to pass the threshold after which your SS payments are taxable.


158 posted on 09/17/2012 7:47:43 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: Texas4ever

You began the interaction by calling me a troll ~


159 posted on 09/17/2012 7:48:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: StarFan

The “bitter clingers” comment was brought up on the Greta panel, too...it was pointed out that Hillary used that against Barry in the primaries.


160 posted on 09/17/2012 7:48:47 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: ez
I think they put this out now because Obama was starting to get killed on the Middle East demonstrations.

Mitt spoke to a Hispanic interest group today, and I'm guessing his speech left a mark, hence the pre-arranged "leak".

161 posted on 09/17/2012 7:48:47 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Speak Up, Mitt!)
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To: ncalburt

You know Axelrod an awful lot better than I do. Is it bent?


162 posted on 09/17/2012 7:49:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kansas58

They will try to spin this as Romney denigrating the people who either actually earned a gov’t pension or actually need it.

No one’s gonna buy it. Everyone knows whom he is talking about. They might try for the “racist” angle, but that would be actually racist in and of itself.


163 posted on 09/17/2012 7:49:49 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Bryanw92
This was the bravest thing said by a GOP Presidential candidate since 1984.

a lot of people probably agree with you.... thanks for a very good post.

164 posted on 09/17/2012 7:50:22 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: concerned about politics

So my 84 year old mother, whose income is 17K a year should pay more taxes? Really????


165 posted on 09/17/2012 7:50:44 PM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: muawiyah
makes you a Democrat lackey.

And you began 'the interaction' by calling me a democrat lackey, troll.

166 posted on 09/17/2012 7:51:19 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: TonyInOhio

All the man has to do is ask...

“What’s your choice? Vote for me, get/hold a job when I turn the economy around and pay taxes or sit and be an able bodied burden on the system? Let your pride in yourself determine your vote.”

Instant win.


167 posted on 09/17/2012 7:51:38 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Miss Didi
I noticed it, too...I think it’s just a bad camera angle and not very close up

I thought I was seeing things..I even looked away and looked back, and yep...Something was different IMO. Could have been the angle?...Dunno

168 posted on 09/17/2012 7:51:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: epluribus_2

Be careful about what is “disabled” these days too. There’s lots of people with stress-related disabilities. Most of those are just people with minor problems who could have been helped but the gummint would rather call them disabled than risk adding them to the unemployment rolls. Stress-related disability is becoming a common way to keep the gravy train running after the unemployment runs out.


169 posted on 09/17/2012 7:51:43 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: chessplayer

“But his statement makes it look like they are nothing but lazy leeches. “

==

I’m a senior on S.S. and Medicare and it never occurred to me that Romney was talking about people like me.


170 posted on 09/17/2012 7:51:55 PM PDT by Mears
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To: kristinn

The Press really think they are running the show ...

I have many more than one Vote ... I am voting every day with what I do on a daily basis... they may only count the one I cast in November but me and millions more like me still vote every day.

TT


171 posted on 09/17/2012 7:51:55 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The media has been as biased or more so in the past, the republicans who overcome it do so by force of personality.

Reagan, imho, did it with two odd incidents. The “I’m paying for this microphone!”outburst, and when a black guy in Harlem argued with Reagan, Reagan told him off. Oddly, the people and media liked both.

Romney does well enough in his words, he attacks Obama a lot, but he is mild mannered. I don’t mean weak I think he’s tough, but his manner is very polite. Very presidential, really. But will it work?


172 posted on 09/17/2012 7:52:22 PM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: ez

[ I think they put this out now because Obama was starting to get killed on the Middle East demonstrations. ]

Totally agree.


173 posted on 09/17/2012 7:52:26 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: muawiyah
why are bringing up tax rates now ???

Mitt comments were about govt dependence .

174 posted on 09/17/2012 7:52:33 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Mears

And of course, he isn’t.


175 posted on 09/17/2012 7:52:46 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Cu Roi
You earn $30 million in capital gains they want to know more than your 1040 will accommodate ~ plus it's written up in a different section of the law.

The constitution was amended to authorize income taxes ~ from any source ~ but for most of my life there's been an invidious differentiation between wages earned by the poor and dividends accepted by the rich ~ mostly for the purpose of defeating the effect of the personal income tax rates on the rich.

Time to end the class war!

176 posted on 09/17/2012 7:52:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

why are you bringing up tax rates now ???

Mitt comments were about govt dependence .


177 posted on 09/17/2012 7:52:57 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: Mears

Nope, everyone knows whom he’s talking about.
And it’s not those who earned it or truly need it.


178 posted on 09/17/2012 7:53:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Mears

He wasn’t.


179 posted on 09/17/2012 7:53:05 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: kristinn; DarthVader
Romney could seal the deal with this one...stand strong for what he meant and stand tough against the little media propaganda tools.

without knowing it, the dopes have handed Romney a golden opportunity

180 posted on 09/17/2012 7:53:41 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: gotribe

So if she is living off of SS checks, she is getting every dime she paid in, that was then spent by the government on other stuff, and therefore being paid back with money from younger worker’s checks, which we will never see.

Romney was not talking about her, nor demanding she pay more taxes.

Nice try, though.


181 posted on 09/17/2012 7:53:59 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

I collect S.S. and never thought he was referring to me. Anybody with a grain of sense knows who he was talking about.


182 posted on 09/17/2012 7:54:13 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: gotribe

What????


183 posted on 09/17/2012 7:54:28 PM PDT by Bubbette
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To: MrB; Mears

That’s right; everyone knows exactly the type of people he’s talking about. Leeches.


184 posted on 09/17/2012 7:54:33 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: kingattax

Unfortunately, the dopes also know how to keep lying and harping until people begin to believe them. From what I hear tonight, though, Mitt did well. GOOD!


185 posted on 09/17/2012 7:54:44 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: ncalburt
Mitt's comments about the 47% were, as you know very well, about TAX RATES ~ some people do not pay federal personal income tax because they don't earn enough to be taxed so their rate is 0%.

There is no other issue. Those people who don't pay federal personal income taxes didn't chose to receive incomes low enough that they didn't have to pay!

186 posted on 09/17/2012 7:54:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WVNan

Small correction: You are getting back what was earlier paid in to the system.


187 posted on 09/17/2012 7:55:53 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: kristinn; All

The broker, Jimmy Carter’s grandson is quoted as saying this: “I’ve been trying to get paid for this but it hasn’t worked out yet,” he told New York magazine. “This might help.”

Now why would a good, socialist-Democrat want to get paid? lol


188 posted on 09/17/2012 7:56:01 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Mears

“I’m a senior on S.S. and Medicare and it never occurred to me that Romney was talking about people like me.”

Course not! You actually have common sense.

Those guys running with that line are really just ABRs and DU trolls looking for some angle to piggyback on the MSMs BS.


189 posted on 09/17/2012 7:56:23 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Mears

People who do what they can with their resources and love this country - and do what is right for it- know he is not talking about them.


190 posted on 09/17/2012 7:56:23 PM PDT by stanne
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To: ncalburt; muawiyah

muawiyah/cliff is a retired postal employee. He has his issues.


191 posted on 09/17/2012 7:56:44 PM PDT by narses
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To: kristinn
Hmmnmm....

"clinging to guns and religion..."

vs.

"47%"

Bring it!

192 posted on 09/17/2012 7:57:25 PM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your own eyes!)
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To: BlueStateRightist; DarthVader
No matter what you feel about his comments on that video this situation is NOT good.

come on.....stop with the handwringing for pete's sake.

193 posted on 09/17/2012 7:57:46 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: muawiyah

Huh?
You are the one who does not understand the system, not Romney.


194 posted on 09/17/2012 7:58:03 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: WVNan
The 47% number arises out of application of the federal personal income tax ~ and does not mean those people paid NO TAXES. I'd go so far as to suggest that anyone who believes it does should be institutionalized before they hurt themselves or others. It's just a bizarre belief that you can actually escape all taxation in this country ~

~ Now if you want to believe that Mitt knows differently ........................ that would not be a good idea to bandy it about eh!

195 posted on 09/17/2012 7:58:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: narses

obviously


196 posted on 09/17/2012 7:58:49 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Viennacon

GOOD. He shouldn’t. What he said was true.


197 posted on 09/17/2012 7:58:57 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: muawiyah
Mitt's comments about the 47% were, as you know very well, about TAX RATES ~ some people do not pay federal personal income tax because they don't earn enough to be taxed so their rate is 0%.

Correct and why his comments were not very well thought out, according to the audio/video.

198 posted on 09/17/2012 7:59:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nicmarlo

But another Freeper made a good point. You can’t just write off 47% of the population. Then you assume you’ve got the other 53% and Romney doesn’t. He needs some of those 47% and can win some but not if they feel insulted.

The saving grace is going to be that many, if not most, of those 47% don’t believe he was talking about them. Most people truly want to contribute and do better. They don’t like handouts and will view Romney’s comments as directed to others and not them.


199 posted on 09/17/2012 7:59:40 PM PDT by paul544
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To: kristinn

So, it was at a May fundraiser...but Mother Jones doesn’t release it until a month and a half before the election, right when Obama’s bounce is starting to fade?

Ah-huh. Nothing suspicious about that...


200 posted on 09/17/2012 7:59:40 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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