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Wal-Mart to drop Amazon Kindle products, report says
Washington Post ^ | 09/20/2012 | By Hayley Tsukayama

Posted on 09/20/2012 11:02:07 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Wal-Mart is reportedly planning to stop sales of Amazon Kindle products in its stores, Reuters reported, apart from its existing inventory and pending orders.

According to Reuters, the decision was outlined in a memo obtained by the wire service that said the change is in line with the company’s merchandising strategy. It follows a similar decision from retailer Target, which announced in May that it would no longer sell Kindle devices.

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While Wal-Mart is the world’s largest retailer, it competes fiercely with Amazon, which is ambitiously expanding the number of goods and services that it delivers straight to its customers — often through devices such as the Kindle e-reader and the Kindle Fire tablet. Amazon could not be immediately reached for comment.

Retailers have been particularly critical of the online marketplace and its contribution to the trend of “showrooming.” They complain that customers often come into their brick-and-mortar stores to see or try out products that they’re interested in buying, only to leave and purchase the goods online, where prices often do not include sales taxes.

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KEYWORDS: amazon; ecommerce; kindle; retail; walmart
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"Showrooming" I like that.

And as far as sales taxes? California just started charging sales tax. Texas began a few months ago. Many states are getting on this gravy train.

I suspect Amazon is not willing to sell Wal-Mart the Kindle for the bulk price Wal-Mart is willing to buy them for. And that makes all the difference here.

1 posted on 09/20/2012 11:02:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Booksellers tell me that people come into their stores, see a book they like, and right there order from Amazon.


2 posted on 09/20/2012 11:05:21 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Time to consider a cover charge for entering bookstores...


3 posted on 09/20/2012 11:08:03 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (ObamaCare is an assault on the unborn, infirmed and elderly. GOP, repeat this as necessary...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

http://resistance.ning.com/profiles/blogs/time-to-put-a-big-dent-in-amazon-s-earnings


4 posted on 09/20/2012 11:09:19 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Responsibility2nd

As a side note, the Kindle Touch is freakin’ awesome.


5 posted on 09/20/2012 11:10:07 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My nearest Walmart displays its Kindle offerings by showing a framed black-and-white print of a cell-phoneish photo of a Kindle displaying a “the battery is dead, please recharge” message. I’d say it’s a fluke but that goes for several models of Kindle.

Someone’s not taking product promotion seriously. No surprise it will be dumped.


6 posted on 09/20/2012 11:10:39 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: LS
Booksellers tell me that people come into their stores, see a book they like, and right there order from Amazon.

With the sales tax now applied to onlne sales, customers now have to pay the tax plus the shipping and have to wait for the item to be delivered, which puts Internet sellers at a disadvantage.

7 posted on 09/20/2012 11:11:45 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Borders had a "showrooming" problem. Huge inventory of printed books. Lots of slobs laying about the store sipping lattes, using free wi-fi, reading the paper books or previewing the paper copy and comparing the Amazon price on a smart phone. Borders offered 25% to 50% off coupons. The coupons weren't title specific. I would often find fairly expensive technical titles with little Amazon discount, but stocked on the Borders shelf. My shelves are lined with many books in that category.

California has always expected the internet buyer to pay "use" tax for items that were not assessed tax by the internet seller. What has happened now is that Amazon will assess the tax and probably raise prices to everyone for the overhead this extra "service" entails. CA sales taxes vary with different state, county and city rates. It requires regular maintenance of the tax rate database to correctly calculate the value, then the additional overhead of forwarding the tax collected to the Franchise Tax Board in CA. We all lose as a consequence of caving in to the CA demands.

8 posted on 09/20/2012 11:12:59 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

I can’t imagine showrooming in a book store. Best Buy, of course. Anything electronic come from Newegg. Boots, camping stuff comes from Campmor.


9 posted on 09/20/2012 11:17:42 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In other news...

Walmart has announced the introduction of its own Kindle-like device.

It will be called the WalPad and will be available by Christmas at the introductory price of $7.88.


10 posted on 09/20/2012 11:23:48 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Myrddin

I miss those coupons. I buy a lot of books so I saved hundreds of dollars a year with them. Now I buy most of my books via Amazon Prime or eBay.


11 posted on 09/20/2012 11:27:14 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: AppyPappy
I can’t imagine showrooming in a book store.

It's not that hard. A new book appears on the shelf at the book store. Cool. Thumb through it and decide whether it's a keeper or not interested. Need it now? Go to the checkout counter. Want it, but can wait...compare Amazon. If Amazon has a better price, add it to the "wish list". Really want it now, but the list price at the bookstore is awful compared to Amazon's discount...buy from Amazon on your smart phone. It really comes down to urgency and affordability. Sometimes I just "wish list" the title, then buy an e-book instead of the paper. The e-book is lighter, faster to acquire, has free updates for errata and I use my home address in Idaho for the purchase...even if I'm standing in San Diego. My Idaho "use tax" is 6%. Lower than CA "sales" tax.

12 posted on 09/20/2012 11:31:15 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Fiji Hill

Amazon is opening two huge distribution centers South of Richmond, VA. I’m told their long term goal is next-day delivery for the major portion of their markets and SAME-day delivery if you’re willing to pay a small fee. If there’s a substantial difference in price I expect folks will go to Amazon.


13 posted on 09/20/2012 11:32:17 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: moovova

And it comes with pajama pants and house-shoes.. (so you can feel like you are actually at Wal mart)


14 posted on 09/20/2012 11:32:40 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: Vision

I have a Touch. I have read more books in the past 5 months than during any other 12 months in my life. I get free $25 Amazon gift cards thru my bank, and I simply download on free wifi and I’m on my way. I love Kindle.


15 posted on 09/20/2012 11:39:35 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Target was mad not just because Amazon sold similar products on their website, but because Amazon has apps that they were running commercials for showing people HOW to “showroom”.

Can’t blame Walmart and Target for this one.


16 posted on 09/20/2012 11:40:04 AM PDT by pie_eater
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To: thefactor

Probably a little off-topic, but what do you all think of the new, bigger Kindle Fire? Especially vs. iPad?


17 posted on 09/20/2012 11:41:01 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: pnz1
The reason I got the Touch is because the text is electronic ink. It's not a computer-like screen that fatigues the eyes. The Fire is a computer screen like the iPad.

Additionally, I got the Kindle to read, not surf the web. I do plenty of that. So I didn't want the temptation of other games and such. Just wanted to read.

I have heard nothing but good things about the Fire, however. But in all honesty, I'm a Mac guy. If I was in the market for a tablet, iPad would be my first choice. I would look at the Fire though.

18 posted on 09/20/2012 11:48:21 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Fiji Hill
With the sales tax now applied to onlne sales, customers now have to pay the tax plus the shipping and have to wait for the item to be delivered, which puts Internet sellers at a disadvantage.

If it arrives damaged, then there's more hassle. No thanks, I'd rather go to a brick and mortar and hold the actual product.

19 posted on 09/20/2012 11:48:28 AM PDT by bgill
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To: AppyPappy; Myrddin
I can’t imagine showrooming in a book store. Best Buy, of course. Anything electronic come from Newegg. Boots, camping stuff comes from Campmor.

I've been a loyal Newegg customer since they started, however lately Amazon is giving them a run for their money even on computer parts and electronics. Last week my faithful Canon MP830 AIO printer died and I needed a replacement ASAP.

Newegg and Amazon were priced comparably, but with Amazon Prime I ordered a Canon MX892 at 9:00pm on Thursday evening and with their $3.99 Prime overnight shipping it was delivered at 11:00am Friday morning. No one else can touch that level of service.

20 posted on 09/20/2012 11:50:41 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: bgill
If it arrives damaged, then there's more hassle. No thanks, I'd rather go to a brick and mortar and hold the actual product.

Last time I ordered a book from Amazon, they sent the wrong one. I sent it back, but still haven't received the one I ordered. At a brick-and-mortar store, that wouldn't have happened.

Sadly, brick-and-mortar bookstores are becoming scarce.

21 posted on 09/20/2012 12:04:40 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: ctdonath2

They do that a lot. It’s no fluke. Half the cameras on display aren’t charged either.


22 posted on 09/20/2012 12:13:24 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Not just that the Kindles aren’t charged, it’s that there are no Kindles on display - just lousy B&W photos of them.

Like if the cameras on display were just photos of them (and showing “low battery” indicators at that).


23 posted on 09/20/2012 12:15:33 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: pnz1

The Fire HD is a great device, but it’s an Amazon device. It’s never going to really compete with the iPad or a full fledged Android tablet like the Galaxy series. These new budget tablets are in the end, budget tablets.


24 posted on 09/20/2012 12:18:11 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The nook line is so vastly superior, it isn’t surprising.


25 posted on 09/20/2012 12:23:09 PM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: thefactor
Have a Touch also. Love it! lost interest in reading about 10 years ago with the onset of undiagnosed apnea and eyes getting worse. Now with apnea under control and a cataract removed I'm back to reading using my Kindle Touch. Also a prime member and love the advantages of that.

Reread all my Clancy favorites plus caught myself up to date with his newer tales. Now going to reread Vince Flynn and catch up with him.

26 posted on 09/20/2012 12:25:26 PM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: LS
Booksellers tell me that people come into their stores, see a book they like, and right there order from Amazon.

You know what? That right there is the embodiment of the free enterprise system. ." Someone, i.e. Amazon, has found a way to make a living by selling things cheaper. If bookstores can figure out a way to beat Amazon's deals, they are free to do so. That is what has made America great. Having said that, I have cut back on my Amazon orders due to their support for gay marriage because I am free to do so. Competition is good. Freedom is good. Free Enterprise is good. I'm sure that if there were no way to order products online, books and such would be much more expensive in stores.

27 posted on 09/20/2012 12:27:42 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
When a brick-and-motar store charges $50 for something that can be bought online for $25, they are either trying for too much margin, or don't know where to buy their stock.
28 posted on 09/20/2012 12:27:42 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Quit poking holes in the life raft!)
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To: Wilum

Without Remorse is my 2nd favorite book. Ender’s Game being my favorite.


29 posted on 09/20/2012 12:31:08 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: LS

Been there. Done that. Cannot remember the last book I purchased from B&N. Significantly more expensive than Amazon.


30 posted on 09/20/2012 12:31:41 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Fiji Hill

And yet bricks & motor book stores (to say nothing of video stores) are going broke. Borders is now “Boarded Up”.


31 posted on 09/20/2012 12:35:15 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

motor => motar


32 posted on 09/20/2012 12:36:07 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: thefactor
Agreed, yea, hard to comprehend how powerful it is. The little things are wonderful too, footnotes, buying, text to speech...The tv only does on when something great is on.

What's some of your best reads?
33 posted on 09/20/2012 12:36:31 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: LS

I buy books on my kindle/iPad. The reason is not that I can’t or won’t go to the bookstore. It is because I can change the type at will. I find that easier to read. It is really that simple. It has nothing to do with delivery, the bookstore, or taxes.


34 posted on 09/20/2012 12:36:31 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am NOT from Vermont. I am from MA. And I don't support Romney. Please read before "assuming.")
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To: Niteranger68
When a brick-and-motar store charges $50 for something that can be bought online for $25, they are either trying for too much margin, or don't know where to buy their stock.

It's neither. The vast differences in operating expenses and purchasing power account for the differences in price. The problem is with those who showcase items before purchasing. This is the consumer that will cry to high heaven when he can't personally inspect product before buying online, when the online retailers run the brick and mortar stores out of business.

If you want to buy online, fine. I buy a lot online myself. However, if I go to Best Buy and eat up an hour of the sales guy's time, I recognize that as a service, and I'll buy the product there if I want it. Sadly many don't grasp that.

35 posted on 09/20/2012 12:37:15 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: pnz1

The Fire and iPad are too big and don’t get lost in your hands IMO. The Touch is perfect.


36 posted on 09/20/2012 12:39:12 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
motor => motar

You're getting closer, keep trying.

37 posted on 09/20/2012 12:40:09 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: thefactor
Have to agree with you on Without Remorse. Great book. My favorite was Clear and Present Danger when, I believe Clark and Ding were introduced. But I was really disappointed with the movie except the actors they chose for the before mentioned. They fit the characters pretty close to what I imagined. Every time I see TV’s The Closer, now Major Crimes, I still picture Raymond Cruz as Ding.
38 posted on 09/20/2012 12:42:18 PM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Vision

There is something to be said for that. I bought a new 10.1” tablet that’s only slightly larger than the iPad, and my wife took over my old 7” tablet. She’s completely abandoned her Ipad for it, and I still miss it. I see a Google Nexus 7 in my future for that reason.


39 posted on 09/20/2012 12:43:36 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Fiji Hill

“Last time I ordered a book from Amazon, they sent the wrong one. I sent it back, but still haven’t received the one I ordered. At a brick-and-mortar store, that wouldn’t have happened.”

After 15 years and literally hundreds of books and movies, Amazon finally screwed up an order. It took a little emailing and website navigating but UPS picked up the return package for free and Amazon credited my account. To get what I ordered from a brick-and-mortar store I would have had to chase my tail all over town.


40 posted on 09/20/2012 12:59:19 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Vision
For my favorite books, see post #29.

As far as what I have read on my Kindle since May, titles include: Freakonomics, Water for Elephants, Outlaw Platoon, Killing Lincoln, the Biography of Antonin Scalia, The Hunger Games trilogy, The Unforgiving Minute, and False Negative (a crime novel written by a family friend, Joe Koenig).

I'm now reading Clockers by Richard Price and Atlas Shrugged is on deck.

41 posted on 09/20/2012 1:00:57 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor

I have a Kindle Fire and I love it. I can watch movies or read a book, magazine in full color. You can check your email, browse the internet and post on FR like I’m doing right now. It’s easy to use. The downsides, you can’t stream video to your TV with it. You have to buy your ebooks and video content through Amazon. For the price, it’s a good choice.


42 posted on 09/20/2012 1:06:10 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Responsibility2nd

I wouldn’t think of going to Walmart for a Kindle when I can just make a few clicks on my computer and have one at my house in 1 or 2 days.

In our house, we have 5 Kindles (of various models) and a Kindle Fire that I bought for myself when it first came out. Today I ordered the new Kindle Fire HD for delivery tomorrow.

We also have an iPad 2 and an iPad 3. For my uses, I prefer the Kindle Fire - I’m very much an Amazon-centric person. When I use a computer, I want one with two monitors and lots of hard drives. For me, an iPad just doesn’t do anything I need more than a Kindle Fire.

But again, I can’t imagine why anyone would buy a Kindle from any place other than Amazon.


43 posted on 09/20/2012 1:15:43 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: virgil
The downsides, you can’t stream video to your TV with it.

You can with the new Kindle Fire HD. It has a mini-hdmi port. An iPad can't do that.

44 posted on 09/20/2012 1:18:05 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: lwoodham

Hey, doesn’t bother me. We get 5% more royalty per book on an e-book than on a paper/hardcover!


45 posted on 09/20/2012 1:42:25 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: virgil
I have a Kindle Fire and I love it. I can watch movies or read a book, magazine in full color. You can check your email, browse the internet and post on FR like I’m doing right now. It’s easy to use. The downsides, you can’t stream video to your TV with it. You have to buy your ebooks and video content through Amazon. For the price, it’s a good choice.

Yep, that's the downside right there, you're limited to Amazon. I've come to think it's just a matter of consumer education. I have many, many friends with the Kindle Fire, and I've found that none of them realize that with a standard Android tablet, you can buy and read Kindle ebooks, Nookbooks, Google books, to name the three largest. I have access to everything save iBooks.

Which brings to my big Apple gripe. iPad has Kindle and Nook support as well, but no purchasing within the apps. It's severely crippled.

46 posted on 09/20/2012 1:47:33 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

more tar


47 posted on 09/20/2012 2:38:25 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

I didn’t know there’s a new KF out that will do that. Gotta get one. Maybe at Christmas.


48 posted on 09/20/2012 3:53:56 PM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

The kindle fire hd has a mini hdmi socket so you hook it up directly to your TV for playing movies. I have a Fire . Now I have to hook up my laptop to TV to watch the streaming video TV/movies. i’M going to buy a 7” Fire Hd after Christmas . I’ll wait a few months for them to patch the bugs. The iPad is too big for comfortable use IMHO .


49 posted on 09/20/2012 6:17:07 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Melas

You can load books available from such places as guttenburg.org and many videos on to the kindle fire via USB cable. Piece of cake


50 posted on 09/20/2012 6:48:23 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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